Mathematically Challenged
January 8th, 2014 at 8:31:53 PM
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Player gains a benefit of 0.23% if allowed to double on any number of cards in 8 deck game.
What is the benefit if he can double down on any hand with an ACE in it ?
10,6,A or 4,5,A or splits 3's then get 3,2,2,A
I get either 0.5432% or 0.2345% or maybe I am to dumb to figure this out. Any volunteers ?
What is the benefit if he can double down on any hand with an ACE in it ?
10,6,A or 4,5,A or splits 3's then get 3,2,2,A
I get either 0.5432% or 0.2345% or maybe I am to dumb to figure this out. Any volunteers ?
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The gem that filled it
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January 8th, 2014 at 9:06:19 PM
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18 views and no guesses. Just looking for a number than is reasonable enough to not be readily challenged.
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January 8th, 2014 at 9:25:35 PM
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Quote: BuzzardPlayer gains a benefit of 0.23% if allowed to double on any number of cards in 8 deck game.
What is the benefit if he can double down on any hand with an ACE in it ?
10,6,A or 4,5,A or splits 3's then get 3,2,2,A
I get either 0.5432% or 0.2345% or maybe I am to dumb to figure this out. Any volunteers ?
I don't know the right answer, but it's definitely not higher than the value of being able to double down on any number of cards.
I would not try to figure this out without simulating it (but maybe I'm missing something). Where do you get your numbers from?
January 8th, 2014 at 9:27:27 PM
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Also,
This strikes me as perhaps not the best time to double :)
Quote: Buzzard10,6,A
This strikes me as perhaps not the best time to double :)
January 8th, 2014 at 9:41:01 PM
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I 10,6.A against a 5 or a 6 ? why not !
2345 or 5432 ** I said I was challenged. But would like a reasonable number to give any prospective distributor. He is gonna double check it with his numbers guy anyway. DAMN, I hope it's past Dan's bedtime or I am so busted !
2345 or 5432 ** I said I was challenged. But would like a reasonable number to give any prospective distributor. He is gonna double check it with his numbers guy anyway. DAMN, I hope it's past Dan's bedtime or I am so busted !
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
January 8th, 2014 at 9:58:58 PM
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Quote: BuzzardI 10,6.A against a 5 or a 6 ? why not !
Because you have a hard 17?
Quote:2345 or 5432 ** I said I was challenged. But would like a reasonable number to give any prospective distributor. He is gonna double check it with his numbers guy anyway. DAMN, I hope it's past Dan's bedtime or I am so busted !
It would not be hard to test this with a simulation, but I can't see an easy way to get an accurate number combinatorially.
January 9th, 2014 at 9:46:49 AM
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80 views and not even one guesstimate ? SIGH
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January 9th, 2014 at 9:50:51 AM
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Buzz, doubling any number of cards with an Ace is a sub-set of Doubling with any number of cards. Has to be less than the indication for the latter. Look up a soft-Double chart and look for the non-Doubles that can become a Double with the draw of one card. The situations are uncommon, yet can be worthwhile... Example A2 vs. 4 is HIT, if you Draw a 2, 3. 4 or 5 its a DD.
Off the top of my head, id say 10-15% of the total effect ( 0.23% yields say from 0.025% to 0.04% of the total)
Off the top of my head, id say 10-15% of the total effect ( 0.23% yields say from 0.025% to 0.04% of the total)
Some people need to reimagine their thinking.
January 9th, 2014 at 9:52:33 AM
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I got the lower part figured out. Still looking for a reasonable guess.
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January 9th, 2014 at 10:00:41 AM
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Very little. Most of the value from doubling on any number of cards is from getting a 10 or 11. I would guess maybe .03%. Now of you are counting doubling on split aces, it would be more.
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January 9th, 2014 at 10:03:11 AM
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No resplitting Aces. Miplet to the rescue again. Gonna go with 0.03%. Looks valid enough to go unchallenged. THANKS
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the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
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Tis but the casket
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The gem that filled it
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January 12th, 2014 at 5:40:54 PM
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I would guess .09. This is the added benefit of doubling soft hands in a multi-deck game, as opposed to only being able to double 9-11. That's without doubling on split aces. I doubt it's so low as .03, but maybe.
