Change It 21
September 23rd, 2014 at 4:09:20 AM
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I saw a new game at the Fremont yesterday called Change It 21. It is based on conventional blackjack but the player can swap one of his initial two cards for a fee of half his bet. I wrote up what little I know on my Odds site.
Does anyone know who is behind it?
Does anyone know who is behind it?
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
September 23rd, 2014 at 6:34:31 AM
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Don't know who's behind it, but the article needs some minor clarifications.
I assume the fee is just that: a fee that goes right into the rack and not part of the bet. If the "fee" gets added to the bet, then changing the rag when dealt Ace-rag might be an advantage play, even at 6:5.
On the flip side,
Any plans for a strategy grid on the change option?
I assume the fee is just that: a fee that goes right into the rack and not part of the bet. If the "fee" gets added to the bet, then changing the rag when dealt Ace-rag might be an advantage play, even at 6:5.
On the flip side,
Gotta get that cleared up. If its a "fee", then it damn well better pay as a BJ - particularly if its only 6:5!Quote:I am not sure if a blackjack after switching pays 6-5 or is treated as 21 points.
Any plans for a strategy grid on the change option?
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September 23rd, 2014 at 7:46:35 AM
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Quote: DJTeddyBearI assume the fee is just that: a fee that goes right into the rack and not part of the bet. If the "fee" gets added to the bet, then changing the rag when dealt Ace-rag might be an advantage play, even at 6:5.
I did say that the fee is "completely non-refundable." It does go right into the dealer's rack when she takes the discarded card.
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September 23rd, 2014 at 1:37:32 PM
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For the fee, does the player put out half his bet like an insurance bet, or is his wager broken in half like a surrender? I.E., if I pay to switch and still lose, have I lost one unit or one and a half?
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September 23rd, 2014 at 2:04:54 PM
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My guess would be you are playing the second chance with the remaining 1/2 of your original bet. So, if you win, you in essence will win to get you 'back to even'. Since you have the advantage of knowing what one of your cards already is, that would be your advantage.
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September 23rd, 2014 at 2:08:16 PM
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New Game: “CHANGE IT 21”
Live Game Developer: CHANGE IT GAMES, LLC
Trial Location: FREMONT HOTEL AND CASINO
200 FREMONT ST
LAS VEGAS, NV 89101
Field Trial Start Date: SEPTEMBER 17, 2014
The field trial of “Change It 21” is limited to 45 days; however the trial period may be extended up to 180 days, if necessary. Further questions regarding this matter should be directed to the Enforcement Division’s Operations Unit at (702) 486-2020.
CHANGE IT GAMES LLC JEFFREY J WHITEHEAD ESQ is their attorney What else could he be with a minoker like that LOL
Live Game Developer: CHANGE IT GAMES, LLC
Trial Location: FREMONT HOTEL AND CASINO
200 FREMONT ST
LAS VEGAS, NV 89101
Field Trial Start Date: SEPTEMBER 17, 2014
The field trial of “Change It 21” is limited to 45 days; however the trial period may be extended up to 180 days, if necessary. Further questions regarding this matter should be directed to the Enforcement Division’s Operations Unit at (702) 486-2020.
CHANGE IT GAMES LLC JEFFREY J WHITEHEAD ESQ is their attorney What else could he be with a minoker like that LOL
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September 26th, 2014 at 2:05:14 AM
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I met one of the game owners tonight. He confirmed that if you dump a card and make a blackjack out of it then you automatically get paid 6-5.
For example, get dealt 16 and toss the 6 and get an ace, you now have a blackjack. Split aces are still just 21 if they receive a face.
For example, get dealt 16 and toss the 6 and get an ace, you now have a blackjack. Split aces are still just 21 if they receive a face.
August 27th, 2015 at 7:03:43 PM
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Sorry to waken an old thread but I finally wrapped up my page on Change It 21. To be honest, I don't know if the Fremont even offers the game any longer. It came along at a bad time for me, thus the reason for taking over a year to get it off my desk.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
August 27th, 2015 at 7:49:36 PM
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"Astute reader"?Quote: Wizard's articleThe astute reader should conclude his odds are much better off in conventional blackjack, as long as a blackjack pays 3 to 2.
Change that to 'any reader who has half a brain'.
I think the article is good.
The game, not so much...
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August 27th, 2015 at 9:43:09 PM
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hi£¬ Wizard,
i wanted to know it, but i couldn't.
i have 2 questions:
1) blackjack of 16 of 3 cards or more Vs deal's 10.
macao rule, 6 decks, csm, stand soft 17. not early or late surrender, no surrender to A, Das at any, not resplit A,
you said very clearly it is to stand.
i trust it and i trust u very much. but i met this situation too many times. and most of others never mentioned this or they will say: hit.
so you are sure it is to stand?
2) macao rule, 14 V deal 10. it is to surrender? if so, it seems it is only in Macao?
by the way, any chance you will come to Macao?
Tom
i wanted to know it, but i couldn't.
i have 2 questions:
1) blackjack of 16 of 3 cards or more Vs deal's 10.
macao rule, 6 decks, csm, stand soft 17. not early or late surrender, no surrender to A, Das at any, not resplit A,
you said very clearly it is to stand.
i trust it and i trust u very much. but i met this situation too many times. and most of others never mentioned this or they will say: hit.
so you are sure it is to stand?
2) macao rule, 14 V deal 10. it is to surrender? if so, it seems it is only in Macao?
by the way, any chance you will come to Macao?
Tom
August 27th, 2015 at 9:53:05 PM
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another one is csm counting, i started a thread on it, but no really good answers,
here i reask u by a clearer way:
macao rule as above.
counting only last hand, i play only one hand, maybe there are others in the table. maybe i am alone.40 units bankroll
i play one unit when it is less than +2 as running count( maybe stop for some hands when it is - too much) , i paly 2 units at +3+4, 3 units at +5 and above.
will i win for long time by maths?
Tom.
here i reask u by a clearer way:
macao rule as above.
counting only last hand, i play only one hand, maybe there are others in the table. maybe i am alone.40 units bankroll
i play one unit when it is less than +2 as running count( maybe stop for some hands when it is - too much) , i paly 2 units at +3+4, 3 units at +5 and above.
will i win for long time by maths?
Tom.
August 28th, 2015 at 6:12:55 AM
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Tom, in the future, please don't hijack threads by asking off topic questions.
To briefly answer your questions, the general rule is if you have a 16 composed of 3 or more cards, against a 10, then stand. This goes for any set of rules.
That sounds like enough of a spread to make money counting, but don't they always use a CSM in Macau?
Please make a new thread should you wish to reply.
To briefly answer your questions, the general rule is if you have a 16 composed of 3 or more cards, against a 10, then stand. This goes for any set of rules.
That sounds like enough of a spread to make money counting, but don't they always use a CSM in Macau?
Please make a new thread should you wish to reply.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
August 28th, 2015 at 6:22:18 AM
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hi, Wizard,
i see, i will wait for some days, because i can only put threads allowed by days, i have put 3.
in Macau, all are csm. though i see only 0.5% play basic strategy.
thanks again.
Tom.
i see, i will wait for some days, because i can only put threads allowed by days, i have put 3.
in Macau, all are csm. though i see only 0.5% play basic strategy.
thanks again.
Tom.
September 23rd, 2015 at 5:01:10 PM
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I was at Fremont today. Change it 21 is still there. It was not open this afternoon though.
