If the count is in the players favor is it not also in the dealers favor as well?

The title says it all

Thorp was the best thing to ever happen to casinos. Ill leave it at that.

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The title says it all

Does the dealer get one and a half for a bj?
Can the dealer change his play based on the count?

In addition to the extra payout for BJ, the players can also double down, split and surrender. And even take insurance! Yes if the count is high enough, insurance is the right play.

The dealer can never alter his style or make decisions.

That’s why favorable counts favor the player. And, duh, why unfavorable counts favor the house.

no, because you are more likely to land your doubles in high counts

Okay. So you know 'The Count' This mythical figure arrived at by any of three main techniques and oodles of minor variations. You still gotta make your decision without knowing WHICH square that "favorable" card is going to land on. Yours, the next player or that "Final Player'', the Dealer.

One casino in Vegas even had for a while a dealer who called out the count at the Low Level Table. The whole table was full of card counters, the dealer made it easy for them... and the chips still flowed towards the chip tray, not away from it.

I've never heard of a casino going out of business due to card counters, its only the management at a few places who seem to think that is possible. Was it SouthPoint who 86'd three men who went from red chip to green chip play. The casino added insult to injury by calling the three card counting friends greedy.

It is like "boarding house reach" it will reveal character but its not going to make much difference.

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In addition to the extra payout for BJ, the players can also double down, split and surrender. And even take insurance! Yes if the count is high enough, insurance is the right play.

The dealer can never alter his style or make decisions.

That’s why favorable counts favor the player. And, duh, why unfavorable counts favor the house.

What about making it more likely of a push? Say we get hidden aces behind tens? No chance of insurance so to say?

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What about making it more likely of a push? Say we get hidden aces behind tens? No chance of insurance so to say?

You asked a question and were told why. The math really speaks for itself.
Why are you worried about pushing? A push cost you nothing. I'd play all day if the results were guaranteed to be a push. Play black 24-7.

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You asked a question and were told why. The math really speaks for itself.
Why are you worried about pushing? A push cost you nothing. I'd play all day if the results were guaranteed to be a push. Play black 24-7.

Cause I want to win. Says someone who apparently has a problem with winning

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Cause I want to win

Everyone wants to win, but few understand how hard it is and how much of a grind it is. Not to mention how disciplined one has to be. Not to mention bankroll requirements to make an hourly that is worthwhile. Not to mention proficiency, understanding standard deviation, N-Zero and sizing your bankroll accordingly for a prolonged losing streak, as well as knowing which games to play and avoid and when to wong in and out and why. Not to mention so many other things.

Whats your bankroll? ill then give you your answer of how to win. Im guessing its not much and my answer will be to go work two jobs and save and learn everything you can about the game before setting foot in a casino other than to practice red chipping and getting a feel for the environment.

Thank you for responding I obviously can't handle doubt but I'll get it one day my bankroll is not much I can't handle more than 8 consecutive losses at a 15 dollar minimum but yeah

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Everyone wants to win, but few understand how hard it is and how much of a grind it is. Not to mention how disciplined one has to be. Not to mention bankroll requirements to make an hourly that is worthwhile. Not to mention proficiency, understanding standard deviation, N-Zero and sizing your bankroll accordingly for a prolonged losing streak, as well as knowing which games to play and avoid and when to wong in and out and why. Not to mention so many other things.

Whats your bankroll? ill then give you your answer of how to win. Im guessing its not much and my answer will be to go work two jobs and save and learn everything you can about the game before setting foot in a casino other than to practice red chipping and getting a feel for the environment.

I need you to try to explain N-zero to me I'm very ignorant to it ... I will try to give you articles that involve the same term... even though I have no clue

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Cause I want to win. Says someone who apparently has a problem with winning

I honestly don't care about winning. I care about making money. Plenty of ways to make money without winning. I'll happily break even all day if my play is earning decent mailings.

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I need you to try to explain N-zero to me I'm very ignorant to it ... I will try to give you articles that involve the same term... even though I have no clue

N0 is the number of hands (or rounds) you need to play such that 1 SD = EV. This metric is useful because after you’ve played 1 N0 hands/rounds, then if you’re down 1 SD you’ll be breaking even. It’s used as a measure of how strong a play is and its volatility over time.