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WhydIgetBackoff
WhydIgetBackoff
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May 12th, 2022 at 6:12:51 AM permalink
Quote: kewlj

I skimmed the last pages DarkOz. I don't want to hijack this thread of this particular person's incident, but there are a handful of casinos that are to be avoided by AP at all costs. These casinos have the mentality that they are at war with AP's and will spend $1 to save a nickel in thwarting AP play. Some of the worse offenders in my universe of casinos that I play regularly or played regularly are Valley Forge and Cosmopolitan here in Vegas. South Point just behind them. .

Now understand I am not talking about a casino that sweats action, or is known as sweaty in blackjack circles. I am talking about a mentality that they are at war with AP's, and will spend way more money fighting AP's than they are saving. These casinos always have some sort of bean counter high up that is convinced advantage players are effecting their bottom line much, much more than they are.

However, all that said, I am not aware of Rio being in that category.
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Got more info on where I can find the list of "at war with AP to the point of self harm" Casinos?

Side thought, if they hated APs that much they can just switch to cunt shufflers like entire europe does, right? I don't understand why it's different between USA and europe, not saying one is better than the other, I don't know enough to say. Just weird it's like that.
Dieter
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May 12th, 2022 at 7:30:23 AM permalink
*ahem*
Keep it polite. Consider this a warning for profanity.
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ThatDonGuy
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May 12th, 2022 at 8:07:51 AM permalink
Quote: Dieter

*ahem*
Keep it polite. Consider this a warning for profanity.
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You might want to explain just what the problem is - assuming it was the choice of word for a CSM.
Joeman
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May 12th, 2022 at 8:17:16 AM permalink
I just assumed it was an abbreviation of the word "continuous" with a typo. Although maybe OP really does hate those European #!@$^ shufflers! ;)
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Dieter
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May 12th, 2022 at 8:55:13 AM permalink
Quote: ThatDonGuy

Quote: Dieter

*ahem*
Keep it polite. Consider this a warning for profanity.
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You might want to explain just what the problem is - assuming it was the choice of word for a CSM.
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I'm assuming it was a benign typo for CSM.
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billryan
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May 12th, 2022 at 10:21:22 AM permalink
I blame auto-correct. And society, of course.
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unJon
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May 12th, 2022 at 10:28:52 AM permalink
I am currently at a strip casino. I am on the wifi right now, in my hotel room, on this website.

I’ll let this thread know if I get backed off the blackjack table later.
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rsactuary
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May 12th, 2022 at 11:15:28 AM permalink
That did make me chuckle though.
BillHasRetired
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May 12th, 2022 at 11:20:36 PM permalink
In my former life, I did internet monitoring for the company. It was the early days and the technology was not very sophisticated. Still we put a couple of kiddie porn folks in jail, rescued an employee who had suffered a mental break and was 'lost', lots of stories. By the time I left, the tech was super sophisticated and the following scenario can happen, completely automatically:
1. Gambler checks in, gets a room, player card is associated with that room (either for comps, or reward credits for spending money on the room)
2. Gambler gets on wifi, surfs a lot of sites.
3. Surfing touches on AP sites. Monitoring software recognizes this, generates an alert.
4. Alert either gets a human in the loop, or more likely, just automatically creates a diary entry on the player's card account that says "Possible AP"
5. Takes some time for the pit boss/supervisor to notice the diary entry, or maybe they just wanted to watch gambler for signs of AP.
6. Backoff occurs.

No 'invasion of privacy'--the automation did everything from monitoring to the diary entry. Besides, the casino has a perfectly reasonable excuse to employ monitoring--like kiddie porn--to justify installing the monitoring. Besides, the ToS probably notes that monitoring will happen, so you've got no recourse.

Just always assume they're watching you...or tether off your phone....or get a mobile hot spot.
BleedingChipsSlowly
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May 13th, 2022 at 1:57:27 AM permalink
Excellent VPN service can be used on your cell phone and computer for less than US$3/month. Assuming your DNS lookups are done over the VPN connection (very important), the WiFi or Ethernet provider has limited information about your activity. They know when and for how long you connected to VPN service, plus the volume of data sent and received. They do not know which sites you visited. The data is encrypted. They might guess correctly, based on the data transfer rate, that you are streaming video. The will not know whether you are visiting a naughty site, watching a Game of Thrones episode, or viewing a sporting event. Cheap peace of mind. Especially if your are working with your finances on a public service.
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