Quote: IbeatyouracesWRONG WRONG WRONG!!!
I mentioned before, when I got back into counting in '08, I ran just as bad from the get go albeit lower stakes. I was down nearly $2000 and a month and a half in on a $10 game before things turned around.
What was ur average bet? 2000 loss even with a smaller bet still is not as bad as -8500 with 70 hours played. I'm sure you were betting at least 2x100 or 2x150?
You also didn't have the whole jungle of insects attacking you in your sleep leaving your hand and knee like a grapefruit. Need some serious benadryl at this point and might have to get some antibiotics, everyone says I look poisoned.
I'm all seriousness I'm pretty close to retiring. This whole counting thing has been a disgrace. 900 hours and +33k to show for it. Basically been playing breakeven for the past 300 hours. Bankroll is now at 48.5k thanks to rent and expenses.
This Vegas trip Also has been nothing t of a disaster. Just when u thought blackjack was bad enough, now your whole body is one big itch infestation with your hand the size of a grapefruit. You just couldn't make this up if u tried. No one will ever be this unlucky when they first move to vegas
Just go to the ER and they'll give you some steroids and antihistamine and it will go away in a few days.
Stuff happens no matter how you are making money. Just go get yourself taken care of.
Quote: ZenKinGWhat was ur average bet? 2000 loss even with a smaller bet still is not as bad as -8500 with 70 hours played. I'm sure you were betting at least 2x100 or 2x150?
You also didn't have the whole jungle of insects attacking you in your sleep leaving your hand and knee like a grapefruit. Need some serious benadryl at this point and might have to get some antibiotics, everyone says I look poisoned.
I'm all seriousness I'm pretty close to retiring. This whole counting thing has been a disgrace. 900 hours and +33k to show for it. Basically been playing breakeven for the past 300 hours. Bankroll is now at 48.5k thanks to rent and expenses.
This Vegas trip Also has been nothing t of a disaster. Just when u thought blackjack was bad enough, now your whole body is one big itch infestation with a hand the size of a grapefruit. You just couldn't make this up if u tried. No one will ever be this unlucky when they first move to Vegas
Perspective. Talk to the 18% of the 1.2 to 4 million pathological gamblers who declared bankruptcy in America. Many of them moved to Vegas and are probably homeless or on the welfare rolls. Go to the walk-in clinic, get your creams, antibiotics, pay the money, and move on. And get your landlord to pony-up for bedbug removal.
PS Glad to see that you are alive and well.
Perhaps not for long if he doesn't do something.... like go to the ER.Quote: boymimbo
PS Glad to see that you are alive and well.
Bite me once shame it, bite me twice......
Lots of people tried to give you a lot of advice and you made it very clear that you already knew everything and were going to do your own thing instead of listening to anything they had to offer. You are definitely on to something when you say God curses anyone who is too smart.
Quote: TomGI can see it was God's curse that prevented you from calling an exterminator at the first sign of insect infestation. And that it must have also been God's curse that stopped you from filling out a medicaid application.
Lots of people tried to give you a lot of advice and you made it very clear that you already knew everything and were going to do your own thing instead of listening to anything they had to offer. You are definitely on to something when you say God curses anyone who is too smart.
The kid's new to life. Cut him some slack. He doesn't know how good his life is right now.
Fixed that for you.Quote: RSAll this would have likely been prevented had you flown out to LV for 10 days or so and gotten a lay
Quote: AxelWolfFixed that for you.
LOL*
Let's see a photo of that.
Do you know how to examine your bedding to determine if they're present?
I'd tell you, but it'll save time if you google it.
Thanks for the generous offer, monet, even if I can't get there. And even if you have to cancel: I'm sure it is real.
Quote: beachbumbabsI have to relinquish my reserved dinner spot: I'm tied up this week. So, if dinner is still on, there's an open seat.
Thanks for the generous offer, monet, even if I can't get there. And even if you have to cancel: I'm sure it is real.
I'm pretty sure the Monet thing is off. It was very generous of him to offer but circumstances have changed. I think anyone wanting to attend should expect to pay their own way.
As Romes and Gamer are from out of town, I think they should pick the night. that works for them. Most of us have pretty flexible schedules.
I'm in any nite but the 4th.
Who's all interested and does Sunday around 6pm sound like an okay time to meetup for dinner? Throw some dinner options out there!
Quote: RomesI'm fairly flexible as well, though I suppose Sunday evening is probably open for me to just throw that out as a starter date. We can all plan a regular meetup and still grab dinner, chat, or play something... I'd love to play some blackjack with ZK.
Who's all interested and does Sunday around 6pm sound like an okay time to meetup for dinner? Throw some dinner options out there!
Last time I played blackjack with you, I got backed off. This sounds like a conspiracy....
Coincidence?
YOU DECIDE!!!
Don't make fun of me when I screw up basic strategy. I'll be your cover ;)
In that case skip the casino and I'll host it and book the action. If ZK thinks pre shuffled cards from China are bad....Quote: RomesOMG can we fill an entire table up with BJ players to play with ZK? =)
Quote: ZenKinGRomes, sunday works. Not sure who else wants to come out, since everyone hates me on this forum.
I'm pretty sure no one here hates you.
Criticism != hate. I'm sure we'll get a crowd =P. Who else is good for Sunday evening around 6pm? Axel? RS? How about the other 6 people that were going to do dinner already? Anyone else?Quote: ZenKinGRomes, sunday works. Not sure who else wants to come out, since everyone hates me on this forum.
Will The Airing Of Grievances be a separate event?
No one hates u. Just dont make yourself sound like a fanatic and trouble maker. A lot of people here rely on low key to make a living.Quote: MaxPenI'm pretty sure no one here hates you.
P.S. I will chip in $10 as tips.
If you guys feel its not worth exposing yourself to the casino we can always round up some cards, shoe, chips and go somewhere fun, like pool sharks or whatever( most of the guys like shooting a little pool) And we can see just how good you guys are at counting. We can move on after that and do something different(poker or whatever).
If we shoot some pool I can probbaly get my GF to go. I doubt she would be interested in hanging out at the casino watching people gamble and hearing us all BS about gambling.
I like this.. You can contact everyone to set up a place then =D... Looking forward to your text!Quote: AxelWolfIf I'm available, I don't mind hanging out, but I don't want to be playing BJ at the same table if you guys are counting. It's not worth possible heat. I will be glad to observe and take some action. With a small group, I suggest we keep the location private and among known members. I think I have everyone's numbers of people who will want to attend, if not, anyone can contact me via PM.
Hey now, it's been a while since I've done a lot of counting ;-) lol... I think the preliminary plans were just for dinner, but obviously I'm up for whatever (especially watching or even playing with ZK). I guarantee I can lay down good "drunk" cover for him as his friend... "cmon p*ssy BET THE BLACK ONES!"Quote: AxelWolfIf you guys feel its not worth exposing yourself to the casino we can always round up some cards, shoe, chips and go somewhere fun, like pool sharks or whatever( most of the guys like shooting a little pool) And we can see just how good you guys are at counting.
Oh, I didn't realize you wanted to donate money to us too =D.Quote: AxelWolf...We can move on after that and do something different(poker or whatever).
Again, I'm down for whatever. Don't want you guys hustling me in pool, so expect little action on the pool table, but other props are always fair game!Quote: AxelWolfIf we shoot some pool I can probbaly get my GF to go. I doubt she would be interested in hanging out at the casino watching people gamble and hearing us all BS about gambling.
We would play something like PGP or Craps where there isn't so much heat, if anyone's willing to play a -EV game.
I'm down for whatever though.
Im just lost for words, really am. Frustrated isnt the word. Im sick of putting so much work into somethind and never getting results. The amount of bull$hit ive seen on a comsistent basis over these past 1000 hours is starting to make me go insane. Im just convinced theres not anotber counter as cursed as me. Go ask anyone what theyve made after 1000 hours and i bet theyre all at EV or very close to it. Meanwhile im at half my EV, if that. Im absolutely gutted.
Right when you think things are turning around, i play two shoes that end up with a TC of 10+ on each of them when the cut card comes out, and have the dealer pull 6 card 20s and 21s at a monster count against my 19s and 20s and lose both shoes. It doesnt even matter anymore if i have two pat 20s against a 4,5, or 6 with max bets out or a doubled down 19, 20, or 21, i wont win them, it will just be a dealer 20 or 21. You would think luck would start cancelling out after this many hours but no, i just keep getting tortured. Im just convinced no other counter has been this unlucky. I just wish ppl would watch me play and see for themselves just how cursed i really am. Skill is absolutely irrelvant in my life, no matter what the fuk i do, im always the 1 in 100 guy, the 1 % sucker. What the hell is even the point anymore?
Whomever is interested should text or PM me please. I should have to PM.or text multiple people it's better if everyone texts or PM's me.Quote: gamerfreakI can't shoot pool worth a damn but I'd hang out and watch.
We would play something like PGP or Craps where there isn't so much heat, if anyone's willing to play a -EV game.
I'm down for whatever though.
At your age and hustle you should be getting 80 hours a week IMO.
You seem like the least qualifier card counter ever, both in terms of attitude and understanding of statistics.
Your whole approach is logically flawed: you are placing your faith in the mathematics of the game by counting cards, yet you also insist you are "cursed" and "unlucky" via some mystical force.
My advice to you is to take the rest of your bankroll to a craps table with 10x odds and YOLO it all one session; at least then you'd have a chance to win.
You are clearly not cut out to be a card counter or any other kind of advantage player. Time to find a real job.
Quote: sodawaterZK are you actually counting each card or are you just betting a lot when you "get the feeling" a lot of small cards have come out?
You seem like the least qualifier card counter ever, both in terms of attitude and understanding of statistics.
Your whole approach is logically flawed: you are placing your faith in the mathematics of the game by counting cards, yet you also insist you are "cursed" and "unlucky" via some mystical force.
My advice to you is to take the rest of your bankroll to a craps table with 10x odds and YOLO it all one session; at least then you'd have a chance to win.
You are clearly not cut out to be a card counter or any other kind of advantage player. Time to find a real job.
PS Soda (or I) doesn't hate you. He is offering constructive criticism, and he is right. Stop bellyachin' and start killing the casinos! You haven't gone down any more in the past couple of weeks -- did the casinos stop cheating?
Then quit and go back to playing, as you'll be armed with sufficient knowledge to make the casinos your private ATM.
Cheat the cheaters: now THAT'S AP.
Quote: monet041282 hours of advantage play is nothing! Especially when your playing straight up! lets say your getting 10k of coin in an hour... that's only worth 8200 at 1% return. I've easily swung 5% in either direction with that amount of total hours. You really just need more hours and more coin in... it's that simple. 82 hours is basically two weeks of work for a regular stiff but they work jobs where they don't lose.
At your age and hustle you should be getting 80 hours a week IMO.
What about the other 900 hours? Im close to 1000 hours and only $34,200 profit to show for it. My EV is well over 60k and thats being conservative. Just sick of being on the wrong side of the bell curve. Just want this ridiculous bad luck to cancel out and it doesnt. Yea only 82 hours played but ive probably put in over 30 hrs of walking, so i havent exactly been slacking.
To the other poster 'soda', you cant be serious, you actually think im betting on a hunch? Unreal. Im playing as flawless as any counter can and even using a higher level count to bump up my win rate another 10% and cut variance a bit. Higher level counts in the real world dont really matter much actually, but theoretically should be bumping up my win rate a bite. Everything about my game is solid.
Id put up my whole bankroll to any doubter thinking theres a hole in my game. I test myself on Casino Verite all the time and my game is solid. TC conversion is perfect, i know every single index play from -1 to +12, i wong out aggressively at -1, i backcount a ton, i now even lowered my stakes to keep risk as low as possible and factored in rent amd miscellaneous expenses. Ive looked over my game as much as i could and i domt see anythimg wrong with it other than the dealer pulling miraculous 6 card 21s at the worst times that result in $1000 swings when i have premium hands and a big favorite on that round. If i camt win those rounds, i domt see how ill ever hit EV.