## Poll

 Yes, Numbers Don't Lie. No votes (0%) No, No, No, Totally Delusional. 1 vote (14.28%) Fat Chance, Dream on. 4 votes (57.14%) A Broken Clock is Always Right Twice a Day. No votes (0%) @//!~^#&>, Unfit to Print 4 votes (57.14%)

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moses
Joined: Sep 23, 2013
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June 4th, 2021 at 3:28:58 PM permalink
Quote: moses

JohnDoe shoots and SCORE. Norm could thin out some of the systems he sponsors at qfit. I think there are 28? Most of them were computed with outdated misinformation.

No books to write or read for me. All you need is SCORE followed by good old fashion hard work.

That being said, you could go from 28 to 2 and still have simplicity and not sacrifice SCORE.

No need to create confusion to confound the understanding.

Take KJ and the HILO'ers. Drop the 2. Add the 7 and 14v10 to the ill 18.
Better yet add it to the 5. Of course now we have the feared Level 2. But it shouldn't make much difference to the cancel out way of counting. Reduce the wild variance and swings with improved deck composition.

Freighters Wong Halves with ASC is a Level 3. The real problem is having 4 different 1/2 point tags. Drop the 2. Count the 7 as a 1. Add 14v10. Now there are only two 1/2 point tags.

Easy Peasy. No? Make complex simple again.
Romes
Joined: Jul 22, 2014
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June 8th, 2021 at 3:51:33 PM permalink
Quote: Moraine

Believe it or Not, AceMT, by Counting the High Cards -- A, K, Q, J, and Ten --

1. Attains 99.1% of Hi-Lo’s total BC+ PE + IC,
2. Can reach 100 % perfect IC with an added Ace Side Count, and beat Hi-Lo's toal BC+PE+IC hands down,
...........

Ah, so by making it easier we can then make it harder to do the same thing. Nailed it.
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
billryan
Joined: Nov 2, 2009
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June 8th, 2021 at 6:16:30 PM permalink
We had to destroy the village in order to save it.
moses
Joined: Sep 23, 2013
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June 9th, 2021 at 9:12:38 AM permalink
The only two cards you dont need to count is the 2 and the 8. One little and the one in the middle. The 9 is pivotal and can be used to balance.

In a column count, without deep pen, counting the 2 and 8 will do more damage than good. The 8 is best at neutral and the 2 can lead to higher TCs with poor deck compositions in a conventional count. This results in wilder swings which sends some off the deep end. Handling it well is not the answer. Simple improvements can be made with todays technology and SCORE.

It comes down to deck composition. You cant get that if you dont count the cards. Too much throwing good money after bad without it.
Last edited by: moses on Jun 9, 2021
Moraine
Joined: May 12, 2021
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June 20th, 2021 at 6:27:26 AM permalink
Quote: johndoe

This user has been banned from two other blackjack forums that I know of for exactly this kind of nonsense behavior. They're trying to be a bit sneaky about it here, pretending to have some innocent interest before springing their book on everyone.

It's pure proselytizing over their "system" and the book they are selling that describes it. They will not listen to reasoned analysis or any criticism, it's like a religion with them. I would strongly recommend banning them here too, before it gets out of hand (looks like it already has).

WOW, johndoe, you joined this forum on December 6, 2010. No one had had an opportunity to fathom the depth of your soul and mind in more than 10 years. And you made your very first post in this forum on the 4th of June in the Year of 2021 of our Lord? On Moraine’s thread: Believe it or Not, AceMT by . . . ?

Moraine felt deeply honored upon knowing that he had given you a cause to break your decade-old silence. What an Achievement!

Please keep up your good work, johndoe. We -- Moraine should also be included -- owed you a heart-felt thank. Go whatever forums Moraine might have not yet been banned. Find Dirt, Snitch on Him! We count on you to prevent card counters from being “proselytized” by the heresy AceMT "before it gets out of hand." Amen, Amen, Amen. 😇
Last edited by: Moraine on Jun 20, 2021
GMan
Joined: Jan 5, 2013
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June 20th, 2021 at 7:08:11 AM permalink
Quote: Moraine

Moraine felt deeply honored upon knowing that he had given you a cause to break your decade-old silence. What an Achievement!

Yes, and a cause it is. Anyone trying to stop you from spreading you bullshit on the internet has a cause. Some sites understand faster than others and have already stopped you from spreading your s..t

Go on, your time is counted.
G Man
moses
Joined: Sep 23, 2013
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June 20th, 2021 at 9:19:28 PM permalink
Quote: GMan

Yes, and a cause it is. Anyone trying to stop you from spreading you bullshit on the internet has a cause. Some sites understand faster than others and have already stopped you from spreading your s..t

Go on, your time is counted.

ok. I will bite. Who is Moraine?
OnceDear
Joined: Jun 1, 2014
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June 21st, 2021 at 6:17:27 AM permalink
Quote: moses

ok. I will bite. Who is Moraine?

Moraine Mono is a guy that self published a book about his favourite card counting system, ACEMT. I suspect he's also the designer of that counting system, but that's academic.

He came here as some random newbie to discuss the merits of that count, but it was a while before we got him to confess to his self promotion of his book. I allowed him to stay in spite of that sneaky spamming, but when he started loosely insulting others in this thread, I lost patience and nuked him. He's pulled the same stunt and got nuked at other fora.

It's a funny old world. By answering your question, I promote his book \$:o)

I don't recommend or endorse his book.
Beware. The earth is NOT flat. Hit and run is not a winning strategy: Pressing into trends IS not a winning strategy: Progressives are not a winning strategy: Don't Buy It! .Don't even take it for free.
billryan
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June 21st, 2021 at 8:04:58 AM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

Moraine Mono is a guy that self published a book about his favourite card counting system, ACEMT.

It's a funny old world. By answering your question, I promote his book \$:o)

I don't recommend or endorse his book.

No, you only promote it.
moses
Joined: Sep 23, 2013