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-now is over $100,000, NO SIDE BET, min bet is $5 and USA + Canada OK.
There is something more you should know about, PM me and lets talk :)
let me guess... you have to get four suited aces.Quote: PlayHunterI think I've just found an amazing +EV Progressive Blackjack Jackpot:
-now is over $100,000, NO SIDE BET, min bet is $5 and USA + Canada OK.
There is something more you should know about, PM me and lets talk :)
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/blackjack/19551-3-sevens-of-diamond-odds/
That's a lot of grinding at $5 bets.
Romes I don't think my post should be considered spam, because I'm not spelling any casino name?
But OK, if any mod/admin feels my post should be adjusted I am fine with that, no problem.
Quote: PlayHunterdwheatley is correct its about hitting 3 suited sevens... but there is something even better that adds to that deal!
Assuming 6 decks... 6/312 * 5/312 * 4/312 = Probability of hitting 3 suited seven of diamonds = .01923 * .01603 * .01282 = .00000395 ~= 1/250,000
At $5 a hand, assuming a HE of .5... You're losing 2.5 cents per bet. If it took you 250,000 $5 bets to get there you'd already be losing 250,000 * (-.025) = -6250. This isn't even going in to detail on how big of a bankroll you'd need to withstand even the minimum bet swings of $5 at 250,000 hands.
Let's assume you can play 100 hands per hour, since it's online... That would still take 250,000/100 = 2,500 hours. Assuming you do this FULL TIME (8 hours per day) this would take you 312.5 days.
Oh, and all of this is online where 99% of the casino's have it written in that they can just not pay you, take your money, etc, and you can't legally do anything about it... Especially if it's overseas.
So basically, it's an AMAZING deal if you want to spend almost an entire year, AVERAGING -$6,250 to try to win the "INSANE Value!!!" jackpot, which you probably wouldn't be paid out on anyways... IF no one else hits it.
EDIT - Common sense people. If it really was that 'amazing' of a deal to win $100,000 on a progressive jackpot... Why the hell would you ever share it in hopes that someone else would hit the progressive and ruin it? ...Just someone trying to drive traffic to an online gambling site from a gambling forums.
I hope the "something better" is some advice saying you can get a guaranteed $50k/year with a degree and a job... FOR DECADES! Now that's some INSANE Value!!! =)
Quote: Romes
I hope the "something better" is some advice saying you can get a guaranteed $50k/year with a degree and a job... FOR DECADES! Now that's some INSANE Value!!! =)
Sounds great! But what's the catch? You have to play the game for 8 hours a day? ;-)
I'm playing in it as much as I can and I stand my chances for a shot at about a *$45-50/hour +EV. For me, that is BIG for a $5/bet!
*ofcourse if you don't hit the jackpot you'll most likely have burnt a few thousands in a few months!
No one can guarantee you will win this pot, unless you are the only one person playing it, but guess what? -Hardly you can catch a free seat at the tables! Ofcourse you can play for months (losing some grands) and some new guy next to you hit it in his first played hand! And then who you blame? The luck of the guy next to you? Your luck? -No! You knew your chances from the start.
Quote: PlayHunterRomes, I think you try to make it look worse than it is on purpose. I'll tell you what I know:
I'm playing in it as much as I can and I stand my chances for a shot at about a *$45-50/hour +EV. For me, that is BIG for a $5/bet!
*ofcourse if you don't hit the jackpot you'll most likely have burnt a few thousands in a few months!
No one can guarantee you will win this pot, unless you are the only one person playing it, but guess what? -Hardly you can catch a free seat at the tables! Ofcourse you can play for months (losing some grands) and some new guy next to you hit it in his first played hand! And then who you blame? The luck of the guy next to you? Your luck? -No! You knew your chances from the start.
I have to say, I agree that this is great if the numbers are as you say. The swings are tiny; I have no idea what Romes is talking about there. You can probably do this on a bankroll in the $10k or $20k range. The hourly EV is massive for a bankroll that small.
The only concern is not getting paid. Honestly with this much EV I think that it's worth the risk unless it is a known bad casino.
Quote: PlayHunterI am an old customer and never had a problem.
Out of curiosity... ever had to cash out 6 figures before? How'd that go?
Dieter, honestly no. Always four figures (and usually at the low end). But fast payments always makes me feel comfortable.
That's the only thing that made sense to me. So I asked. I won't revile the answer.
Anyways, I don't care about that, if he REALLY believes this casino is 100% reputable, then He is telling us about a possible +EV situation, I don't mind if he gets A commission, if that's the case. If it was a -EV play and he was trying to get anything from it , I think that it should be considered spam.
My biggest concern is the reputation of the casino(WILL YOU GET PAID)
I would NEVER trust the BJ at any non US gaming approved online casino( Especially for big bets). Would I grind small bets, for a nice bonus, with low wagering requirements? ABSOLUTELY, I have beat obviously gaffed online casino using bonuses.
Ax, assuming they have a fair reputation, I have the perfect person to grind this if you want to take a shot, I'll go in with you on it. I have a way you can be comfortable knowing you would get paid if the player hit it.
I would like to ask for the MODS to allow this guy to post his affiliate link or code if he has one. This way the Name is out in the open and we can research the place as a group so no one gets to burned whit a total ripp-off joint. He might be conformable saying the name knowing he will get a fee, IF he is getting a commission or bonus.
I think since it's possibly Plus EV and a few people might be interested, it cant hurt to make an exception. Also i don't see any competition banners on this site.
Lets cut out the Cloak and Dagger /PM him junk.
Quote: AxelWolf
I would like to ask for the MODS to allow this guy to post his affiliate link or code if he has one. This way the Name is out in the open and we can research the place as a group so no one gets to burned whit a total ripp-off joint. He might be conformable saying the name knowing he will get a fee, IF he is getting a commission or bonus.
I think since it's possibly Plus EV and a few people might be interested, it cant hurt to make an exception. Also i don't see any competition banners on this site.
Lets cut out the Cloak and Dagger /PM him junk.
It seems that he genuinely wants to make people aware of a +EV play, and it doesn't appear he will personally profit from getting the name out there...plus he's been a Member for awhile, so sure.
What I meant by "there is something even better" is that I've found www(dot)GamblingCity(dot)com (a gambling portal) which has a great cash back deal (for life): if a player signs up at a casino / bookmaker / poker room through it, then it will refund the player with a percent of up to 20% (but for 5Dimes is only up to 10%) of his monthly loses for each casino / bookmaker / poker room.
So I see this combination as a great addition to cut players loses in case they will not hit this huge progressive blackjack jackpot.
I did not wanted to spell 5Dimes because I wanted to guide people to sign up through Gambling City (because they need to do so in order to qualify for the cash back deal scheme), making this whole proposition even more profitable for them.
And I also wanted to avoid my post being seen as spam. Sorry if my idea was laid out wrong, this was not my intention.
As for the question of whether I gain something or not out of this, yes, by referring players through Gambling City I earn a commission (only if the player is nice enough to use my referral code number: 2835 at "Reffered by: Member ID:" field, when registering for the cash back scheme). Also any Gambling City member can refer new players and gain commissions in the very same way.
5Dimes has a good reputation and has been around for years, over 10. They used to have FPDW @ the .25 - $5 level with bonuses and stuff.Quote: PlayHunterMission146 thank you. I'll quickly explain everything. The website is www(dot)5Dimes(dot)eu - I don't gain anything from them.
What I meant by "there is something even better" is that I've found www(dot)GamblingCity(dot)com (a gambling portal) which has a great cash back deal (for life): if a player signs up at a casino / bookmaker / poker room through it, then it will refund the player with a percent of up to 20% (but for 5Dimes is only up to 10%) of his monthly loses for each casino / bookmaker / poker room.
So I see this combination as a great addition to cut players loses in case they will not hit this huge progressive blackjack jackpot.
I did not wanted to spell 5Dimes because I wanted to guide people to sign up through Gambling City (because they need to do so in order to qualify for the cash back deal scheme), making this whole proposition even more pro fitable for them.
And I also wanted to avoid my post being seen as spam. Sorry if my idea was laid out wrong, this was not my intention.
As for the question of whether I gain something or not out of this, yes, by referring players through Gambling City I earn a commission (only if the player is nice enough to use my referral code number: 2835 at "Reffered by: Member ID:" field, when registering for the cash back scheme). Also any Gambling City member can refer players and gain commissions in the same way.
They had a bump in the road in the past. But they cleared that up(I think) and they will back off sharp bettors who bet to high.
I'm confident you would get paid(RNG CONFIDENCE? not so much).
What's the monthly/weekly cashing out limits in the casino? Will it take months to get your money ?
They have CRAZY VP games including one where u get = small pays for every hand including a Royal. probably +EV
PS. I still can't get the java bonus casino to work.
Axiom you in? Seriously. I can set something up and someone solid to play.Quote: AxelWolf5Dimes has a good reputation and has been around for years, over 10. They used to have FPDW @ the .25 - $5 level with bonuses and stuff.Quote: PlayHunterMission146 thank you. I'll quickly explain everything. The website is www(dot)5Dimes(dot)eu - I don't gain anything from them.
What I meant by "there is something even better" is that I've found www(dot)GamblingCity(dot)com (a gambling portal) which has a great cash back deal (for life): if a player signs up at a casino / bookmaker / poker room through it, then it will refund the player with a percent of up to 20% (but for 5Dimes is only up to 10%) of his monthly loses for each casino / bookmaker / poker room.
So I see this combination as a great addition to cut players loses in case they will not hit this huge progressive blackjack jackpot.
I did not wanted to spell 5Dimes because I wanted to guide people to sign up through Gambling City (because they need to do so in order to qualify for the cash back deal scheme), making this whole proposition even more pro fitable for them.
And I also wanted to avoid my post being seen as spam. Sorry if my idea was laid out wrong, this was not my intention.
As for the question of whether I gain something or not out of this, yes, by referring players through Gambling City I earn a commission (only if the player is nice enough to use my referral code number: 2835 at "Reffered by: Member ID:" field, when registering for the cash back scheme). Also any Gambling City member can refer players and gain commissions in the same way.
They had a bump in the road in the past. But they cleared that up(I think) and they will back off sharp bettors who bet to high.
I'm confident you would get paid(RNG CONFIDENCE? not so much).
What's the monthly/weekly cashing out limits in the casino? Will it take months to get your money ?
They have CRAZY VP games including one where u get = small pays for every hand including a Royal. probably +EV
PS. I still can't get the java bonus casino to work.
You going to split your commission with us?Quote: PlayHunterMission146 thank you. I'll quickly explain everything. The website is www(dot)5Dimes(dot)eu - I don't gain anything from them.
What I meant by "there is something even better" is that I've found www(dot)GamblingCity(dot)com (a gambling portal) which has a great cash back deal (for life): if a player signs up at a casino / bookmaker / poker room through it, then it will refund the player with a percent of up to 20% (but for 5Dimes is only up to 10%) of his monthly loses for each casino / bookmaker / poker room.
So I see this combination as a great addition to cut players loses in case they will not hit this huge progressive blackjack jackpot.
I did not wanted to spell 5Dimes because I wanted to guide people to sign up through Gambling City (because they need to do so in order to qualify for the cash back deal scheme), making this whole proposition even more profitable for them.
And I also wanted to avoid my post being seen as spam. Sorry if my idea was laid out wrong, this was not my intention.
As for the question of whether I gain something or not out of this, yes, by referring players through Gambling City I earn a commission (only if the player is nice enough to use my referral code number: 2835 at "Reffered by: Member ID:" field, when registering for the cash back scheme). Also any Gambling City member can refer new players and gain commissions in the very same way.
If I am going to split my commission with every player I refer, is not supposed to be so, but everyone can refer on his turn too.
I would advice to read the full Gambling City Cash Back rules (these are not too long) and you will see how it all works exactly.
Quote: AxelWolfAxiom you in? Seriously. I can set something up and someone solid to play.
Interested in what? Playing? No. Bankrolling this venture? You have more money than I do; why do you want me in on this?
Quote: sabre5dimes has dealt rigged games in the past. When caught, they issued no statement nor refunds. I'll pass.
Awww You can trust them this time. Like it's only 100 K. They really didn't mean to cheat before. It just happened.
Quote: sabre5dimes has dealt rigged games in the past. When caught, they issued no statement nor refunds. I'll pass.
Quote: BuzzardAwww You can trust them this time. Like it's only 100 K. They really didn't mean to cheat before. It just happened.
I truly believe the -$6k and YEAR (not months...even at 8 hours/day) it'll take to "try" to hit the jackpot is only the 1st half of the problem. $9k payouts and who knows what kind of BS rules they'll bring up to keep the money in play. It wouldn't surprise me if a) you didn't get paid, or b) it took another year to cash the money out.
Sorry if I called it right and he's trying to drive traffic to an online gambling site from an online gambling community for a commission. If you're a professional and know how to do this at that level I guess you can deal with the headache if you want to, but for any amateur who see's "100k jackpot!!!" just stay away. You don't know what you're doing nor how much of a headache it's really going to be. Might as well put 100 hour work weeks in at $10/hour and make $50k.
I apologize if anyone thinks I'm being harsh/rude/etc, but I feel like he's just being a salesman trying to collect his commission, which makes this a spam post (in my opinion) which is bringing down the quality of the threads in this forum.
you made it sound that if it was legit, it was pretty good and you would be interested. No not asking you to bankroll it just invest. I was thinking anyone that was interested could invest. I doubt you or me would want to spend time playing so I offerd you a way to get value and action. It would be more fun letting members sweat the action than anything else.Quote: AxiomOfChoiceInterested in what? Playing? No. Bankrolling this venture? You have more money than I do; why do you want me in on this?
Quote: AxelWolfyou made it sound that if it was legit, it was pretty good and you would be interested. No not asking you to bankroll it just invest. I was thinking anyone that was interested could invest. I doubt you or me would want to spend time playing so I offerd you a way to get value and action. It would be more fun letting members sweat the action than anything else.
How is "bankroll" different from "invest"?
I think that there is probably value here, although I'd have to see the exact rules to be sure. Also the guy playing would have to know what he is doing.
There are too many unknowns here... I don't know the guy playing, and I don't know how easy it is to cash out once you win. Don't a lot of these places have small cashout limits per week or month or whatever?
I have used them for years and NEVER had a problem getting paid and for amounts there were not that far off from the 100k
bankrolling it implies when you put up all the money for someone to play, ussully somone who can't afford it or dose not want to risk anything. Kind of like a backer. It's a common term used among APs. IE Axiom is bankrolling Bob and his roulette system. And you know what investing means. Usually APs just say they have or want action, or I want 50% of the action.Quote: AxiomOfChoiceHow is "bankroll" different from "invest"?
I think that there is probably value here, although I'd have to see the exact rules to be sure. Also the guy playing would have to know what he is doing.
There are too many unknowns here... I don't know the guy playing, and I don't know how easy it is to cash out once you win. Don't a lot of these places have small cashout limits per week or month or whatever?
Go look up 5D and research it. I am confident they will pay. Tons of Professional sports bettors use the site. I know someone who has hit 3 20k royals. I have cashed out successfully myself many occasions in the past. I have had an account for many years.
The cash out limits are nothing to be worried about as long as you get your money and have value.
As far as the person playing, I can 100% vouch for him, you could chat and meet with him when you come to vegas. He can use a strategy card. You could even watch them play via Skype or something to make sure they are spot on.
Obviously there are other things that woukd need to be talked about, I was not suggesting anyone jumping in right this minute.
I'm not trying to convince you im just explaining some logistics.
Something more about this superb Progressive Blackjack Jackpot: right now it is very close to $125,000 !!! And 0.3% of every dollar bet on the qualifying tables is added to the jackpot pool - with 24/7 action, on average it rises the jackpot with $1,000+ every day.
djatc & Romes, if you would have read my posts, you would have seen that I have not posted any links and specified that nobody is forced to submit my referral code. But since anyway they need to sign up at Gambling City if they want to cut their loses with 10%, why not submit my referral code if that cost them effectively nothing? -Spamming? -My advice actually improves people odds!
To anyone who might be concerned about the 5Dime payout procedure, this is on their website: "Payout requests submitted within the corresponding processing time frame for each method, will be sent out within 24-48 hours after entered in the system."
So if you win, at worse I believe you will be paid at a rate of $18,000 per week. It means that in less than 3 months you should have received your small fortune in full. OK, there are some fees, but I believe nobody gets hurt if pays 1K or so to pocket $125K?
Come there and play guys, this is your chance at hitting a small fortune. All you need is 3x7D. No side bet!
Quote: WBGambleWhat are the odds of actually hitting it? I'm not sure it's even +EV. They are cutting off 4+ decks out of 6.
You can see in the rest of the thread it can be +EV, but you have to commit a lot of time, money, etc, to possibly get ripped off in the long run, or simply not win, etc.
All PH was doing was bumping the thread because it was getting low and he's trying to get a bonus for getting new players signed up. Others find this interesting, which is fine. I personally find this as spam.
It's both but if you like to play online its worth knowing about 5dimes is reputable. Not to mention people crushed their FPDW.Quote: RomesYou can see in the rest of the thread it can be +EV, but you have to commit a lot of time, money, etc, to possibly get ripped off in the long run, or simply not win, etc.
All PH was doing was bumping the thread because it was getting low and he's trying to get a bonus for getting new players signed up. Others find this interesting, which is fine. I personally find this as spam.
Quote: RomesYou can see in the rest of the thread it can be +EV, but you have to commit a lot of time, money, etc, to possibly get ripped off in the long run, or simply not win, etc.
All PH was doing was bumping the thread because it was getting low and he's trying to get a bonus for getting new players signed up. Others find this interesting, which is fine. I personally find this as spam.
It's spam within the rules of the board, so it's in a grey area. Been watching it, personally not interested, but it falls just short of a rules violation. For now. :)
Links please I would like to read up on it.Quote: sabre5dimes offered rigged games for years and when discovered, quietly pulled them without any statement. Reputable is the last thing I'd call them.
I don't know when this occurred,I know many People including myself did well on the FPDW and got paid.
TBH Rigged or not, I don't care, as long as I keep winning and get paid. Obviously stay away from something that rapeing you.
Quote: beachbumbabsIt's spam within the rules of the board, so it's in a grey area. It falls just short of a rules violation. For now. :)
beachbumbabs, thank you. I take this as a friendly warning from a Forum Admin. Will respect it and no longer update this thread. Though, one last related question I must ask you: - would have been better if the thread remained at the PM level as I have tried?
I had a fun day, PM me for details.
There is something happening, PM me for details.
Quote: AxelWolfLinks please I would like to read up on it.
Found this link from 2011...
http://triblive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/ae/gambling/s_768058.html#axzz3Fjpsxw8E
Quote: PlayHunterRomes, my bump was done with the thought that people that were not interested for the jackpot at $100K might now be interested at $150K. Maybe u're right and people just don't like to take +EV "shots", they just want "sure wins" as I've got no referrals til now.
beachbumbabs, thank you. I take this as a friendly warning from a Forum Admin. Will respect it and no longer update this thread. Though, one last related question I must ask you: - would have been better if the thread remained at the PM level as I have tried?
If you were PM'ing people with this, without their permission, you would be nuked.
Quote: Scooter77Found this link from 2011...
http://triblive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/ae/gambling/s_768058.html#axzz3Fjpsxw8E
Who is Norman Clem and is he a member here?
Assuming he wants his name out there if he is a member. Naturally privacy should be observed if requested.
Quote: PlayHunterbeachbumbabs, I must ask you: - would have been better if the thread remained at the PM level as I have tried?
Quote: beachbumbabsIf you were PM'ing people with this, without their permission, you would be nuked.
Not me PM'ing people about this type of deals without their permission, certainly that would not be nice from me. But just like I did in the start of this thread: like post a summary on what is all about without giving any names and ask people to PM me if interested.
(And be sure will not be like "I have a good promotion PM me" nonsense. - I'll provide an accurate description of what's going on.)