April 22nd, 2010 at 11:39:05 AM
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Good Morning all,
Before I start I FULLY believe NO system, chart or feeling will be sucessful all the time, NOT EVEN most of the time!
But for relaxation I found a program I wrote 15+ years ago that would beat one of the popular BJ computer games of the time (you should have seen my freinds faces when I showed them!). It had a flaw in the randomization. Nothing of that program is very useful today, but it inspires me to beleive there are still areas to be explored!
Any way I started a few weeks ago to relook at the idea of poking holes in other peoples programs. I have had great results and was wondering what other experieced players think? My main site I used was GoCasino (NO I MAKE NO RECOMMENDATIONS!) I just choose one, and I have played about 60k hands. I play each session with the target of gaining $100. It can take between 20m to over 3hrs to play. Last week I finished testing with GoCasino after doing 30 strait winning sessions. I then swithed to 888.com. After about 8 sessions I wanted to refine my program so I found this forum, and got great ideas. A couple of days ago I finished again 30 strait winning sessions on 888.com.
BEFORE you say it is just luck or circumstance, I KNOW!!! But it has become a very interesting experiment!!! I may try to automate competely to run more sessions
I wanted to try Bodog.com but most of you problably already know that is WAY to big of a risk! They are very likely an identity theft ring! Dont we love that suckers are born every minute. So please do not recommend them.
So here are my questions:
1 What other sites would you recommend to try? (I may acually try some real money soon.) Especially ones that have complicated rules (for more testing.)
2 How many winning sessions would it take before you would risk real money? You being very savvy players would be the hardest to convince.
3 PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE: This is the important question!!! Are the practice areas the exact same as the real money area? Has anyone heard that there are difference between Practice and Real Money areas?
Thanks in advance, and thanks for the great information.
TJ
Before I start I FULLY believe NO system, chart or feeling will be sucessful all the time, NOT EVEN most of the time!
But for relaxation I found a program I wrote 15+ years ago that would beat one of the popular BJ computer games of the time (you should have seen my freinds faces when I showed them!). It had a flaw in the randomization. Nothing of that program is very useful today, but it inspires me to beleive there are still areas to be explored!
Any way I started a few weeks ago to relook at the idea of poking holes in other peoples programs. I have had great results and was wondering what other experieced players think? My main site I used was GoCasino (NO I MAKE NO RECOMMENDATIONS!) I just choose one, and I have played about 60k hands. I play each session with the target of gaining $100. It can take between 20m to over 3hrs to play. Last week I finished testing with GoCasino after doing 30 strait winning sessions. I then swithed to 888.com. After about 8 sessions I wanted to refine my program so I found this forum, and got great ideas. A couple of days ago I finished again 30 strait winning sessions on 888.com.
BEFORE you say it is just luck or circumstance, I KNOW!!! But it has become a very interesting experiment!!! I may try to automate competely to run more sessions
I wanted to try Bodog.com but most of you problably already know that is WAY to big of a risk! They are very likely an identity theft ring! Dont we love that suckers are born every minute. So please do not recommend them.
So here are my questions:
1 What other sites would you recommend to try? (I may acually try some real money soon.) Especially ones that have complicated rules (for more testing.)
2 How many winning sessions would it take before you would risk real money? You being very savvy players would be the hardest to convince.
3 PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE: This is the important question!!! Are the practice areas the exact same as the real money area? Has anyone heard that there are difference between Practice and Real Money areas?
Thanks in advance, and thanks for the great information.
TJ
April 22nd, 2010 at 11:42:01 AM
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You do know that Bodog is explicitly endorsed by and exclusively advertised on this site, right?
"So as the clock ticked and the day passed, opportunity met preparation, and luck happened." - Maurice Clarett
April 22nd, 2010 at 11:51:03 AM
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I have seen ads on the side. Wow that is really sad to hear!
TJ
TJ
April 22nd, 2010 at 12:12:33 PM
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There has been a lot of scuttlebut over the years that the practice games run on a different RNG and/or practice is rigged. Haven't seen the proof but it's out there. Don't go betting the farm if it's real money! BoDog does use reputable software.
When a rock is thrown into a pack of dogs, the one that yells the loudest is the one who got hit.
April 22nd, 2010 at 12:13:18 PM
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Did you bother to click on the link under the ad to find out why Bodog is exclusive here?Quote: TJeromeI have seen ads on the side. Wow that is really sad to hear!
I invented a few casino games. Info:
http://www.DaveMillerGaming.com/
Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? 😁
April 22nd, 2010 at 12:23:07 PM
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TY, If I had to guess I would think the same thing (I try not to think bad, but it is out there.) I do counter espionage for the web, for a German company. I figured it would be common knowledge about Bodog.com, but I will recheck my facts.
TJ
TJ
April 22nd, 2010 at 1:28:43 PM
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Quote: DJTeddyBearDid you bother to click on the link under the ad to find out why Bodog is exclusive here?
I have sources MUCH more reliable then writting at a bottom of a page. I asked my friend why she listed Bodog.com as one to avoid? It is because they are listed on an internal Identity Theft watch list from InterPOL. She could not give me details (or at least anything that I can repeat.) But I went to the site and found out for myself, why they have been flagged. If they have not had problems, then they will soon.
Please DJ and all others pay attention to the warning signs that something is not quite right with on-line information!
TJ
April 22nd, 2010 at 1:42:47 PM
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Quote: TJeromeI have sources MUCH more reliable then writting at a bottom of a page. I asked my friend why she listed Bodog.com as one to avoid? It is because they are listed on an internal Identity Theft watch list from InterPOL. She could not give me details (or at least anything that I can repeat.) But I went to the site and found out for myself, why they have been flagged. If they have not had problems, then they will soon.
And why can you not provide any of this "evidence" to us. I have much more faith in the wizard who has years of experience in the field as well as the personal experience with Bodog than some anonymous person posting on this board, sounding like just another troll.
If you could share this "evidence" I would be more than happy to change my opinion. Without proof however, I will take the Wizards word over yours.
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April 22nd, 2010 at 1:49:36 PM
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Proof of one is not possible, but proof of the other is very easy. For those who would like a lesson on internet security, is it better to continue here or is there a better place, or different thread?
TJ
EDIT - I am starting a new thread, I really want this one to stay on topic.
TJ
EDIT - I am starting a new thread, I really want this one to stay on topic.
April 22nd, 2010 at 6:37:08 PM
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Can't provide any proof of the bodog claim? Sounds like Joe McCarthy reincarnated.
April 22nd, 2010 at 7:31:35 PM
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Quote: AussieCan't provide any proof of the bodog claim? Sounds like Joe McCarthy reincarnated.
NO, I am not saying that Bodog.com has differences between Practice and Real money areas!!! In general what is the feeling about the online casinos, does this seem to be a practice that anybody has seen for sure? Do you remember any threads that discuss this topic?
TY, TJ
April 24th, 2010 at 10:06:21 AM
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I am VERY sorry if I was out-of-line! I think my comments were to harsh, and it is now obvious that this community is reacting badly to me. This thread has only had 1 on topic reply (100's of views), when I see many others with dozens.
I guess I feel like a child being given the silent treatment. I am sorry and did not mean to cause preoblems! I will restate my 3 questions, please respond if you wish. Tell me I am a troll and go away if you wish. I just want to know where I stand?
So here are my questions:
1 What other sites would you recommend to try? (I may acually try some real money soon.) Especially ones that have complicated rules (for more testing.)
2 How many winning sessions would it take before you would risk real money? You being very savvy players would be the hardest to convince.
3 PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE: This is the important question!!! Are the practice areas the exact same as the real money area? Has anyone heard that there difference between Practice and Real Money areas?
Thank You,
Terrance Jerome
PS (EDIT) - Here is the other thread with the explaination of my comments:
I guess I feel like a child being given the silent treatment. I am sorry and did not mean to cause preoblems! I will restate my 3 questions, please respond if you wish. Tell me I am a troll and go away if you wish. I just want to know where I stand?
So here are my questions:
1 What other sites would you recommend to try? (I may acually try some real money soon.) Especially ones that have complicated rules (for more testing.)
2 How many winning sessions would it take before you would risk real money? You being very savvy players would be the hardest to convince.
3 PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE: This is the important question!!! Are the practice areas the exact same as the real money area? Has anyone heard that there difference between Practice and Real Money areas?
Thank You,
Terrance Jerome
PS (EDIT) - Here is the other thread with the explaination of my comments: