bobbartop
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November 9th, 2019 at 9:59:23 PM permalink
Quote: heatmap

I was saying thinking that you can (as an average person) make a career of gambling will make you emotionally crazy. Because you are expecting a steady profit that allows you to live a steady normal life. And it doesn’t from what I’ve seen Zen king and his rants about. Honestly a job or selling drugs is more profitable in my mind. I’m not going to be gambling for the next 50 years. I don’t plan on making a career of gambling or a lot of money gambling at all.



There's something wrong with this conversation, and it's not me. I don't know you from Adam, but you seem confused. No, you are confused. Not meant as an insult, not at all. But I feel like you haven't heard or understood a thing I've said. That's ok, I've barely understood anything you've said either. lol

Best wishes, heatmap. You seem like a nice enough guy. You really do. I'm sorry we don't seem to be on the same wavelength. Maybe we'll do better in a future thread. Hang in there, buddy.
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November 9th, 2019 at 10:06:17 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

ZenKing, as he presents himself here and elsewhere, is so far from a successful professional gambler, in methods, temperment, bankroll, plans, skillset, it's sad. I'm kind of horrified you're using him as your example.

Don't be ZenKing of the gambling forums. It's that simple. He's not, in my somewhat limited experience, typical. He's not even ZenKing of the forums in person.



I was not presenting him in any positive light. I was using him as an example as to why I would never try to gamble professionally. Sorry I may have worded this in any way that may have made people think he was successful because i never considered him successful based on his emotional response to his results. Never have I ever looked up to him. Never have I ever thought he was successful. I just saw his emotional response and said “yup screw that”.
michael99000
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November 9th, 2019 at 10:17:18 PM permalink
Quote: heatmap

I was not presenting him in any positive light. I was using him as an example as to why I would never try to gamble professionally. Sorry I may have worded this in any way that may have made people think he was successful because i never considered him successful based on his emotional response to his results. Never have I ever looked up to him. Never have I ever thought he was successful. I just saw his emotional response and said “yup screw that”.



Are you aware of the fact that he never wakes up to an alarm clock?
DeMango
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November 9th, 2019 at 10:50:35 PM permalink
Just had a really twisted thought. Bob and Richard interviewing Zen King.
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November 9th, 2019 at 10:57:53 PM permalink
Quote: DeMango

Just had a really twisted thought. Bob and Richard interviewing Zen King.



Not really sure why that would be a twisted thought. He would make for a better interview than more than half of the people they have had on the show.
bobbartop
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November 9th, 2019 at 10:58:45 PM permalink
Quote: DeMango

Just had a really twisted thought. Bob and Richard interviewing Zen King.



Equally twisted thought. Bob and Frank K. interviewing Zen King.
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November 9th, 2019 at 11:02:44 PM permalink
Quote: MaxPen

Not really sure why that would be a twisted thought. He would make for a better interview than more than half of the people they have had on the show.



I liked the one two weeks ago with Buddy Frank, who is scheduled for part-2 soon. Last week was good also, imo.
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November 9th, 2019 at 11:26:48 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

ZenKing, as he presents himself here and elsewhere, is so far from a successful professional gambler, in methods, temperment, bankroll, plans, skillset, it's sad. I'm kind of horrified you're using him as your example.

Don't be ZenKing of the gambling forums. It's that simple. He's not, in my somewhat limited experience, typical. He's not even ZenKing of the forums in person.

ZenKing Rocks, unfortunately he's His Own Worst Enemy with lots of wasted potential. His focus/obsession on one thing is a great hindrance to him since it's not something he can really scale up with what he's doing. It's a tough gig, especially for him given his conspiracy theory thinking and personality.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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November 10th, 2019 at 8:49:30 AM permalink
Quote: michael99000

Are you aware of the fact that he never wakes up to an alarm clock?



in that case i envy him

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November 13th, 2019 at 3:07:33 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I can't recall exactly what was said but I do remember you suggesting it might be a good idea to quit a +EV play if you were way over expectation and fear of giving too much back(or something like that)...

Wouldn't think this was from me. The only thing I could imagine would be if you're up $X which is near a threshold for shift manager attention, which would fall under #2 above. I certainly wouldn't leave the game because of the gamblers ruin theory being that I'm "due" to run bad or something. Independent trials, +EV is +EV, etc, etc, etc.
Playing it correctly means you've already won.

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