ahiromu
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May 31st, 2010 at 7:30:45 PM permalink
Quote: joenunz

Last year at the Venetian, we had a half-hour to kill before seeing "A Bronx Tale". We sat down at a $15 table not realizing the sole player (at third base) was playing two hands. He said "why don't you guys wait until this shoe is done. I'm playing heads up here." I muttered "what an ***hole" and walked away.



No, no, no. Not the correct way to do things. You're supposed to not say anything, don't even look at him and pull out a few hundred bucks. Then you play three hands to his two.
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joenunz
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May 31st, 2010 at 7:44:29 PM permalink
Quote: ahiromu

No, no, no. Not the correct way to do things. You're supposed to not say anything, don't even look at him and pull out a few hundred bucks. Then you play three hands to his two.



lol...i may try that tactic next time!
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June 3rd, 2010 at 4:32:49 PM permalink
toastcmu wrote:

"The idea here is that if you're "comfortable" always playing $10 a hand, then playing 2 hands of $5 a piece will reduce the variance. from playing one hand of $10. If $5 is all you're comfortable with, then yes, putting $10 out on the table instead of $5 will get you to the long run faster. The gambler has to look at all the factors in making that decision."



Right, so as a two hand playing person, I want to insure that my bank roll is SLOWLY inevitably ground down. LOL

That's what I mean. I don't get it. We are looking for a variance in that inevitable occurrence on the chance of coming out ahead. All the harder to accomplish when you are doing all you can to mimic "in the long run" play.
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December 24th, 2014 at 9:53:52 AM permalink
Sorry for bringing up an old thread. I was wondering if the count is very low, would it be better to play one hand, or to play multiple hands so the low cards are played out more quickly so you get to positive ev quicker? Which would yield better per hour EV?This assumes if wonging out is not an option due to lack of tables.
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December 24th, 2014 at 4:55:52 PM permalink
Quote: Numpkin

Sorry for bringing up an old thread. I was wondering if the count is very low, would it be better to play one hand, or to play multiple hands so the low cards are played out more quickly so you get to positive ev quicker? Which would yield better per hour EVHThis assumes if wonging out is not an option due to lack of tables.



I know you'd only play one hand at -EV if you're not the only player at the table and I think you'd only play one hand if you were the only player at the table (depending on how many decks) because you could multi-hand yourself right in and out of a good count in a single or double deck game.

Besides, even with limited tables, wouldn't you still duck and run (or go the bathroom) if the count got REALLY bad?
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December 24th, 2014 at 5:09:07 PM permalink
Quote: Numpkin

Sorry for bringing up an old thread. I was wondering if the count is very low, would it be better to play one hand, or to play multiple hands so the low cards are played out more quickly so you get to positive ev quicker? Which would yield better per hour EV?This assumes if wonging out is not an option due to lack of tables.



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Numpkin
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December 24th, 2014 at 6:23:13 PM permalink
Sorry I should have elaborated my question more clearly. So the situation would be that I am playing heads up so there are no other players to burn the cards for me, and the count is so low that there is almost no chance for it to raise to positive after one round even if multiple hands are played.

So for example if there are 24 cards left until shuffle and the count is very negative. Assuming average of 4 cards per hand at such negative count. I can either play 5 hands and all the cards will be used after a single round, or I can play one hand per round and all cards will be burnt after 3 rounds. The question I was wondering is that would it be better for per hour EV if I played 5 hands in one round, or play 3 rounds but it probably will take double the time to play.

Thanks for the replies!
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December 25th, 2014 at 8:03:15 AM permalink
Quote: joenunz

When someone is playing two hands I avoid that table like the plague. I have found multiple hands players to feel entitled...like they "own the table". And I'm talking about $10-$15 tables, not $100 tables...which me and my bankroll don't patronize anway.

Last year at the Venetian, we had a half-hour to kill before seeing "A Bronx Tale". We sat down at a $15 table not realizing the sole player (at third base) was playing two hands. He said "why don't you guys wait until this shoe is done. I'm playing heads up here." I muttered "what an ***hole" and walked away.

Was he counting? Do you remember what his bets were?

Generally if I think they are savvy players, Ill just ask if they mind if I jump in.

If you know they are counting and they have big bets out, jumping in will eat up the cards during a high count.

If they are just stupidstitious then FK'em.

I have kindly asked people if the could wait a few hands.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪

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