unJon
unJon
Joined: Jul 1, 2018
  • Threads: 14
  • Posts: 2864
Thanks for this post from:
Hunterhill
September 14th, 2021 at 4:25:11 PM permalink
Quote: FinsRule

I was really excited about this question. I thought it would be the most hands you could lose in one deck you versus a dealer playing BS. My guess is 8.

  • link to original post



    Thatís what I thought it was going to be also!

    Can we make it that question and figure out?
    The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong; but that is the way to bet.
    billryan
    billryan 
    Joined: Nov 2, 2009
    • Threads: 192
    • Posts: 11746
    September 14th, 2021 at 4:29:02 PM permalink
    What is the maximum amount of hands you could get out of a deck. Wouldn't that be the same answer, but a different question.
    Gialmere
    Gialmere
    Joined: Nov 26, 2018
    • Threads: 41
    • Posts: 2052
    September 14th, 2021 at 4:30:45 PM permalink
    What dealer rules? Does surrender count as a loss?
    Have you tried 22 tonight? I said 22.
    unJon
    unJon
    Joined: Jul 1, 2018
    • Threads: 14
    • Posts: 2864
    September 14th, 2021 at 4:53:22 PM permalink
    Quote: billryan

    What is the maximum amount of hands you could get out of a deck. Wouldn't that be the same answer, but a different question.

  • link to original post



    Might be right. Not sure itís necessarily true since BS different than dealer strategy there will be hands that work one way and not the other.
    The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong; but that is the way to bet.
    billryan
    billryan 
    Joined: Nov 2, 2009
    • Threads: 192
    • Posts: 11746
    September 14th, 2021 at 4:56:01 PM permalink
    That's true. H17 or S17 would be a factor. This is way above my abilities.
    BoSox
    BoSox
    Joined: Mar 9, 2021
    • Threads: 7
    • Posts: 228
    September 14th, 2021 at 5:25:15 PM permalink
    What about all those pushes? How are those considered?
    Dieter
    Administrator
    Dieter
    Joined: Jul 23, 2014
    • Threads: 8
    • Posts: 2000
    September 14th, 2021 at 5:40:38 PM permalink
    Quote: BoSox

    What about all those pushes? How are those considered?

  • link to original post



    I think that if you didn't get paid, you didn't win.
    May the cards fall in your favor.
    teliot
    teliot
    Joined: Oct 19, 2009
    • Threads: 40
    • Posts: 2223
    Thanks for this post from:
    unJonsmoothgrhFinsRule
    September 14th, 2021 at 5:54:29 PM permalink
    I get 11, but I can't get 12.

    2-2 A-K
    2-2 A-K
    3-3 A-K
    3-3 A-K
    4-4-9 Q-8
    4-4-9 Q-8
    T-7 Q-8
    T-7 Q-8
    6-7-9 7-5
    5-6-6 J-J
    9-J J-T

    Leftover = 556T
    Poetry website: www.totallydisconnected.com
    ThatDonGuy
    ThatDonGuy
    Joined: Jun 22, 2011
    • Threads: 105
    • Posts: 4926
    Thanks for this post from:
    Dieter
    September 14th, 2021 at 5:56:54 PM permalink
    Quote: billryan

    What is the maximum amount of hands you could get out of a deck. Wouldn't that be the same answer, but a different question.

  • link to original post


    If there is no restriction as to the player's strategy, the "obvious" answer is, 13 hands, assuming the player always stands on the two dealt cards.

    I do know that you can get 18 21s out of a single deck - I figured it out once after playing Turbo 21 on Pogo.

    If you count all of the Aces as 11, the sum of the values in a single deck is 4 x (2 + 3 + ... + 9 + 10 + 10 + 10 + 10 + 11) = 380 = 21 x 18 + 2.
    Set the 2 of spades aside
    Hands 1-4: Ace & 10 of each suit
    Hands 5-8: K, 8, 3 of each suit
    Hands 9-12: Q, 7, 4 of each suit
    Hands 13-15: J, 9, 2 of hearts, clubs, and diamonds
    This leaves the four 5s, the four 6s, and the 9 and Jack of spades
    Hand 16: 6 of hearts, 5 of hearts, 5 of clubs, 5 of diamonds
    Hand 17: Jack, 6, 5 of spades
    Hand 18: 9 of spades, 6 of clubs, 6 of diamonds
    Gialmere
    Gialmere
    Joined: Nov 26, 2018
    • Threads: 41
    • Posts: 2052
    Thanks for this post from:
    unJon
    September 14th, 2021 at 6:01:47 PM permalink
    Assuming BS and liberal rules...
    Dealer (up-card first) followed by player (draw card last).

    K-A > Q-J
    K-A > Q-J
    K-A > Q-J
    K-A > Q-J

    (Here, assume player split all four 8s then doubles.)
    7-10 > 8-2-3
    .......... 8-2-3
    .......... 8-2-3
    .......... 8-2-3

    (Here, Player doubles.)
    7-10 > 6-5-4
    7-10 > 6-5-4
    7-10 > 6-5-4

    9-9 > 9-4-9 (bust)

    5, 6 leftover
    Have you tried 22 tonight? I said 22.

    • Jump to: