PlayHunter
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November 5th, 2012 at 1:41:39 PM permalink
At what Hi-Lo Count (assuming a single deck) we should stand on:

1. 12 vs dealer 2

2. 12 vs dealer 3

3. 15 vs dealer 10

4. 16 vs dealer 10

5. Take insurance

6. HIT on 10 vs dealer 2 to 9 ? -- not sure if I asked this properly --
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November 5th, 2012 at 1:46:15 PM permalink
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PlayHunter
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November 5th, 2012 at 2:01:13 PM permalink
Thanks Ibeatyouraces !
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November 5th, 2012 at 2:05:46 PM permalink
1. true count +3

2. TC +2

3. TC +4

4. TC +1, actually th index is exactly 0, so you should stand on any positive RUNNING count.

5. My insurance number for double deck and 6 deck games is TC +3. This is the one index that varies the most for single deck game. It is lower. I am not sure the exact number as I don't play single deck.

6. Index for hitting 10 vs 9 (instead of double) is TC minus 1. I don't know of indices numbers for standing 10 vs 8 thru 2. the lower numbers is never going to be the correct play. There could be an index for hitting 10 vs 8 rather than doubling but it is going to be a pretty big negative number. You are much better off to not play those negative hands than to learn such extreme negative index plays.
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November 5th, 2012 at 2:24:00 PM permalink
Quote: PlayHunter

At what Hi-Lo Count (assuming a single deck) we should stand on:

1. 12 vs dealer 2

2. 12 vs dealer 3

3. 15 vs dealer 10

4. 16 vs dealer 10

5. Take insurance

6. HIT on 10 vs dealer 2 to 9 ? -- not sure if I asked this properly --


kewlj got your questions, but the Illustrious 18 are reprinted by the Wiz here (with permission of Don S). That covers 1-5 for you; as kewlj said, #6 is not too relevant as you should either wong out by this point, or at the worst you will have a minimum bet out there.
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PlayHunter
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November 5th, 2012 at 6:08:58 PM permalink
Thank you very much guys, but I am not sure if I did understood very good the Illustrious 18 table, so I better ask to make sure:

-It says that a pair of 10 should be split when dealer have 6 or 5 at a TC of +4 and respectively +5 and 13 vs 3 hit at a TC of -2 ?
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November 5th, 2012 at 6:16:56 PM permalink
Quote: kewlj

1. true count +3

2. TC +2

3. TC +4

4. TC +1, actually th index is exactly 0, so you should stand on any positive RUNNING count.

5. My insurance number for double deck and 6 deck games is TC +3. This is the one index that varies the most for single deck game. It is lower. I am not sure the exact number as I don't play single deck.

6. Index for hitting 10 vs 9 (instead of double) is TC minus 1. I don't know of indices numbers for standing 10 vs 8 thru 2. the lower numbers is never going to be the correct play. There could be an index for hitting 10 vs 8 rather than doubling but it is going to be a pretty big negative number. You are much better off to not play those negative hands than to learn such extreme negative index plays.



If I remember right, the index for insurance in a single deck game is 1.4. So you'd insure when the count is anything above that, but for practical matters, anything above 1.5. Double Check this, though, if you're intent on playing for money, since I'm not 100% sure.
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November 5th, 2012 at 6:19:40 PM permalink
Quote: PlayHunter

Thank you very much guys, but I am not sure if I did understood very good the Illustrious 18 table, so I better ask to make sure:

-It says that a pair of 10 should be split when dealer have 6 or 5 at a TC of +4 and respectively +5 and 13 vs 3 hit at a TC of -2 ?



I once looked at chart for single deck which specified no index for 10,10. I think this was because you'd be flagged easily as counting if you pulled the play in a single deck game, but I'm not 100% sure. Maybe the count has to be way higher for single deck, which is why it was excluded.

http://gamemasteronline.com/GameMasters/SD-BS-Variations.shtml


This is the chart, and GMO is a highly respected site, so I'm assuming it's accurate. The rules are Single Deck, H17, Da2, no das, no surrender.

As for your question, yes, you read the chart right. (Although off the top of my head the index for Splitting 10,10 against 5 is +5, but I never use that play so I could just be hazy on it)
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November 5th, 2012 at 6:36:17 PM permalink
Thank you very much Boney526 this info also certainly helps me too !
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