mcallister3200
mcallister3200
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March 13th, 2015 at 10:48:29 AM permalink
I occasionally play lucky ladies on a double deck if the count is right and no queen of hearts is out, hit the big payoff one time. Had a backoff that may have been attributed to it once, but may not have been the reason as I had already been backed off at that chain and was spreading relatively aggressively as I like to do. In my first year or so of counting and on a small bank I had access to over/under with a $25 max bet and great pen and used a specialized count for that. Most definitely generated heat targeting that.

I'd just like to point out that there have been a couple examples quoting an increased EV of $X per hour while using hi lo, and that is not going to be entirely accurate in the real world. Per 100 hands it will be correct, but playing the sidebet absolutely will slow the game speed down and decrease hands per hour, particularly if you are playing heads up.
mcallister3200
mcallister3200
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March 13th, 2015 at 11:11:15 AM permalink
If you do have access to over/under 13, the Ubalo count by BRH kicks the crap out of the crush count, even in running count mode, the accuracy on over is uncanny. I miss that bet, super low variance.
bigplayer
bigplayer
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March 18th, 2015 at 5:18:40 PM permalink
sometimes playing these side bets are a trap. For instance if you play the Lucky Ladies for $25 in very high counts you probably should make an occasional $5 bet off the top of a fresh shoe. Many side bets can go positive if you have the right info. The original version (9/1) of 21+3, Royal Match, and many others if you're able to track suits played. The casinos in Minneapolis have the Over/Under but protect it by requiring players to bet no more than they would on their regular blackjack bet which means betting the under for real money just doesn't happen so they use the Over 13 bets to spot counters. Casinos can do the same with Lucky Ladies. Some players have gotten around this by simply knowing when a Queen of Hearts is going to be their first card. That shifts the odds considerably and enables them to make the wager in negative counts.

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