beemer1966
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May 6th, 2014 at 10:06:17 AM permalink
Hey all

Living in NJ I was just exploring the option of "online" BJ. I was looking at Borgada Casino NJ Single deck Blackjack and was using the Wizards house edge calculator based on the rules shown here:


What I came up with was a Optimal result of -0.10273%. Is this correct? I input the rules as best I understood them and came out with that result. Am I to assume a negative number is a slight player advantage under 100% basic rules? I am thinking I pooched on of the inputs but I double checked and it seems correct.

Can someone check my inputs?

rdw4potus
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May 6th, 2014 at 10:17:23 AM permalink
I get an edge of .31442%. 1 deck, dealer hits soft 17, double 9-11 only, split 1 time, no surrender, BJ pays 3:2. I assumed no DAS, but that'd make it slightly better if it were allowed.
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beemer1966
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May 6th, 2014 at 10:29:10 AM permalink
Ok,

So I missed the 9-11 only. Re-inputted that. I don't see an option input for no DAS. With the 9-11 fixed I still get Optimal at 0.06213% ?? What am I doing wrong?

Number of decks of cards used: 1
Dealer hits or stands on a soft 17: Hits
Player can double after a split: Yes
Player can double on: 9-11
Player can resplit to: 2 hands
Player can resplit aces: No
Player can hit split aces: Yes
Player loses only original bet against dealer BJ: Yes
Surrender rule: None
Blackjack pays: 3 to 2
rdw4potus
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May 6th, 2014 at 10:36:03 AM permalink
The rules don't mention whether a player can double after split (DAS). They also don't mention what happens with split aces. We're identical except for those two lines.
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May 6th, 2014 at 10:44:31 AM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

The rules don't mention whether a player can double after split (DAS). They also don't mention what happens with split aces. We're identical except for those two lines.



Lets assume you can DAS.

Also here is the blurb about split aces:
Quote:

If you split Aces, only one card will be dealt to each split hand. If a 10-point card is dealt to either Ace, the hand is counted as 21, not blackjack.



Basically Im trying to determine if the one deck game is better than the 6 deck.
beemer1966
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May 6th, 2014 at 10:47:09 AM permalink
EDIT:

yes looks like you CAN DAS:

Quote:

Doubling is also available, subject to having nine, 10 or 11, as an option after splitting.

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May 6th, 2014 at 10:47:43 AM permalink
OK. If I go to yes on DAS and keep hitting split aces at no (if you only get one additional card, you can't hit) then I get an optimal result of .19224% in the calculator.
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beemer1966
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May 6th, 2014 at 10:57:49 AM permalink
Hmm ok.

I was assuming "hit split aces" in the cals means getting the one card after the split. You are assuming the hitting means AFTER the one card which would then give us the correct .19224%. The term definition is a little ambiguous so I interpreted it as getting the one card AFTER the split was a hit.
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May 6th, 2014 at 11:00:44 AM permalink
By the way, in your link it is stated in the "Paytable" tab that "The theoretical return to player of this game is 98.39%." This would be a house edge of 1.61%; I guess their "theory" is that few players will use basic strategy.
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May 6th, 2014 at 11:08:59 AM permalink
Quote: ChesterDog

By the way, in your link it is stated in the "Paytable" tab that "The theoretical return to player of this game is 98.39%." This would be a house edge of 1.61%; I guess their "theory" is that few players will use basic strategy.



Yeah saw that as well. The "rules thing" and using the calculator is a bit of a grey area but a good guideline to "estimate" the odds. Yes, I took the 1.61% as NOT using basic strategy but I cannot assume that as we know they certainly won't state it.
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May 6th, 2014 at 11:26:57 AM permalink
Quote: beemer1966

Hmm ok.

I was assuming "hit split aces" in the cals means getting the one card after the split. You are assuming the hitting means AFTER the one card which would then give us the correct .19224%. The term definition is a little ambiguous so I interpreted it as getting the one card AFTER the split was a hit.



When you split, you have 1 card and you have a value of 1 or 11. You get 1 and only 1 additional card after that point. That doesn't count as hitting. But, if that 1 additional card is a 3, you're stuck with 14 no matter how much you want a 3rd card.
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