onenickelmiracle
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February 21st, 2015 at 10:00:16 AM permalink
Dealer errors seem to be good businesS in some ways. Say you gamble $1000 a session. One place shorts you needing argument and one overpaid. Same overpayment as comp or incentive might be seen as an insult, but as a mistake you feel good and want to go back. They should do this more intentionally by dealer discretion.

Can't be cheating taking it and I would keep playing hoping they would err again. Edit: within reason as a small proportion to stake or buyin. Too much, you feel uncomfortable and want to leave before they sue you etc.
In the land of the blind, the man with one eye is the care taker. Hold my beer.
Sandybestdog
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March 5th, 2015 at 8:00:50 AM permalink
One time I got a pair and split them. Both hands ended at 17. The dealer also drew to a 17. As she's settling the bets, she takes my chips. I immediately pointed out that we both had 17. She looks at the cards still on the table and says OK. By this time the pit boss had walked over. The dealer then proceeded to put my two chips back and then take two more and pay those two. Since there was already a mistake that was being settled, the pit boss watching and 4 others at the table watching, I figured I didn't want any more attention and said no ma'am, we both had 17, it's a push. Everybody at the table goes wow, he's so honest and the pit boss gives me a little nod. It's not about being honest, it's about what you can get away with.

The other day I was playing Ultimate Texas Hold'Em. I got a flush and the dealer proceeds to pay my ante and bet and then goes to the blind and starts dropping a bunch of chips. I'm trying to figure out what's going on when I realize he's was looking at the pay table for the trips bet(which I had not made). I just sat there and didn't say anything and nobody else did either. I figured I would leave the chips there until he either realized his mistake or went on to the next player. Well then he proceeds to take all of my chips and stack them on top of each other and push them to me. At this point I just grabbed them. Two hands later, the guy next to me gets a straight and the same thing happens. Just after his bet is settled and he grabs his chips, the pit boss walks over and casually grabs his two cards from the discard tray, looks at the player and asks for 3 chips back. The guy just said he thought they couldn't ask for them once they were paid out. Again the pit boss asks for them and he gives them back. He kind of had a guilty look on his face. The key is to just play dumb. Act like you didn't know what was going on. A few hands later I get another flush and the dealer goes to do the same thing but the pit boss is right there watching. When he starts dropping the chips, I said no this pays $7.50 on the blind. I figure I got lucky once and shouldn't push it.

I think dealer error pays are on a different level than if a cashier at a store gave you too much change. There's no way they can count the whole chip tray in relation to the bets to see if it was short. Gambling is me against the house and I'll certainly use all legal means necessary to try to come out ahead. They're making plenty off of the idiots playing slots that I don't care about an error or two.
Baccaratfrom79
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March 5th, 2015 at 8:10:14 AM permalink
Not cheating by any means, there was no collusion. However, my experiences at this is that those chips will become tainted. Don't know why but every time that happens at the baccarat table, just about a certainty that the next 10 hands will be lost.
Bac79=Hazardous Material and Chemical person correcting other's mistakes. Non AP'er, I can't count cards, low intelligence. Sprinkles magical dust on the cards. Has a lucky monkey. Baby also has a green one. Sum it up: "It's okay just blame me, it's all my fault"! ( No one believes me--so I chose to stop posting)
AxelWolf
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March 5th, 2015 at 8:36:38 AM permalink
Quote: Baccaratfrom79

However, my experiences at this is that those chips will become tainted.

That's hocus pocus but if it makes you feel better then give them back I wouldn't fault you either way.

I don't think it has anything to do with honesty as a person. I know some people who in every other aspect of their life are very honest but in this situation they wouldn't say anything.

I feel it's different if its a cashier. I feel bad for that individual because they will get in more trouble and possibly have to pay it back or even lose their job.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
Baccaratfrom79
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March 5th, 2015 at 9:05:56 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

That's hocus pocus but if it makes you feel better then give them back I wouldn't fault you either way.

I don't think it has anything to do with honesty as a person. I know some people who in every other aspect of their life are very honest but in this situation they wouldn't say anything.

I feel it's different if its a cashier. I feel bad for that individual because they will get in more trouble and possibly have to pay it back or even lose their job.



No, you are right and I give back when a cashier does it outside the casino. Somehow when this happens in bac, especially at a small midi table if you are on first base the shoe has a habit of covering the bets from dealers view, my 'saved' chips usually never win after that. It's all good.
Bac79=Hazardous Material and Chemical person correcting other's mistakes. Non AP'er, I can't count cards, low intelligence. Sprinkles magical dust on the cards. Has a lucky monkey. Baby also has a green one. Sum it up: "It's okay just blame me, it's all my fault"! ( No one believes me--so I chose to stop posting)
sc15
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March 5th, 2015 at 12:09:19 PM permalink
Quote: Baccaratfrom79

No, you are right and I give back when a cashier does it outside the casino. Somehow when this happens in bac, especially at a small midi table if you are on first base the shoe has a habit of covering the bets from dealers view, my 'saved' chips usually never win after that. It's all good.



Seeing how you're a successful business owner, I can't believe you believe that crap.

Normally it's uneducated people in the poorhouse that make statements like that, because math clearly disproves those types of theories. And I know you understand math, because if you didn't you would run your business into the ground in no time.
Beardgoat
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March 5th, 2015 at 12:31:44 PM permalink
Perfectly normal and smart people sometimes think irrationally in a casino. I am guilty myself. I swear a 7 is rolled like 90% of the time immediately following when dice go off the table.
nvr55xx
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March 6th, 2015 at 9:15:22 AM permalink
Quote: 1BB

Always cover yourself. Never tip a dealer that makes mistakes in your favor.



I'm not sure that I totally agree with your statement. I suggest that if a dealer makes a mistake in your favor (eg. paying out your 20 vs. dealer 20), then wait a few hands until they pay you correctly (eg. paying your 21 vs. dealer 20) and leaving a tip for "that hand". Any thoughts?
VPPlayer
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March 11th, 2015 at 12:43:53 AM permalink
I'm a craps player, and the following has occurred:

- Been overpaid on a winner
- A losing bet wasn't collected
- I was paid on a losing bet
- I bought in for $300 and was given $400 in chips

In every situation I just collected the money. Of course when I was underpaid, I did point that out.

The casino wants to take every penny you have, and they are willing to get you drunk in order to do it. Take what you can get (but don't cheat obviously).

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