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sevencard2003
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December 24th, 2012 at 4:35:32 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

Still not good pen. If you do know when the shuffle is, I'd only wong in.

essentially what im doing, flat betting 1 hand of $1 on negative decks, and then 1,2,3, spots of $5 each, $10 each, $15 each, depending on how positive the count is. thats why i like playing when the casino is dead
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sabre
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December 24th, 2012 at 4:40:44 PM permalink
Playing every hand isn't "essentially" wonging.

How do you know that the on-screen shuffle animation corresponds to an actual shuffle?
sevencard2003
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December 24th, 2012 at 4:45:46 PM permalink
well it is doing it at the 80 card mark each time, and im sure others can better answer this, but im sure they would in some way be guilty of fraud if it wasnt. the biggest evidence is most of my bets lose at minus counts, and win at plus counts. even if u flat bet $1 on poor counts, u still arent losing considering the one i play is the ONLY one i know of anywhere around returning a full 1% comps, which will bring it to over 100% even before u count
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sabre
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December 24th, 2012 at 5:01:30 PM permalink
Better counts result in very minute changes to the distribution of wins and losses. Most of the increased edge from higher counts comes from the increase in # of BJs, the increased edge on doubles/splits, the increased value of surrender, and the opportunity for insurance. So your personal observation of increased wins based on the count are nothing but confirmation bias.

I know there are state laws regarding the operation of video gaming devices using depictions of playing cards. However, do those laws say anything about virtual shoes and the electronic "shuffling" of those shoes? Can someone with knowledge of NV state law chime in?
FleaStiff
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December 24th, 2012 at 7:45:01 PM permalink
Quote: sabre

How do you know that the on-screen shuffle animation corresponds to an actual shuffle?

Particularly when company literature indicates four separate shuffling points are programmed in and can be selected by the casino.
Ardent1
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December 24th, 2012 at 9:18:17 PM permalink
Quote: CrystalMath

According to Aruze engineers I've worked with, the name was just made up. They pronounced it ah-ROO-zay.



I like Aruze slots, especially when they guarantee 95% return (it was 97% in Reno) -- at max coins, based on industry standard of 10,000,000 pulls. Many of their video slots were "wongable" and very easy to reverse engineer, i.e. map out the game structure. By the way, it was interesting how they disclosed that they had (I think) 3 different returns programmed onto one chip ranging from about 90% to 95%. It was rare to see a slot manufacturer disclose the game return like Aruze at 95% or 97, plus they also disclosed the cycle time for the bonus round, i.e. how frequently it was supposed to hit.

Here's where the name comes from: http://www.aruzegaming.com/aboutus.html

Here was my most profitable Aruze game: http://www.aruzegaming.com/games/showgirl.html with "sticky wilds".

However, I generated the most W-2's with http://www.aruzegaming.com/games/lastemperor.html One trick was to bet the max on the last spin during "rescue feature" to generate 2 extra spins.
Ardent1
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December 24th, 2012 at 9:26:46 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

Still not good pen. If you do know when the shuffle is, I'd only wong in.



You are just like Buzzard with one-dimensional thinking with the standard approach to play BJ.

It's a "slot machine" meaning you need to think in terms of ADT. People like Grosjean would be all over these machines with the right environment -- you need to look "Beyond Counting". People have to think outside the box sometimes to make the big bucks.

If you don't know what "ADT" means in regards to slots, then ask Buzzard since he comes across like he knows everything. If the casino follows the 30/10 rule with respect to ADT, it's a good deal.
Ibeatyouraces
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December 24th, 2012 at 9:32:40 PM permalink
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
Ardent1
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December 24th, 2012 at 9:39:26 PM permalink
Quote: sabre

Playing every hand isn't "essentially" wonging.

How do you know that the on-screen shuffle animation corresponds to an actual shuffle?



sabre, did you ever add "depth charging" in your blackjack arsenal before? I think not.

If you know the shuffle point, someone who understands the theory of "depth charging" controls the pen if playing alone or with a team member(s). This is rudimentary BJ AP skills that every novice counter ought to know.

Btw, in games like these, you can have perfect play if you wanted too, but that is just theory and not generally used in practice. If you are bored and wanted to use a count with 100% betting correction -- done. You want 70% playing efficiency -- done. You want to practice a level-13 count -- done. You want to work on your side counts -- done. Jumping from min to max. And all this WITHOUT HEAT.

Food for thought.
Ardent1
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December 24th, 2012 at 9:41:21 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

I was too busy playing with a 20% egde all day and this evening on uth. Sorry but blackjack is last on my list of AP plays.



Ibeatyouraces, you just contradicted yourself based on your last two posts in this thread. Nice back-pedalling.

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