Getting Drunk,losing ALL your $$$$
September 6th, 2012 at 8:22:32 PM
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I hate to admit it, but this has become a theme for me.
Although I have had my biggest wins due to positive variance but it's only a matter of time before they get it all back and then some.
I basically stay playing too long and drink to much, anyone have any suggestions ? Not drink , I know I could not do that !!
Has this affected anyone else on numerous occasions ? It could be an interesting post to hear some stories .
Although I have had my biggest wins due to positive variance but it's only a matter of time before they get it all back and then some.
I basically stay playing too long and drink to much, anyone have any suggestions ? Not drink , I know I could not do that !!
Has this affected anyone else on numerous occasions ? It could be an interesting post to hear some stories .
" If I had the money and the drinking capacity, I'd probably live at a blackjak table and let my life go to hell." Don Pedro
September 6th, 2012 at 8:27:13 PM
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Budget.
I'm going to AC tomorrow night. I will budget $1,000 for Friday and $2,000 for Saturday. I will play until 1:00am or I've lost my budgeted amount which ever happens first. On Sunday, I won't even consider putting a nickle in a slot machine.
I find that the more I get drunk, the less I like to play. I don't like giving the casino that large an advantage. It's large enough already.
I'm going to AC tomorrow night. I will budget $1,000 for Friday and $2,000 for Saturday. I will play until 1:00am or I've lost my budgeted amount which ever happens first. On Sunday, I won't even consider putting a nickle in a slot machine.
I find that the more I get drunk, the less I like to play. I don't like giving the casino that large an advantage. It's large enough already.
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September 6th, 2012 at 8:38:32 PM
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Quote: DonPedro
I basically stay playing too long and drink to much, anyone have any suggestions ? Not drink , I know I could not do that !!
Change it to drinking and driving. "Every time I get drunk and
drive, I get a ticket. Any suggestions?"
Kind of a no brainer, huh.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
September 6th, 2012 at 9:01:35 PM
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I quit drinking almost 20 years ago. My losses have been reduced considerably.
If you gotta drink just drink in the bar and pay for your drinks. It's cheaper, believe me.
I woke up in my hotel room one morning, broke. My credit card had been hit for 500 bucks and I didn't remember any of it. That was enough for me. To Caesars credit, they escorted me to my room and put me to bed when it was obvious that I was in black out.
I thanked them and have never had a drink since.
If you gotta drink just drink in the bar and pay for your drinks. It's cheaper, believe me.
I woke up in my hotel room one morning, broke. My credit card had been hit for 500 bucks and I didn't remember any of it. That was enough for me. To Caesars credit, they escorted me to my room and put me to bed when it was obvious that I was in black out.
I thanked them and have never had a drink since.
Stupid is a choice
September 6th, 2012 at 9:03:35 PM
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Alcoholics Amonymous : You can not beat this addiction alone. BELIEVE ME. Same for anyone with a gambling addiction.
September 6th, 2012 at 9:12:18 PM
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Is this a cry for help or something? If you cannot handle your alcohol and don't have self restraint, don't drink.
Here's how I approach my bankroll. I budget X per day. If I lose half of it, I reduce my bets to the table minimum for the rest of the day until you wipe out the other half or go back above half the day's bankroll. Basically I want to keep playing even after a losing session, so I use the two tiers to give myself something to do besides sit around and wait for the next day to start.
Really though, if you have a gambling and drinking problem, which it looks like you do, you should think about getting yourself banned from casinos and into some kind of program.
Here's how I approach my bankroll. I budget X per day. If I lose half of it, I reduce my bets to the table minimum for the rest of the day until you wipe out the other half or go back above half the day's bankroll. Basically I want to keep playing even after a losing session, so I use the two tiers to give myself something to do besides sit around and wait for the next day to start.
Really though, if you have a gambling and drinking problem, which it looks like you do, you should think about getting yourself banned from casinos and into some kind of program.
September 6th, 2012 at 9:15:19 PM
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" If you cannot handle your alcohol and don't have self restraint, don't drink. "
If only it were that simple. In my personal life as well as being a shop steward over 30 years, I have seen to many men, families, women destroyed by alcohol, drugs, and/or gambling.
Too numerous to number really, don't be too vain to not seek help. PLEASE !!!
If only it were that simple. In my personal life as well as being a shop steward over 30 years, I have seen to many men, families, women destroyed by alcohol, drugs, and/or gambling.
Too numerous to number really, don't be too vain to not seek help. PLEASE !!!
September 6th, 2012 at 9:16:06 PM
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I don't drink much any more, and never when I bet. Actually, when I play I enjoy it so much that I don't want to drink and dull the pleasure!
Sounds to me like you got issues, friend. The fact that you came to this anonymous forum and laid it out there indicates that. Getting drunk and losing all your money, over and over again.... Well, read the sentence and draw your own conclusion.
Sounds to me like you got issues, friend. The fact that you came to this anonymous forum and laid it out there indicates that. Getting drunk and losing all your money, over and over again.... Well, read the sentence and draw your own conclusion.
A falling knife has no handle.
September 6th, 2012 at 9:19:26 PM
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Buzzpaff, I agree it's not that simple or it wouldn't be a problem. I hope he does get help but a forum isn't the place to get it. Just ask HB.
September 6th, 2012 at 9:30:49 PM
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Hey, can not try and help, no matter how much of a long shot it is ! Hot Blonde is losing weight, the poster may soon lose all that is near and dear to him. Hope not, but the odds are definitely not in his favor. Hot Blonde wants to look hot again. I have know some traffic-stopping beautiful women. Their addictions are harder, they can always find someone to party with, at first. Many are so immature, in great part, because us guys will agree with anything stupid we they say. As long as we have the remotest chance of getting laid or just like the company of a beautiful woman.
A guy will make a statement , anything at all, and we might say " You stupid shit. Are you serious or a F***ing idiot.
Beautiful woman says same thing and we say " Well, some people share your opinion " or " I can see your point, sort of ".
And addictions come in all sizes and colors. Have seen lives destroyed by religious addictions in addition to the usual.
A guy will make a statement , anything at all, and we might say " You stupid shit. Are you serious or a F***ing idiot.
Beautiful woman says same thing and we say " Well, some people share your opinion " or " I can see your point, sort of ".
And addictions come in all sizes and colors. Have seen lives destroyed by religious addictions in addition to the usual.
September 6th, 2012 at 9:37:55 PM
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Quote: buzzpaffAlcoholics Amonymous : You can not beat this addiction alone..
NO! Gamblers Anonymous, never stop drinking until
its too late..
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
September 6th, 2012 at 9:39:31 PM
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As a former bar owner, I can only assume you might want to withdraw that advice.
I think the poster has a serious problem and maybe, just maybe, he is starting to realize it.
I think the poster has a serious problem and maybe, just maybe, he is starting to realize it.
September 6th, 2012 at 9:40:58 PM
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Quote: buzzpaffAs a former bar owner, I can only assume you might want to withdraw that advice.
For most of my customers it wasn't too late, they
were still upright.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
September 6th, 2012 at 9:56:19 PM
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Good Point. It turns it away from "gambling" towards "merely giving it to the casino".Quote: s2dbakerI don't like giving the casino that large an advantage. It's large enough already.
September 6th, 2012 at 9:58:05 PM
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Quote: texasplumrIf you gotta drink just drink in the bar and pay for your drinks. It's cheaper, believe me.
This. Exactly. If you're playing, every free drink costs about $40+. YMMV. Just buy a bottle in the giftshop with your player comp points and drink in your room. It's cheaper by far. Then go downstairs and spend the money you saved on a 20-something babe. Everybody wins.
"Poker sure is an easy game to beat if you have the roll to keep rebuying."
September 6th, 2012 at 11:16:24 PM
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Quote: MoscaI don't drink much any more, and never when I bet. Actually, when I play I enjoy it so much that I don't want to drink and dull the pleasure!
Exact same for me. I'll have a drink, but never even close to excess.
I'd recommend mixing some caffeine in there, maybe Red Bull Vodkas? Health wise this isn't really a good option since you'll end out drinking more, but you'll be mindful longer.
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September 6th, 2012 at 11:26:55 PM
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I've found having a bit of whiskey in front of me can actually help my game... it might just be superstition, but I know I'm not alone in the idea. I think it might be that it makes me a bit more aggressive, and keeps me from second-guessing my reads.
I don't think I've ever found that alcohol makes me likely to gamble more, although it does make me more likely to spend more at the shops and restaurants.
I don't think I've ever found that alcohol makes me likely to gamble more, although it does make me more likely to spend more at the shops and restaurants.
The trick to poker is learning not to beat yourself up for your mistakes too much, and certainly not too little, but just the right amount.
September 6th, 2012 at 11:42:22 PM
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Substitute pills and weed for alcohol.
Works for me.
Works for me.
"What, me worry?"
September 7th, 2012 at 12:10:43 AM
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Quote: kulinIs this a cry for help or something?
From the tone of the original post, I would have to say no, not even close.
My drinking while gambling has tailed off, although I have always said one of the great things about Craps is you can play and drink, no problem, up to an extent.
It's never a good idea to mix heavy drinking and handling money, in anything. That's got to be obvious.
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!” She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
September 7th, 2012 at 12:28:40 AM
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It seems to me that craps would be the worst table game to play drunk. So many sucker bets that half the table is making... and deceptively often, winning, and winning big...
The trick to poker is learning not to beat yourself up for your mistakes too much, and certainly not too little, but just the right amount.
September 7th, 2012 at 12:40:39 AM
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Quote: 24BingoIt seems to me that craps would be the worst table game to play drunk. So many sucker bets that half the table is making... and deceptively often, winning, and winning big...
yeah, I think if a player needs strength to avoid the sucker bets, it's 'no booze' time for them. I've never been drunk while playing so don't know if that would get me. Craps is the only game I'd play with even "just a buzz" though. I suppose my weakness for additional Come bets shows up a little more when partaking, which just means less attention to how much I intended to gamble. I can't imagine playing BJ and drinking.
Handling money while into it all 3 sheets is just too dumb, for one thing it has to encourage anyone who had a notion to short-change you.
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!” She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
September 7th, 2012 at 3:14:05 AM
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Quote: DonPedroI hate to admit it, but this has become a theme for me.
Although I have had my biggest wins due to positive variance but it's only a matter of time before they get it all back and then some.
I basically stay playing too long and drink to much, anyone have any suggestions ? Not drink , I know I could not do that !!
Has this affected anyone else on numerous occasions ? It could be an interesting post to hear some stories .
If you gamble (non AP), you will lose money.
If you drink, you will get drunk.
You are achieving the expected result.
"I don't have a gambling problem. I have a financial problem."
September 7th, 2012 at 11:27:15 AM
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I watched a guy drink 15 Coronas while playing BJ last night - as the drinks grew in number, so did the size of his losses. It is an old adage but, there is a reason the drinks are free while you play. I have about one drink per month and it is only on a day I am not playing and is usually with dinner. I lose enough with my brain in tact for me to lower the odds further.
Please try to ask the waitress to have the bartender to make the drinks weaker (unless you are doing shots - which, if you are, I recommend mixing with soda/water) so each drink has less of an affect on you.
Please try to ask the waitress to have the bartender to make the drinks weaker (unless you are doing shots - which, if you are, I recommend mixing with soda/water) so each drink has less of an affect on you.
September 7th, 2012 at 11:32:51 AM
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Quote: DanMahownyIf you gamble (non AP), you will lose money.
If you drink, you will get drunk.
You are achieving the expected result.
If you gamble and losey money, weill it's your money.
If you get drunk and belligerent, do not expect an apology if I knock you on your ass.
Amazing how many " nice " guys turn into mean drunks.
September 7th, 2012 at 12:02:03 PM
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Not a cry for help at all, I actually enjoy getting shii-----ttt drunk and playing bj or poker .
In fact, the times I played w/o drinking ( during lunch had to go back to work ), got so bored I just went back to work.
I can count up to a certain point, then it becomes a table scan, then I am just betting .
There have been many times I have won plenty, but I seem to forget the big wins quickly and the big losses sting for awhile.
I may just try to stay away from the pit as I have been playing more poker lately, and I could not even imagine encountering even close to the losses as I have had @ BJ, unless I just threw my chips at the dealer/ player, which I have done.
99.9 % of the time , I am shiii---t drunk playing as solid as I can at the moment and having fun w/ everyone else. There is the .1%,when I do get belligerent mainly towards the dealer or poker player, then the next time I see them I toke them well or buy them dinner and all is forgotten.
I am sure many would say I have a problem, that may very well be true, but to be honest I am not sure what I would do w/ myself , if I did not drink and gamble ??? That seems to be the only things I enjoy !!
I guess I was correct, this turned into an interesting post, and rest assured I will be at the table shiiii---ttt drunk and gambling !!
In fact, the times I played w/o drinking ( during lunch had to go back to work ), got so bored I just went back to work.
I can count up to a certain point, then it becomes a table scan, then I am just betting .
There have been many times I have won plenty, but I seem to forget the big wins quickly and the big losses sting for awhile.
I may just try to stay away from the pit as I have been playing more poker lately, and I could not even imagine encountering even close to the losses as I have had @ BJ, unless I just threw my chips at the dealer/ player, which I have done.
99.9 % of the time , I am shiii---t drunk playing as solid as I can at the moment and having fun w/ everyone else. There is the .1%,when I do get belligerent mainly towards the dealer or poker player, then the next time I see them I toke them well or buy them dinner and all is forgotten.
I am sure many would say I have a problem, that may very well be true, but to be honest I am not sure what I would do w/ myself , if I did not drink and gamble ??? That seems to be the only things I enjoy !!
I guess I was correct, this turned into an interesting post, and rest assured I will be at the table shiiii---ttt drunk and gambling !!
" If I had the money and the drinking capacity, I'd probably live at a blackjak table and let my life go to hell." Don Pedro
September 7th, 2012 at 12:05:44 PM
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" .1%,when I do get belligerent mainly towards the dealer or poker player"
The dealer has to stand there and take. Hopefully some poker player will knock you on your ass.
The dealer has to stand there and take. Hopefully some poker player will knock you on your ass.
September 7th, 2012 at 12:15:11 PM
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I would agree, I deserve it.
I guess most people I play w/, enjoy playing w/ me and know me from the 99.9 %
I guess most people I play w/, enjoy playing w/ me and know me from the 99.9 %
" If I had the money and the drinking capacity, I'd probably live at a blackjak table and let my life go to hell." Don Pedro
September 7th, 2012 at 12:19:23 PM
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And I would also say, that I hassle the dealers and other players much less than the sober players. That constantly cuss at the dealer or make remarks re: other people's play.
" If I had the money and the drinking capacity, I'd probably live at a blackjak table and let my life go to hell." Don Pedro
September 7th, 2012 at 1:00:10 PM
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Quote: DonPedroI hate to admit it, but this has become a theme for me.
Although I have had my biggest wins due to positive variance but it's only a matter of time before they get it all back and then some.
I basically stay playing too long and drink to much, anyone have any suggestions ? Not drink , I know I could not do that !!
Then don't gamble.
If you can't do that either, then the only thing I can suggest to "help" is to find the tables with the largest maximums, so you can gamble while you're sober - then go drink somewhere where they don't have tables, so you can't gamble it away. (The minute you even consider leaving the bar to go back and gamble, you might as well just hand the casino your money until you can get help for your problem.)
September 7th, 2012 at 1:13:28 PM
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Quote: DonPedroI hassle the dealers and other players much less than the sober players.
Don't kid yourself, dealers love having to stand there and smile at belligerent drunks. Especially the ones that don't remember the next day that they were in fact worse than the sober ones.
September 7th, 2012 at 1:22:03 PM
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" Especially the ones that don't remember the next day that they were in fact worse than the sober ones. "
That's the problem with arguing with drunks. The next day they don't even remember it.
You decision to get drunk does not allow you to abuse me without consequences.
That's the problem with arguing with drunks. The next day they don't even remember it.
You decision to get drunk does not allow you to abuse me without consequences.
September 7th, 2012 at 3:16:08 PM
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You go to the casino on your lunch break and you're bored because you can't drink?
I don't think I have any advice for you.
I don't think I have any advice for you.
A falling knife has no handle.
September 7th, 2012 at 3:33:16 PM
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Work, the curse of the drinking class....
Oscar Wilde
Oscar Wilde
In a bet, there is a fool and a thief.
- Proverb.
September 8th, 2012 at 9:48:53 AM
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I do not drink heavily except when I am gambling. The best trick I have found is after dinner I leave large chunks of my bankroll in my room. For example, I play quarter VP and I play $5 craps (buy in for $100). If I am starting to get tipsy I will only keep $150 in my pocket and any time I win $100 or more that goes in the safe. I know that my discipline is gone at that point so I will very likely lose whatever is not in the safe and that's OK. The point is to simply minimize the damage. I have occasionally woken up with about 6 weeks worth of paychecks sitting in high value chips on my nightstand that I don't remember winning. Almost always I will have a slot ticket for $3, a couple of white chips and thats on my nightstand when I waker up. However, there is usually a lot of my money still in the safe so I am OK. If I am that loaded and I bust out I might return to the room with the intention of grabbing money to play more but usually do not make it back out of the room.
BTW you said that you are friendly and nice 99.9% of the time you drink, which means it is 1 in 1,000 times that you are not. May I suggest you may be rude more often than this and may want to reevaluate how often you get beligerent.
BTW you said that you are friendly and nice 99.9% of the time you drink, which means it is 1 in 1,000 times that you are not. May I suggest you may be rude more often than this and may want to reevaluate how often you get beligerent.
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September 8th, 2012 at 11:15:13 AM
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Quote: DonPedroThere is the .1%,when I do get belligerent
The thing is, 99.9% of the time is not good enough in this category. Just like landing a plane without crashing 99.9% of the time is not good enough: if it was all that could be expected, there would be dozens of crashes every day.
I'm afraid even the worst drunks, the ones driving friends and family crazy, feel picked on because of this. Even the worst [but still trying to keep their family etc] probably go weeks, even months, without a notorious incident. But the incidents that are bad are just found to be intolerable.
You really need to be able to say your drinking is *never* out of hand.
Well, I'm still working on that myself [g]
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!” She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
September 8th, 2012 at 11:15:57 AM
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Most drunks are assholes and think they are being cute.
September 10th, 2012 at 11:33:14 PM
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I guess I've lucked out on this front. My last 2 trips to Vegas, I brought a low 5 figure bankroll with the intention of using it mainly to count and run other advantage plays. Both times I ended up playing craps (and drinking heavily) almost to the exclusion of AP, simply because I was with friends and I love playing craps with friends and teaching other people how to play craps. Ever tried to count at a table with friends who don't know what's going on? For the amateur like me, it's rough. Seasoned pros can of course carry on like normal. But shooting the dice is ever so much fun.
Like I said, I've been lucky. The night of a bachelor party, I left my room with about 5 grand in cash. After the strip club (I spent some but a minimal amount), me and another bro hit the craps tables and kept drinking. I thought I was keeping a handle on things until I ran out of chips and reached into my suit pocket and, BAM, it was all gone. Five grand and I thought I was maybe down one. Lolololol, well we hit the sack and over the next day or 2 I won it back (playing the light side of all things...boo hisssss I know!). Well that's how the cookie crumbles.
No advice for the Pedro, just relating my own experiences. For my next trip to Vegas, I will not be surrounded by familiar friends, but hopefully by some new internet friends I.E. you all, the patrons of WoV. I hope to set some serious boundaries regarding AP bankroll vs. craps bankroll. We'll see how that goes.
Like I said, I've been lucky. The night of a bachelor party, I left my room with about 5 grand in cash. After the strip club (I spent some but a minimal amount), me and another bro hit the craps tables and kept drinking. I thought I was keeping a handle on things until I ran out of chips and reached into my suit pocket and, BAM, it was all gone. Five grand and I thought I was maybe down one. Lolololol, well we hit the sack and over the next day or 2 I won it back (playing the light side of all things...boo hisssss I know!). Well that's how the cookie crumbles.
No advice for the Pedro, just relating my own experiences. For my next trip to Vegas, I will not be surrounded by familiar friends, but hopefully by some new internet friends I.E. you all, the patrons of WoV. I hope to set some serious boundaries regarding AP bankroll vs. craps bankroll. We'll see how that goes.
"So drink gamble eat f***, because one day you will be dust." -ontariodealer
September 11th, 2012 at 12:05:58 AM
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Quote: buzzpaffMost drunks are assholes and think they are being cute.
Most people are assholes and think they are being cute.
