Cheating dealers in Wendover?

After a recent trip to wendover i would like to know peoples opinions on dealers' tactics. Because when i first got there i was killing it. The dealer rotations seemed normal (a dealer change every 30 or so minutes) and after the second dealer i was up over double my original money. Then a third dealer came in and everything went to shit. This one stayed at the table for over an hour and nobody won big. Was it simply that my luck ran out? Was he a cheating dealer? Did the casino send this demon of a dealer in because they saw i was winning and why would they have him stay so long instead of rotating in an different dealer like normal? I would like to know if casinos/dealers cheat or use tactics like this to screw with a winning player. Thanks

There are many reasons why dealers will be changed throughout the night, and precious few of them have to do with the players. You'll get a lot of dealer changes around shift change time, not all dealers can deal all games so the ones with more game knowledge will get moved more as games are opened, later at night games are being shut down and certain dealers get to go home, sometimes a dealer asks to go home early because they have other events going on, etc. These things happen all the time, they aren't a big deal. But most of the time a dealer change occurs, it is because the dealer is due for a break.

You likely just had bad luck during that period of time. The vast majority of dealers do not cheat. All dealers occasionally make mistakes (even the ones at Caesar's, Bellagio, etc), we're not trying to cheat you. The casino doesn't need to cheat you. The casino has the power of statistics on their side.

Yup, there isn't any way that a new dealer will impact your game just by switching in. Everyone has trips that don't go well, it's part of gambling. In most cases you'd have to play for many hundreds, if not, thousands of hours to determine if there is cheating going on.

It is highly unlikely that the casino would cheat. There's too much to lose and not a lot to gain. A dealer may cheat for a number of reasons but would be more apt to cheat the house, again very unlikely.

Ok thanks for the responses. It just seemed fishy that my bad luck happened to be on the guy that dealt at the table for over an hour while the others were only about 30 min each. So theres no regulations on how long or short a dealer can stay at a table? I thought there was. I guess next time my luck turns south ill go to a different table

There are no regulatory restrictions placed, there are just corporate guidelines on how long a dealer should be on the floor before getting a break. Most places in Vegas use 1 hour, but many places around the country use 1 hour & 20 minutes. Exceptions are plentiful though.

I suspect dealers were doing hours. When you were winning and having a blast, it felt like 30 minutes. When the "demon dealer from hell" dealt, he was also there for 60 minutes...but felt like much longer 'cuz you were getting blown up.

I've never heard of a store having a rotation/push based off of 30-minute intervals.



Yeah, they almost never change dealers because someone is winning. If there's a big player and he's up $50K, they might switch out a dealer if the boss is a retard (this isn't too uncommon).

But it's usually because someone gets sick or calls in or they get an EO. Then rotation is based on who can deal what, their skill, etc. You're not going to put a roulette-learning dealer on a game with chunky green action.

Preferential shuffling isnt uncommon at the non peppermill wendover properties.

I've seen dealers called in to handle specific situations before; down at Rincon, there was a PGP dealer who once complained to me that he was called in on his day off to take care of a player doing hands in the low thousands.

And I don't remember where this was, but I once had a double deck game that had five dealers in two hands.

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After a recent trip to wendover i would like to know peoples opinions on dealers' tactics. Because when i first got there i was killing it. The dealer rotations seemed normal (a dealer change every 30 or so minutes) and after the second dealer i was up over double my original money. Then a third dealer came in and everything went to shit. This one stayed at the table for over an hour and nobody won big. Was it simply that my luck ran out? Was he a cheating dealer? Did the casino send this demon of a dealer in because they saw i was winning and why would they have him stay so long instead of rotating in an different dealer like normal? I would like to know if casinos/dealers cheat or use tactics like this to screw with a winning player. Thanks

Was it a pitch game? If so, look for peeking and second dealing.