tomchina123
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August 26th, 2015 at 11:03:46 AM permalink
hi, Wizard,

thanks for the site, i am one of readesr with the most time spent reading your site, l learned a lot from u.

here a question: blackjack Effective Percent Advantage on Removing 1st Such Card on Player¡¯s Advantage.

i read some different versions. but i really want to know what you say.

suppose: 6 decks, dealer stand soft 17. macao rules. not early or late surrender,

2 +0.37%
3 +0.44%
4 +0.52%
5 +0.64%
6 +0.45%
7 +0.30%
8 0.00
9 -0.13%
10 -0.53%
Ace -0.49%

one version is like this, others are pictures, i cannot copy them here.

can u help on this?

another questions, i emailed u, but maybe best i copy here:

for sic bo,

for the 6 and 15, in your site, you said it is 10 combinations of winning, but i only find 9, maybe you counts for 222 and 555, but it shouldn't be counted as winning,?

here are them:
this is only 9 combinations for 6:
1.1.4. 1.2.3, 1.3,2, 1.4.1
2.1.3, 2.3,1
3.1.2. 3.2.1
4.1.1.

this is only 9 combinations for 15:
366.
456 465
546 564
636 645 654 663

any more? can u let me know any wrong by me?
beachbumbabs
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August 26th, 2015 at 1:06:05 PM permalink
The 10th combinations on this are 222 for 6, and 555 for 15. Even though those would be paid on sic bo trips, they're also point totals. (I think; only played the game a couple times.) On your BJ question, I am not a math expert and can't reply.

Welcome to the forum, tomchina, and thanks for the questions!
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Wizard
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August 26th, 2015 at 1:18:39 PM permalink
Quote: tomchina123

for the 6 and 15, in your site, you said it is 10 combinations of winning, but i only find 9, maybe you counts for 222 and 555, but it shouldn't be counted as winning,?

A three of a kind is an automatic loss only for the high and low bets. A 2-2-2 would be a win for a bet on a total of six.

I'll have to get back to you on the effect of removal question if nobody else beats me to it.
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Wizard
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August 26th, 2015 at 7:08:41 PM permalink
Here is the effect on the player's expected return of removing just one card from a six-deck shoe.

Card Stand soft 17 Hit soft 17
2 0.07% 0.07%
3 0.08% 0.09%
4 0.11% 0.12%
5 0.15% 0.15%
6 0.14% 0.09%
7 0.04% 0.04%
8 -0.01% -0.01%
9 -0.04% -0.05%
10 -0.09% -0.10%
Ace -0.09% -0.08%
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
tomchina123
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August 26th, 2015 at 7:36:40 PM permalink
thanks for the answer and welcome.

like i had thought before, Wizard cannot be wrong, if i found some thing may be wrong, i need to doubt for myself first.

it works.

i asked in a group of 200 peoeple. some told me, paid for both.

so it is 10 combinatitions. 9 and 15 will be winning when 333, 555.
tomchina123
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August 26th, 2015 at 7:38:12 PM permalink
yes, you are right, as always. i need to pay more attentions to details when i have doubts.
tomchina123
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August 26th, 2015 at 8:31:27 PM permalink
hi, Wizard,

it is excited to read your replies. i am so in favour of your knowledge, even how you put english.

for this, i found it differs some to other vervions.

definitely, i will trust u more. i will use this version.

here comes the counting of CSM. i wanted to do it, and i read also the text from Stephanhow. when recommened by Eliot.

here it is how.

in macao, it is csm. guessed 52 cards are not shuffled(Stephanhow say it is 12 cards), each time, new discarded cards are put in, it is at the down of the 52 cards.
i say it is about 52 cards, it is by guessing as my being previous industrial designer. i tried to search a lot on this from internet, but no good info. so i made this guessing: each hand can be about 4 cards, then 8*4=32 cards. for safety reason, they should put more cards, so about 52. and the chute should fed by how many dicarded cards are put in. because the chute cannot read how many cards are left in it. maybe i am wrong, but i should have designed the csm like this.

for your kind chart, i will appoint 2345678910A as 0.7 0.8 1.1 1.5 1.4 0.4 0 -0.4 -0.9 -0.9, maybe i will put 10 into 1, then other number is enlarged by the rate. i will count . x for sure, because it is running count of only one hand.

we just count the cards of last hand for the reference of next hand. and in macao, the game is extremely slow. also i can wait till good counts come.

when in last hand, many small cards, in more percentage, left big cards, then i put in wagers, i just need like 0.5 % of advantage.

what do u think? i am not good at maths and coding and software. but if i have it, i will test it by many. like if +4, if i put 1 hand of 4 units, or 2 hands of 2 units or 4 hands of 1 unit. to test which is better.

could u help to let me know your advice as a professional?

also later on, i will try to write some things in your forums on all betting systems. and my thought on law of number with questions, please also be kind enough to read and answer, thanks.