FleaStiff
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November 19th, 2012 at 3:22:41 PM permalink
Quote: bigfoot66

I have buddies that will go to a casino with me twice a year and they always seem to end up at a single deck 6:5 table.

Perhaps it has something to do with the dealer's chip tray... you know.... her rack!
FleaStiff
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November 19th, 2012 at 3:25:30 PM permalink
Quote: Buzzard

Forget the jockey's name, but he disappeared in Everglades while fishing. SIGH

It was No-Neck Louis from Cleveland who disappeared him.
FleaStiff
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November 19th, 2012 at 3:29:36 PM permalink
Quote: Buzzard

in one of the corners of the famed Bermuda Triangle.

The Bermuda Triangle doesn't even exist. Please note: I reserve the right to alter my response if I ever start selling subscriptions to a newsletter about the Bermuda Triangle.
Buzzard
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November 19th, 2012 at 3:33:32 PM permalink
STENDEC STENDEC STENDEC
Shed not for her the bitter tear Nor give the heart to vain regret Tis but the casket that lies here, The gem that filled it Sparkles yet
AxiomOfChoice
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November 19th, 2012 at 6:37:09 PM permalink
Quote: MakingBook

I'm with Buzz. The only time you cut a guy off is when they run out of money and can't pay when they lose.

If a bookie identifies a winning player, they can/will use that information to their advantage.



It's hard to use the info. The good players are just getting the money in ahead of the line move. By the time the action is booked, it's too late. The line moves and the opportunity disappears very quickly. I've seen it happen.
Buzzard
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November 19th, 2012 at 7:10:03 PM permalink
Send them wise guys to me. Losers are losers. Bookies never have trouble paying the rent.

I am talking about real info, not just some loser on a streak.
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AxiomOfChoice
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November 19th, 2012 at 7:14:03 PM permalink
Now you're starting to sound like PaiGowDan :) No APs out there, right?
Buzzard
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November 19th, 2012 at 7:16:28 PM permalink
Not unless they have enough money to move the line. I have known lots of guys who say they kill baseball, nfl, etc.
Some even try and post their picks here as proof. They don't stay long.

I will agree with Dan on one thing. Most who say there are AP are full of shit.

But they do exist !

Willy Allison is a casino game protection consultant and founder of World Game Protection Inc, a company that provides casino education and consulting services.
Willy started his casino career as a trainee surveillance operator in Australia 25 years ago. His career progressed into various surveillance management roles in Australia, Asia, South America and the U.S.A.
In 2006 he created the World Game Protection Conference (WGPC), the world's first annual conference & expo dedicated to casino surveillance & game protection.
Willy published a monthly online newsletter "The Catwalk" from 2005-2012 and has written for other major casino publications.

Willy says casino in the US lose more annually to AP players than all cheating combined.
Shed not for her the bitter tear Nor give the heart to vain regret Tis but the casket that lies here, The gem that filled it Sparkles yet
AxiomOfChoice
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November 19th, 2012 at 7:34:03 PM permalink
Quote: Buzzard

Not unless they have enough money to move the line.



I never said that they didn't have enough money to move the line :) The hardest part is getting the action down. Most books have ridiculously low limits, because they know that they are vulnerable. Want to put down $100k per hand on baccarat? No problem, sir. May we get you a drink / a suite / your airfare / a limo / some food / some women as well? Want to put down $100k on a few NFL games? Good f'n luck.
MakingBook
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November 19th, 2012 at 7:44:42 PM permalink
A couple times per year, I would pick up players that were "cut off" by scared bookies.

Some bookmakers don't have the bankroll to withstand a guy that gets lucky for 3 or 4 weeks.
Whenever these guys would come to me, I would always feel like I hit the lottery.
I made lots of cash from these types. Makes me wish I wasn't retired.

But I did have one new guy that crushed me for about $15k over a couple months.

He was pretty sharp. Most other players are sharp as a basketball
"I am a man devoured by the passion for gambling." --Dostoevsky, 1871

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