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Zcore13
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January 4th, 2019 at 10:05:56 PM permalink
Quote: ZenKinG

Can you please tell every casino to try and backroom me? Thanks.



I've offered you to come to AZ. I'll show you how things really work when we ask you to leave..


ZCore13
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FCBLComish
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January 4th, 2019 at 10:06:33 PM permalink
Well there you have it Minty, good advice from both sides of the table.
Beware, I work for the dark side.... We have cookies
ZenKinG
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January 4th, 2019 at 10:08:00 PM permalink
Quote: Zcore13

I've offered you to come to AZ. I'll show you how things really work when we ask you to leave..


ZCore13



Not once have i said i do not leave upon request. My claims have always been restricting me from entering the premises in future visits, which is completely illegal. I also laugh at you and your casino because you think youre untouchable just because youre on an indian reservation,. You guys think you have complete sovereign immunity, but that only applies on the state level, you guys still must follow federal law, so no im not scared of you guys either. Good luck trespassing me and having me go to prison. Ill keep coming back and ill sue each and everyone one of your security guards in their private capacity under Title 18.
Last edited by: ZenKinG on Jan 5, 2019
Any private business open to the PUBLIC (ie. droned out casinos) cannot have a criminal trespass enforced against an individual without GOOD CAUSE (Disruptive or Disorderly conduct). You will never go to prison for being thrown out of a casino for legal advantage play and then returning because it's simply unconstitutional 'as applied' to the individual. 'As applied' constitutional issues must FIRST be raised in DISTRICT COURT (trial court) to have it thrown out. You CANNOT raise it on APPEAL This is the best kept secret in the world of casinos not just in Vegas but everywhere in the country. Thank me later.
Zcore13
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January 4th, 2019 at 10:12:41 PM permalink
Quote: ZenKinG

Youre also on indian land but dont think you have complete sovereign immunity, you guys still must follow federal law.



Not true is most cases. They choose to follow most Federal Law. They dont have to. They are their own Nation.

At the previous Tribe I worked for, they did not follow Federal sexual harrassment guidelines. At my current location, they can grow and sell marijuana if they choose and be safe from Federal issues.


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ZenKinG
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January 4th, 2019 at 10:18:55 PM permalink
Quote: Zcore13

Not true is most cases. They choose to follow most Federal Law. They dont have to. They are their own Nation.

At the previous Tribe I worked for, they did not follow Federal sexual harrassment guidelines. At my current location, they can grow and sell marijuana if they choose and be safe from Federal issues.


ZCore13



Patently False.

If the federal govt wants to intervene they will rip your tribe to shreds. Its not the indians who choose, it's the other way around, it's the fed who chooses not to intervene in those particular offenses. Marijuana etc are not something the fed really cares to regulate and leaves it up to the states. Once again, nice try to misconstrue information amd confuse everyone.
Any private business open to the PUBLIC (ie. droned out casinos) cannot have a criminal trespass enforced against an individual without GOOD CAUSE (Disruptive or Disorderly conduct). You will never go to prison for being thrown out of a casino for legal advantage play and then returning because it's simply unconstitutional 'as applied' to the individual. 'As applied' constitutional issues must FIRST be raised in DISTRICT COURT (trial court) to have it thrown out. You CANNOT raise it on APPEAL This is the best kept secret in the world of casinos not just in Vegas but everywhere in the country. Thank me later.
Zcore13
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January 4th, 2019 at 11:13:43 PM permalink
Quote: ZenKinG

Patently False.

If the federal govt wants to intervene they will rip your tribe to shreds. Its not the indians who choose, it's the other way around, it's the fed who chooses not to intervene in those particular offenses. Marijuana etc are not something the fed really cares to regulate and leaves it up to the states. Once again, nice try to misconstrue information amd confuse everyone.



Wrong.


ZCore13
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ZenKinG
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January 4th, 2019 at 11:23:53 PM permalink
Quote: Zcore13

Wrong.


ZCore13



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Any private business open to the PUBLIC (ie. droned out casinos) cannot have a criminal trespass enforced against an individual without GOOD CAUSE (Disruptive or Disorderly conduct). You will never go to prison for being thrown out of a casino for legal advantage play and then returning because it's simply unconstitutional 'as applied' to the individual. 'As applied' constitutional issues must FIRST be raised in DISTRICT COURT (trial court) to have it thrown out. You CANNOT raise it on APPEAL This is the best kept secret in the world of casinos not just in Vegas but everywhere in the country. Thank me later.
darkoz
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January 4th, 2019 at 11:59:26 PM permalink
The Battle of the Z'sss

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RS
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January 5th, 2019 at 12:46:26 AM permalink
Quote: Zcore13

Not true is most cases. They choose to follow most Federal Law. They dont have to. They are their own Nation.

At the previous Tribe I worked for, they did not follow Federal sexual harrassment guidelines. At my current location, they can grow and sell marijuana if they choose and be safe from Federal issues.


ZCore13


my emphasis


Uhhhhhhhhhh.........what????? Indians must still follow federal laws.

I mean, I guess you can argue they don't HAVE TO follow federal law, just as I don't have to follow federal law either, or anyone for that matter. But we are all subject to federal law.
Zcore13
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January 5th, 2019 at 1:39:23 AM permalink
Quote: RS

Quote: Zcore13

Not true is most cases. They choose to follow most Federal Law. They dont have to. They are their own Nation.

At the previous Tribe I worked for, they did not follow Federal sexual harrassment guidelines. At my current location, they can grow and sell marijuana if they choose and be safe from Federal issues.


ZCore13


my emphasis


Uhhhhhhhhhh.........what????? Indians must still follow federal laws.

I mean, I guess you can argue they don't HAVE TO follow federal law, just as I don't have to follow federal law either, or anyone for that matter. But we are all subject to federal law.



To be more specific, the Executive Branch of the U.S. Government and the Judicial Branch have no authority over Indian Tribes. Only Congress has authority to deal with Tribal Entities.

A few things that Tribes benefit from:

You can't sue a Tribe in Federal Court.
The First Amendment does not hold up on Tribal Land.
Tribes have immunity to Federal Civil crimes.

There are many more. In general, Tribes are left to make their own rules/laws, but in general, they follow most Federal guidlines.

It's quite a tricky situation.


ZCore13
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