Tanko
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May 29th, 2014 at 6:34:36 PM permalink
Quote: richbailey86

I need this cleared up for me. In vegas if you are suspected of counting u get the boot. In AC u dont get the boot but u get heat. Right? What about CT?



I've played at Mohegan tables where they doubled the table limit and doubled it again when obvious card counters requested it.

That's how much they worry about counting.

They have a 61% penetration and they regard card counters as human ATM's.

You have nothing to worry about.
richbailey86
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May 29th, 2014 at 6:34:43 PM permalink
Quote: sodawater

It's not illegal to count cards anywhere in the U.S. So what if you're playing in a non-NJ casino and they ask you to leave? Is that the end of the world?

You should also check out PA's BJ games. There are table games all along the east coast now.

AC originally went to 4-deck shoes when the Uston decision came down. Now most games are 8-deck. It's got nothing to do with protected card counting and everything to do with greed and a historical lack of competition.



How are the PA casinos for this?
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May 29th, 2014 at 6:35:57 PM permalink
Quote: richbailey86

How are the PA casinos for this?



Better than AC.
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May 29th, 2014 at 6:37:26 PM permalink
Quote: sodawater

Better than AC.



Interesting. Better rules I guess

What PA casinos. Never knew PA had casinos...
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May 29th, 2014 at 6:45:18 PM permalink
Never knew pa allowed table games

God damn it NY whats wrong. We have a full casino in Queens just waiting for tables
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May 30th, 2014 at 3:34:44 AM permalink
Quote: AxiomOfChoice

That is nonsense. They exist only due to a compact with the state. Sovereign nation, my ass. If they were a sovereign nation they would be able to open a casino without such an agreement.



Mohegan Sun police just had their powers expanded by the state. They are now real cops. A similar agreement with Foxwoods is pending.
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May 30th, 2014 at 4:02:59 AM permalink
Quote: richbailey86

My goal is to be prepared and ready to go by fall. AC it is

Get counting completely out of your mind for the moment.

Learn basic strategy cold. So cold you don't even have to think about it.
Go to WoO and see the beautiful strategy cards the Wiz has made available, select the one for the specific rules such as 8 deck/stand 17. Practice by using flash cards, dealing actual cards or BS instructional software. Whatever works for you. Practice some more. BS can be mastered in an afternoon. When you feel you are ready, go to a casino, any casino, and play a low limit table, flat betting.

That exercise will convince you that you do not yet know basic strategy cold. Practice some more.
Rinse, repeat.

You will now understand two things: why you need to know BS cold so you are not thinking under actual casino conditions, and how hard counting will be if you don't know BS cold.
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May 30th, 2014 at 10:39:21 AM permalink
Quote: 1BB

Mohegan Sun police just had their powers expanded by the state. They are now real cops. A similar agreement with Foxwoods is pending.



That does not make them a sovereign nation. France is a sovereign nation. You will notice that their police do not need permission from a US state to be considered "real cops". That is what makes them sovereign -- they can do things like this without the permission of other nations.

They are still subject to the criminal laws of the state that they are in. Having to follow someone else's laws makes you not sovereign.

Didn't an Indian casino lose a huge lawsuit for detaining that little old lady after she found a quarter on the ground? The one who Bob N. represented. If they are sovereign, why did they have to answer to someone else's courts?
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June 5th, 2014 at 3:40:44 AM permalink
I guess spread matters

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