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December 23rd, 2023 at 12:44:55 AM permalink
Professional Gambler (Mikki Mase) Exposes Casinos For CHEATING & Reveals How He Beat The Vegas Odds
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December 23rd, 2023 at 12:49:21 AM permalink
I'm about an hour in where he's explaining how he uses a $3 million cashiers check for the cage to hold and give him chips for, then he comes back after winning and gets his check back and cash back for the winnings. He needs big deposits like that for his high betting limits. He'd bet $250K/hand on Baccarat; $75K/hand on a BJ shoe, or $35K/hand for 2 hands, or $25K/hand for 3 hands, or $50K/hand on BJ double deck. So these are significantly higher stakes than typical posted limits. His win goal was $1 million a week. Compared to his deposit, it seems like a struggle or an easy peasey thing to do. He wouldn't do bank wires, he didn't trust them.
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December 23rd, 2023 at 4:25:06 AM permalink
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I'm about an hour in where he's explaining how he uses a $3 million cashiers check for the cage to hold and give him chips for, then he comes back after winning and gets his check back and cash back for the winnings. He needs big deposits like that for his high betting limits. He'd bet $250K/hand on Baccarat; $75K/hand on a BJ shoe, or $35K/hand for 2 hands, or $25K/hand for 3 hands, or $50K/hand on BJ double deck. So these are significantly higher stakes than typical posted limits. His win goal was $1 million a week. Compared to his deposit, it seems like a struggle or an easy peasey thing to do. He wouldn't do bank wires, he didn't trust them.
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In the promo they call him a professional poker player I've heard others who interviewed him say the same. Anyone who's ever played with him or watched him play knows that's not true. Has he ever corrected anybody and set the record straight on that aspect?
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December 23rd, 2023 at 4:46:52 AM permalink
The announcer said this was a real money game at 3:16 into the video clip of this poker game. I'm not really aware of his poker playing yet. If he's banned from most of the casinos in Vegas, where is he playing poker, or are poker rooms exempt from the bans? Maybe this video pre-dates his bans. He said previously he had a 3 year run on gambling, winning $1 million the first year by winning $30K-$50K per week, minus some. He added a 0 onto that per week for year 2 and started running into resistance. I think the out of control party crowd he was with and the abuse of perks he was using got him into trouble with management. But by year 3 he's trying to make $1 million a week and the other casinos were shutting him down just for that. I don't know what the tolerance is for high rollers in Vegas is but he hit a tipping point that others just don't.
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Professional Gambler (Mikki Mase) Exposes Casinos For CHEATING
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I don't want to waste two hours of my life on this video. Can somebody summarize his argument and evidence for casino cheating?
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The announcer said this was a real money game at 3:16 into the video clip of this poker game. I'm not really aware of his poker playing yet. If he's banned from most of the casinos in Vegas, where is he playing poker, or are poker rooms exempt from the bans? Maybe this video pre-dates his bans. He said previously he had a 3 year run on gambling, winning $1 million the first year by winning $30K-$50K per week, minus some. He added a 0 onto that per week for year 2 and started running into resistance. I think the out of control party crowd he was with and the abuse of perks he was using got him into trouble with management. But by year 3 he's trying to make $1 million a week and the other casinos were shutting him down just for that. I don't know what the tolerance is for high rollers in Vegas is but he hit a tipping point that others just don't.


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I have seen in other interviews where people ask him if he was a troublemaker doing things that would get him banned from the casinos. He was basically saying, no, it's just because I'm winning. And yet, in this interview, he tells the story of how he is purposely throwing a big party and giving people the tools and encouragement to start maximum mayhem as a distraction. Apparently, even a fire was started in a villa.

I would say getting tossed out in that situation has nothing to do with winning or losing. I don't care if you're depositing 3 million into a casino or not if you're throwing a party with a thousand people who are starting fires and Villas and you've encouraged this type of behavior the casinos on the hook for a lot more liability than your casino action.
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December 23rd, 2023 at 7:15:35 AM permalink
Surely there are off the chain DJ parties at Resorts World every week, but this was somewhere else, like the MGM Grand.
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December 23rd, 2023 at 7:45:38 AM permalink
I'm all but certain he hasn't reverse-engineered the casino's cheating and is using that against them.
He talks about wanting to sell his secret sauce for 50 million dollars. That's all BS because he knows no one's going to pay that amount therefore he never has to reveal his non-existent secret sauce. I love how he says if someone just makes one little mistake they'll end up losing. And yet, he claims to have the ability to win 80% of his sessions and he's reverse-engineered the casino's cheating him and he's using that against them. Somehow just one little mistake is going to turn you into a loser? I guess it's possible but it's just not adding up.

After listening to the interview I'm fairly certain this is some big clever marketing scheme "I'll use my money to gamble at no risk to you and I will split any winnings with you, if you're qualified"
Okay, that's probably true. Some lucky "qualified" person will get this opportunity, perhaps multiple people will get the opportunity. In the meantime, they are getting hundreds of thousands/ millions(?) of leads.... phone numbers, names, emails, and pre-qualifying people for something sports or gambling related.

If you go back during this interview that interview you can see where he was in this type of lead business.

Mickey talks a lot about beating baccarat and blackjack for others. I have yet to see where he talks much about sports betting and making money doing that. So why are there so many questions related to sports betting

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December 23rd, 2023 at 9:21:56 AM permalink
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I don't want to waste two hours of my life on this video. Can somebody summarize his argument and evidence for casino cheating?
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I will not spend one second watching another one of his videos. I've seen enough of them to realize the guys a total scammer. He lies about everything, the so-called evidence he produces is easily faked. He likes to claim that he's this world class poker player but I think somebody here pointed out that professional poker players welcome him into their games because he's such a loser. Nobody is afraid of him. It's the tattoos that were my first warning, it's been my experience that anybody who gets that many tattoos has serious psychological problems. And that's backed up by modern psychiatry. I saw one video where he did an interview and he was analyzed by a body language expert and the expert said he was totally lying about everything most of the time. And no I'm not going to look for the video. One of the giveaways with him is that when people recount different exciting parts of their life even years later they tend to express some kind of emotion while they're doing it. This guy expresses no emotion ever, because he's making it up as he goes along or it's a made-up story that he's used to telling.
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December 23rd, 2023 at 9:29:46 AM permalink
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I don't want to waste two hours of my life on this video. Can somebody summarize his argument and evidence for casino cheating?
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He doesn't have any evidence nor does he even explain in any way whatsoever how the casinos are cheating. In my opinion, this is all one big well-planned marketing scheme from the beginning.
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December 23rd, 2023 at 9:50:27 AM permalink
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He doesn't have any evidence nor does he even explain in any way whatsoever how the casinos are cheating. In my opinion, this is all one big well-planned marketing scheme from the beginning.
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He never has any real evidence that can't be easily faked. In one video he presents copies of last year's income tax forms that show he made hundreds of thousands of dollars. Of course these are extremely easy to fake, you can fill out forms to say anything you want them to say and even find a convincing rubber stamp that they were made out by a reputable tax preparation firm. Of course the commentator bought it entirely. People will believe whatever they went there wanting to believe, and everybody wants to believe this guy is for real.
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December 23rd, 2023 at 10:07:40 AM permalink
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I'm about an hour in where he's explaining how he uses a $3 million cashiers check for the cage to hold and give him chips for, then he comes back after winning and gets his check back and cash back for the winnings. He needs big deposits like that for his high betting limits. He'd bet $250K/hand on Baccarat; $75K/hand on a BJ shoe, or $35K/hand for 2 hands, or $25K/hand for 3 hands, or $50K/hand on BJ double deck. So these are significantly higher stakes than typical posted limits. His win goal was $1 million a week. Compared to his deposit, it seems like a struggle or an easy peasey thing to do. He wouldn't do bank wires, he didn't trust them.
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I didn't watch the video posted in the beginning of this thread but someone sent me this one



about a month ago for my opinion.

C.Change so you're saying he buys in with cashier's check for front money, then takes all his winnings in cash? If so, that implies that his goal is to impress his online audience with stacks of cash because no serious player would take large winnings in cash that just opens you up to CTRs that might need to be explained both because of casino withdrawals and bank deposits. $50K, even $100K, okay maybe, but when I cash out those stacks it might be because I have a specific need for the cash, and in general, I prefer casino checks to cash for my winnings. Also if Mikki keeps putting cash into his bank accounts to buy those cashier's checks that also gets him CTRs when the source of a cashier's check is tied directly to those sums of cash, which could lead to getting his bank accounts shut down.

Point is that if in fact he's winning those amounts and he is choosing deliberately to cash his chips for cash only versus casino checks, he must really think it's worth all the potential headaches with the government and his banks. OR, he's not really winning and he's just converting some of his chips to cash because the casino won't give him any checks because he has no verified net wins.

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C.Change, you have seen videos where he is betting $75K a hand at blackjack? Typically they won't allow anyone no matter how much he has in credit or front money to go beyond $25K a hand, although they will allow $25K x multiple hands at blackjack.

$500,000. is the max anyone is allowed to play at Baccarat per hand, but that requires more than $3M front money / credit line. I'd think that he'd need more like $5,000,000. front money to bet $250K at Baccarat, but you're saying you've seen videos where he has bet $250K in one hand of Baccarat?
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December 23rd, 2023 at 6:13:37 PM permalink
Interesting video about his description of the faulty baccarat display.

I have not seen video of Mikki play anything except what I posted earlier in this thread, I haven't looked. It's a new subject for me and hard to digest. It takes a few months for a new interview from him to come out to make things clearer. We're coming from the Paul brothers YouTube insanity crowd which I disregarded years ago, probably when one of them got socially cancelled in a Japanese cemetery. But there's still Las Vegas native Tana Mongeau around who sports her podcast "Cancelled!" based on her getting cancelled socially.

Mikki did say he used to take checks for winnings and in the interview above he explained that he wouldn't cash them right away and would stockpile the checks sometimes past the point of expiration and have to get a reissued check. In theory, he could use the same cashiers check for $3 million and use that for front money over and over and he says he won 80% of his sessions in the interview, so he'd cash out some winnings. He could take a check or cash for his winnings, but at some point he just went with cash because he didn't trust casinos to not cancel their checks on him without notice anymore. Of course if he keeps checks lying around too long, they expire; money doesn't.
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December 23rd, 2023 at 7:49:54 PM permalink
I have bankers who know I play in casinos, but they are friends who wouldn't hold it against me - because they are casino players themselves (I sometimes put them up in free suites). At least one of these bankers once suggested that I take my big wins in bank wires because it would be a federal crime if the casino didn't follow through and wire it, but I'm not so sure - I never looked into what exact crime would be involved.

When the casino agrees to wire the money you don't get anything in writing, just a verbal statement that they will send the wire. Yes, that sort of thing walking away from the cage presented with just a verbal promise that it will be handled, seems sketchy.

However, I do know that once they issue a check they'd be looking at a pretty heavy gaming violation if they didn't honor it. And in that case you have a physical check to prove that you were supposed to get paid, a check that is marked "verified pit winnings" or similar verbiage.

It's one thing to sue someone to get back the money (a la Phil Ivey) quite another to pay it and then try to stop the method of payment.

The due diligence they do is at the moment the chips are presented - if there is an issue they won't accept cash the chips at all.

Anyway, it sounds good for someone like Mikki to say "I don't take checks because I am worried they will stop them" but where's the evidence? I have shown Wizard hundreds of thousands of dollars in checks marked "verified pit winnings" to whom has Mikki shown any checks? And if no one has seen Mikki play blackjack at $75K one hand or Baccarat $250K one hand or there is no video of him placing those bets, then it doesn't seem, given how much video he does seem to have of his play (correct?), that it ever happened.
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December 23rd, 2023 at 10:04:13 PM permalink
I'm not sure he was ever playing casino games for social media like you see from slot/table players ala Victor/Slotlady Channel. He's got his own secret sauce that he wants to keep secret and he's dealing with celebs who may not appreciate the name dropping. He was just playing for himself & others AFAIK. He implies he just used the win/loss statements from the casinos to figure out his tax forms. I don't know how he separates what he won for others from what he won for himself; maybe by Player's Card.

I've heard once before by another player, maybe it was someone on another forum, who said they don't trust casino checks anymore because casinos can stop payment on them before you get to the bank, and that wasn't related to late cash-ins of checks at the bank. Yeah, if you get 86'd from a casino, they might stop your checks that are outstanding, I don't know. It's possible to be at one casino and get 86'd from a few others on the same day too. Sounds shakier than a bitcoin exchange going down.

Mikki didn't like the wire the bank money process because there's a few steps or offices to go through before the send button gets punched and it takes a week for the deposit to clear. Maybe FedNow could clear this up soon? I'm not holding my breath. And there's no receipt when you walk away from the counter, so it's like you kissed your money goodbye anyway.
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February 2nd, 2024 at 12:21:31 AM permalink
Just channel surfed into Mikki Mase telling his story on the Discovery Channel (DSCHD, Ch 22 for me) on Hustlers Gamblers Crooks S1 E1 $4.5 Million Gamble episode.
Should be on again at 3 pm ET Friday and 10 AM ET on Sun. Feb 11th. It's an hour long show.
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February 2nd, 2024 at 2:45:45 AM permalink
Why don't the public force these Gaming Control Boards from casinos cheating, and bullying patrons who win, from their Mob like intimidation?
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February 2nd, 2024 at 4:29:45 AM permalink
Seems casinos keep hiring extras from Central Casting straight out of the mob movies.
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February 2nd, 2024 at 6:34:23 AM permalink
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I don't want to waste two hours of my life on this video. Can somebody summarize his argument and evidence for casino cheating?
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He says the cheating comes from well above the floor level, as in executives, but the specifics of how they cheat players and how he beat it is what he's selling for $50 million dollars. He's not giving it away. But he claims what he does is, he figured out how the casinos cheat people, and reverse-engineered it to defeat it. He also says he won 80% of his sessions, and only played blackjack or baccarat, but negotiated high limits per hand. He mentioned in passing something about not playing any one thing for very long in order to avoid the consequences of the law of large numbers.

He also tells some anecdotes about how the casinos start with great perks, and when they wanted him gone, first they gradually took those perks away, and pulled some crap like blocking the wifi in his room, or locking him in an elevator, other crap.

He also said his biggest single win session was around 11m in a day - 8-something at MGM, 2.8 or so at Venetian. He played for a year at 30-50k /week, then a year at 300-500k / week, but the 2nd half of that year he started getting backed off. He's down to 1 unnamed place where he brings celebrities to play, and 1 backup place in all of LV.

He also mentioned how he used to play in tournaments, into which they comped him into quarterfinal rounds, some worth 1-2m in promo chips, and he would go play those off at baccarat
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February 2nd, 2024 at 9:10:21 AM permalink
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I have bankers who know I play in casinos, but they are friends who wouldn't hold it against me - because they are casino players themselves (I sometimes put them up in free suites). At least one of these bankers once suggested that I take my big wins in bank wires because it would be a federal crime if the casino didn't follow through and wire it, but I'm not so sure - I never looked into what exact crime would be involved.

When the casino agrees to wire the money you don't get anything in writing, just a verbal statement that they will send the wire. Yes, that sort of thing walking away from the cage presented with just a verbal promise that it will be handled, seems sketchy.

However, I do know that once they issue a check they'd be looking at a pretty heavy gaming violation if they didn't honor it. And in that case you have a physical check to prove that you were supposed to get paid, a check that is marked "verified pit winnings" or similar verbiage.

It's one thing to sue someone to get back the money (a la Phil Ivey) quite another to pay it and then try to stop the method of payment.

The due diligence they do is at the moment the chips are presented - if there is an issue they won't accept cash the chips at all.

Anyway, it sounds good for someone like Mikki to say "I don't take checks because I am worried they will stop them" but where's the evidence? I have shown Wizard hundreds of thousands of dollars in checks marked "verified pit winnings" to whom has Mikki shown any checks? And if no one has seen Mikki play blackjack at $75K one hand or Baccarat $250K one hand or there is no video of him placing those bets, then it doesn't seem, given how much video he does seem to have of his play (correct?), that it ever happened.
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So now your a bigger player than Mikki.

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February 2nd, 2024 at 9:12:40 AM permalink
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I have bankers who know I play in casinos, but they are friends who wouldn't hold it against me - because they are casino players themselves (I sometimes put them up in free suites). At least one of these bankers once suggested that I take my big wins in bank wires because it would be a federal crime if the casino didn't follow through and wire it, but I'm not so sure - I never looked into what exact crime would be involved.

When the casino agrees to wire the money you don't get anything in writing, just a verbal statement that they will send the wire. Yes, that sort of thing walking away from the cage presented with just a verbal promise that it will be handled, seems sketchy.

However, I do know that once they issue a check they'd be looking at a pretty heavy gaming violation if they didn't honor it. And in that case you have a physical check to prove that you were supposed to get paid, a check that is marked "verified pit winnings" or similar verbiage.

It's one thing to sue someone to get back the money (a la Phil Ivey) quite another to pay it and then try to stop the method of payment.

The due diligence they do is at the moment the chips are presented - if there is an issue they won't accept cash the chips at all.

Anyway, it sounds good for someone like Mikki to say "I don't take checks because I am worried they will stop them" but where's the evidence? I have shown Wizard hundreds of thousands of dollars in checks marked "verified pit winnings" to whom has Mikki shown any checks? And if no one has seen Mikki play blackjack at $75K one hand or Baccarat $250K one hand or there is no video of him placing those bets, then it doesn't seem, given how much video he does seem to have of his play (correct?), that it ever happened.
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So now your a bigger player than Mikki.

How do you walk thru doorways with such a large noggin?
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February 2nd, 2024 at 2:14:14 PM permalink
I've seen a few of his videos. I find him kind of cringy. He makes claims and shows papers to back it up. Normally people like him would easily be disputed but no one seems to really be able to disprove what he says. He hasn't given any clues as to what his method is though. I find it annoying when people talk about such big thing and how money isn;t important and blah blah when talking about stuff like this and then are short on the details. Although he isn't trying to sell anything so not really sure what his angle is.
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February 2nd, 2024 at 2:27:59 PM permalink
My take is that he is either a trust fund kid who was never told "NO" growing up and got banned for throwing raging parties and other assorted acts OR he is a paid shill/grifter. I don't think there is any in between. I have seen videos of him playing poker. He is worse than me and I am straight ass.
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He ended the show saying he was doubling his money up at a few casinos one night and he got chased by supposed robbers. But what they did reenact was loading big amounts of cash into the back of his car. There were stacks of $10K wrapped in shrink wrap that had to be loaded onto a bell hop cart out to the car. I'd like to know how much money is in one of those shrink wrap kits. Is it $250K? Did they have 18 of those shrink wrap kits in the car?

He said he doubled up $500K to $1 million then went to another casino and doubled up to $2 million then went to a another casino and won to $3 million then went to another casino and got it up to $4.5 million in less than 3 hours. He was extremely impatient with the cages not counting the money fast enough.

A stack of 10,000 $100 bills, totaling $1 million, is about 43 inches thick.
$10 million in $100 dollar bills would weigh about 220 pounds. I suppose you could stuff that into a suitably large suitcase, but could you lift it?
The height of $50K is just under the height of a $100 bill


22 pounds plus the case - This may be a No Deal Fake


Can one million dollars fit in a wooden box?
Since 1969, the largest denomination of legal tender in the US is the $100 bill.

$1,000,000 is 10,000 Benjamins.

$100 are issued and stored in large quantities in bundles of 100, banded together as $10,000

100 of those bundles makes a million dollars.

Each bundle comes in at around 6&1/8" x 2&5/8"x 1/2″. Line up two rows of five stacks, ten stacks high, and youíre looking at an approximately 13 inch square piled 5 inches high.



There could have been nine half million dollar shrink wrap packs in the TV show, but I don't really know.
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February 2nd, 2024 at 5:27:09 PM permalink
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$10 million in $100 dollar bills would weigh about 220 pounds. I suppose you could stuff that into a suitably large suitcase, but could you lift it?
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(heavily truncated)

A briefcase full of $100's is about $1 million.
A big suitcase full of $100's is about $5 million. (And around 110 pounds.)

Heavier than that, I think you want at least two suitcases.
If memory serves, a loaded Army duffle bag is about 75 pounds.
I get annoyed trying to carry more than about 35 pounds any serious distance without a backpack or wheels.
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February 2nd, 2024 at 5:47:30 PM permalink
What does ten million in bitcoin weigh?
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February 2nd, 2024 at 10:31:03 PM permalink
I can carry two heavy duty plastic grocery bags filled with 2 gallons of milk each, that'd be 8 pounds times 4 which equals 32 pounds, or just under $1.5 million dollars, or $750,000 per bag. Not that I'm going far, just from here to there. I'd put three of those $1/4 million shrink wrap packs in each shopping bag if they would fit. I'd need 6 shopping bags to move $4.5 million, and I can do that with a shopping cart and my car.
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February 5th, 2024 at 9:13:20 AM permalink
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So now your a bigger player than Mikki.

How do you walk thru doorways with such a large noggin?
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February 5th, 2024 at 2:38:05 PM permalink
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He hasn't given any clues as to what his method is though.



He mentions looking at the road maps in baccarat as part of his method, which is immediately suspect. They don't tell you anything, other than what has already happened in the shoe. So just going off of that, it's clear he's just come up with some kind of "predictive" system and bets big off of what he thinks is coming up next. When you're betting $250k a hand it's not hard to just win a few hands and then claim you're a millionaire baccarat system player. I think he is someone who just started out rich and started gambling with the millions of dollars he already had. It's easy to chase losses and eventually get ahead with that kind of money.

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Although he isn't trying to sell anything so not really sure what his angle is.
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Social media clout. He has supposedly made millions already just from being online and telling his "stories" of being a whale.
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February 8th, 2024 at 7:09:47 AM permalink
So which one of you APs is going to sign up for Mikki's gambling "partnership" to reverse engineer it and see what his system supposedly is?
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February 12th, 2024 at 11:29:00 PM permalink
Soft White Underbelly Interview.


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March 11th, 2024 at 8:49:56 AM permalink
He's getting ripped to shreds in the comments, love it.

I think Mikki is an entertaining conman and that's absolutely fine to be when he's conning mostly multi-millionaire rappers.
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I think Mikki is an entertaining conman and that's absolutely fine to be when he's conning mostly multi-millionaire rappers.
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I disagree, strongly.
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I think Mikki is an entertaining conman and that's absolutely fine to be when he's conning mostly multi-millionaire rappers.
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I disagree, strongly.
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Which bit do you disagree with? That he's a conman or that that's absolutely fine?
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He's getting ripped to shreds in the comments, love it.

I think Mikki is an entertaining conman and that's absolutely fine to be when he's conning mostly multi-millionaire rappers.
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He's barely even a conman, though. He claims he can win, but he doesn't have a system he's selling. He's mostly just leveraged his BS into a "successful" online presence.
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March 11th, 2024 at 2:41:24 PM permalink
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Quote: ChallengedMilly

He's getting ripped to shreds in the comments, love it.

I think Mikki is an entertaining conman and that's absolutely fine to be when he's conning mostly multi-millionaire rappers.
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He's barely even a conman, though. He claims he can win, but he doesn't have a system he's selling. He's mostly just leveraged his BS into a "successful" online presence.
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You need to listen to the interview where he is talking about the valuable marketing leads/lists(interesting, stuff, it makes everything make sense to me)

Then find the link (I provided it previously) How they are looking for people, people who will get to free roll making money with Mikki's money. That's probably real, but it's just a select few and probably someone high profile. The might toss in a regular just to make it look good. A how Mikkii changed my life story would be great.

There's a survey/ questionnaire attached (I believe I provided a list of questions it asked) It's an obvious gambling marketing list.
Why so many sports betting questions? Millions of leads and only a few people will be chosen.
I'm sure they even have a way to manipulate the situation where everyone who is chosen to play with his money, ends up winning.
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Which bit do you disagree with? That he's a conman or that that's absolutely fine?
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That it is fine to con rappers. It's not right to con anybody.
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He's getting ripped to shreds in the comments, love it.

I think Mikki is an entertaining conman and that's absolutely fine to be when he's conning mostly multi-millionaire rappers.
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He's barely even a conman, though. He claims he can win, but he doesn't have a system he's selling. He's mostly just leveraged his BS into a "successful" online presence.
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I believe he has stated in several interviews that he cannot disclose his specific methods/techniques/approach/tricks/system (pick your favorite vocabulary), because he's selling it elsewhere.
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March 11th, 2024 at 7:51:44 PM permalink
This clown also did a beating Vegas video where he had someone go into a casino with a hidden camera and he told them what to do. Not sure if thatís even legal. 99 percent sure it isnít.
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March 12th, 2024 at 12:40:54 AM permalink
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Quote: TigerWu

Quote: ChallengedMilly

He's getting ripped to shreds in the comments, love it.

I think Mikki is an entertaining conman and that's absolutely fine to be when he's conning mostly multi-millionaire rappers.
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He's barely even a conman, though. He claims he can win, but he doesn't have a system he's selling. He's mostly just leveraged his BS into a "successful" online presence.
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I believe he has stated in several interviews that he cannot disclose his specific methods/techniques/approach/tricks/system (pick your favorite vocabulary), because he's selling it elsewhere.
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He isn't selling his system. It's for sale at a ridiculously high price he knows no one would be willing to pay.

He cannot sell a legitimate winning baccarat system, because he doesn't have one, at least not something he has led us to believe.

There's ZERO chance he has a consistent advantage that could allow him to offer people 50% free rolls.

Is it possible he has a small advantage? Is it possible he can beat the marketing department?

Yes, both are entirely possible, but that's not the song he is singing.
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Quote: Dieter

Quote: TigerWu

Quote: ChallengedMilly

He's getting ripped to shreds in the comments, love it.

I think Mikki is an entertaining conman and that's absolutely fine to be when he's conning mostly multi-millionaire rappers.
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He's barely even a conman, though. He claims he can win, but he doesn't have a system he's selling. He's mostly just leveraged his BS into a "successful" online presence.
link to original post



I believe he has stated in several interviews that he cannot disclose his specific methods/techniques/approach/tricks/system (pick your favorite vocabulary), because he's selling it elsewhere.
link to original post

He isn't selling his system. It's for sale at a ridiculously high price he knows no one would be willing to pay.

He cannot sell a legitimate winning baccarat system, because he doesn't have one, at least not something he has led us to believe.

There's ZERO chance he has a consistent advantage that could allow him to offer people 50% free rolls.

Is it possible he has a small advantage? Is it possible he can beat the marketing department?

Yes, both are entirely possible, but that's not the song he is singing.
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I'm fighting to understand where the demarcation is between "his system is for sale" and "he isn't selling his system".

I can believe nobody is buying.

I (facetiously) suggest a 3:30am infomercial, between the long reach toilet paper handle (so you can more easily wipe yourself), and the low quality nonstick cookware that comes with a free egg cracking and separating handle if you call in the next 9 minutes.
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There are more advantage plays at Baccarat than have been disclosed publicly, but I don't believe Mikki is aware of them.
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I'm fighting to understand where the demarcation is between "his system is for sale" and "he isn't selling his system".
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He is "selling" his "system" for $50 million. He knows no one will buy it for that, but if they're dumb enough to pay that much, he'll gladly take the money.
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March 12th, 2024 at 10:45:24 AM permalink
That is so 1996 of him, or banned gambler of him. I had dreams of winning $400 million at this. Guess I'll have to settle for $25 million or so.
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I think his angle is getting fools to invest with him for some split of the win. The general publicity is an added bonus.
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I'm fighting to understand where the demarcation is between "his system is for sale" and "he isn't selling his system".
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He is "selling" his "system" for $50 million. He knows no one will buy it for that, but if they're dumb enough to pay that much, he'll gladly take the money.
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I believe our usual standard is an offer of sale, not necessarily an actual transaction.

And yes, I would expect a transaction of that scale to involve some due diligence, and somehow that standard won't be satisfied.
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March 12th, 2024 at 1:52:33 PM permalink
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I think his angle is getting fools to invest with him for some split of the win. The general publicity is an added bonus.
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I'm not sure what his current marketing scheme is, but he was offering to fun 100% his fans play while giving them a 50% free roll(*see betting partnership ).

"Getting people to invest for a split of the win" seems too simple and short-lived as it's likely to be quickly exposed.
He/they have invested too much time, money(?) and effort into this for it to be that simple. I guess if he's looking for a handful of multi-million dollar investors. However, using that model on multiple people for smaller amounts would be exposed.

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March 15th, 2024 at 1:27:10 PM permalink
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There are more advantage plays at Baccarat than have been disclosed publicly, but I don't believe Mikki is aware of them.
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I'm sorry but bullhockey. If there are legitimate baccarat plays out there, Mikki clearly understand them. He has shown receipts of his win/loss record(of course this was only his personal account, not anyone he plays with.) If you have legit ways of winning like you claim you do, Mikki also knows what you know.

I am fairly positive, although not perfectly so, that Mikki is making his money based on favoritable rules and getting lucky with good shoes. Just like you most likely are.

I'm ignoring if someone is exploiting a weak dealer or the whole presorted cards scandal.
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March 15th, 2024 at 1:57:37 PM permalink
I don't know what proof he has posted - I doubt as much as I have. But in any case, if you believe Mikki is winning then you must believe MDawg is too. However, the ratio of my bankrolls to my wins is much greater than what his appears to be. I win very little given my average bet and per session bankroll.

As far as that explanation Mikki gave in the video C.Change posted - about how the house was cheating him in some way - that is the reason why I don't think he knows what I do or is doing what I do, because that sort of thing is way out in left field.
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