PlayHunter
PlayHunter
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March 31st, 2013 at 7:42:46 PM permalink
If while using Hi-Lo Count, will play a betting scheme which increase bets (if needed according to TC) only after a win, and will decrease bets only after a lose, and will always make same bet after a push, will this be enough to 100% offset counting red flags ?

PS: If the spread would matter, consider a spread of $25 to $250. - But if it is about a spread of $25 to $500 ?
kewlj
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March 31st, 2013 at 8:12:38 PM permalink
Many different types of players raise their bets, including progression players...whom casino's love, hunch players...whom casino's love, players chasing losses...whom casino's love, players parlaying wins...whom casino's love. The biggest red flag with card counting (any count, including hi-lo), is not about how you raise your bets, but rather how you lower your wager. Particularly ending a shoe with a large wager out and taking it back down to the minimum or waiting wager at the shuffle of a new shoe. That is the BIG give-away.

Now of course the way to offset this biggest of red flags is to play short sessions and exit at the shuffle after any hi count, resulting in increased wagers. You need a large number of games in close proximity to play this way, ideally Vegas. But even then, it's not a 'sexy' or fun way to play so few players really play this way. But it will preserve longevity.

Now assuming that you are unable or unwilling to exit every time at the shuffle after big wagers, there are some compromises that you can and should make. Still keep your sessions short. If you won't exit after showing your spread (big wager), the first time, do so after showing your spread twice. This will still involve playing shorter sessions and that is really key. Short sessions means you are limiting the information available if anyone is taking a look at your play. They won't be able to make a complete determination from any one session. They would have to have the ability to string together a couple of your sessions to confirm 100% and that's where playing unrated comes in. Playing unrated, makes stringing together several playing sessions more difficult.

Now, one more piece of advice. If you are going to retreat back to a small or waiting wager at a fresh shuffle after placing bigger wagers, don't retreat all the way back. using the spread that you mentioned don't retreat from $500, or even $250 all the way back to $25. It's just too obvious. Instead, mix it up, wager $50 or $75 on the first hand of the next shoe. If you lose, then retreat backwards, if you win, leave that slightly inflated wager out there. There is a cost to this as obviously you are wagering a little more in a negative situation, but that's what 'cover' is. There is a cost to most cover plays.
PlayHunter
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March 31st, 2013 at 9:01:05 PM permalink
Thanks kewlj very useful advices !

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