Drew a Royal!
... go on...Quote: KevinAAI have some statistics about the probability distribution of winning a royal flush given that you held 0,1,2,3,4 or all 5 cards to a royal flush from your dealt hand.
Quote: Romes... go on...
Lmao is this a na na na na na, I have the stats and you don't kind of thing?
Quote: KevinAAI have some statistics about the probability distribution of winning a royal flush given that you held 0,1,2,3,4 or all 5 cards to a royal flush from your dealt hand.
Well it depends. Are the card preshuffled in a Chinese prison?
Quote: Romes... go on...
People were mean to me in my slot machine thread so I am sitting on the results. But I am a forgiving person... let me finish my cup of coffee and then I will release them. Attacks like those in my slot machine thread will result in the figures not being released.
Quote: KevinAAPeople were mean to me in my slot machine thread so I am sitting on the results. But I am a forgiving person... let me finish my cup of coffee and then I will release them. Attacks like those in my slot machine thread will result in the figures not being released.
LOL
N=X if you do 1 Lap inside the Casino and cash out 3 times divided by the amount of spins on said machine equals 102.4% payback with no variance. If X=P you head directly to the restroom where P is always +EV!!
...and there are those of us whom had nothing to do with that and have no idea what you're even talking about (like me).Quote: KevinAAPeople were mean to me in my slot machine thread so I am sitting on the results. But I am a forgiving person... let me finish my cup of coffee and then I will release them. Attacks like those in my slot machine thread will result in the figures not being released.
A helpful tip - Let haters hate and just try to do what you think is right... but trying to show "I'm holding information, ask nicely!" is no way to go about it. I just enjoy reading (correct) statistical information on just about anything I can, but I in no way, shape, or form need your figures. Would it be nice to read them? Sure. Do I really want to or need to? Nope. Enjoy your coffee =).
Quote: monet0412LOL
N=X if you do 1 Lap inside the Casino and cash out 3 times divided by the amount of spins on said machine equals 102.4% payback with no variance. If X=P you head directly to the restroom where P is always +EV!!
I never said any such thing. Stop putting words in my mouth.
Quote: KevinAAQuote: monet0412LOL
N=X if you do 1 Lap inside the Casino and cash out 3 times divided by the amount of spins on said machine equals 102.4% payback with no variance. If X=P you head directly to the restroom where P is always +EV!!
I never said any such thing. Stop putting words in my mouth.
What did that guy in that Batman movie say... Why soooooo serious???
Quote: Romes...and there are those of us whom had nothing to do with that and have no idea what you're even talking about (like me).
A helpful tip - Let haters hate and just try to do what you think is right... but trying to show "I'm holding information, ask nicely!" is no way to go about it. I just enjoy reading (correct) statistical information on just about anything I can, but I in no way, shape, or form need your figures. Would it be nice to read them? Sure. Do I really want to or need to? Nope. Enjoy your coffee =).
single drawing double double bonus with a paytable 1-1-3-4-6-9-50-80-160-160-400-50-800
I wrote a program to go through all 2,598,960 (52 choose 5) possible initial hands. For each hand, the program selects which cards to hold using basic strategy. The program then outputs one row indicating whether a royal flush is possible (e.g., not possible if you hold a pair), and if possible, how many royal flush cards were held (0, 1, 2, 3, 4 or all 5). I didn't need the program to go through all possible drawn cards for the n to a royal flush hands because the probability of winning a royal flush given you hold n to a royal flush can be calculated exactly.
If you get a garbage hand with a 10 in it (2 3 7 8 10 different suits), the probability of winning a royal flush is 3 in 47 choose 5.
If you get a garbage hand without a 10 in it (2 3 7 8 9 different suits), the probability of winning a royal flush is 4 in 47 choose 5. If you hold a single J, Q, K or A (with no 10 same suit), the probability of winning a royal flush is 1 in 47 choose 4. Etc... holding 4 to a royal flush has a 1 in 47 chance of winning a RF, and of course being dealt a royal flush has a 100% chance of winning a RF.
Of the 2.6 million possible initial hands, 64% of them cannot result in a royal flush (hold a pair, or 4 to a flush, etc.). For the rest, I took the number of hands and multiplied by the probability of winning a royal flush to get the expected value for number of RF. I then took each n=0,1,2,3,4,5 to a royal flush expected values of winning a RF divided by the total to get the share of all RF's that started with n=0,1,2,3,4,5 to a royal flush.
n to a RF hands prob(win RF) 1 in exp val share of RF
0 no 10 58884 2.60767E-06 383,485 0.153549783 both zeroes below
0 w/10 52080 1.95575E-06 511,313 0.101855419 0.40%
1 585672 5.60648E-06 178,365 3.283558994 5.20%
2 201240 6.16713E-05 16,215 12.4107308 19.65%
3 25188 0.000925069 1,081 23.30064755 36.89%
4 936 0.021276596 47 19.91489362 31.53%
5 4 1 1 4 6.33%
total 63.16523617 100.00%
What this means is that of all royal flush winners, the most common ones held 3 to a royal flush -- 37% of them. That is followed by those who held 4 to a royal flush, 31.5%. Then 2 suited face cards, 20%, then a big drop to being dealt a royal flush, 6.33% of all royal flush winners, then just 1 face card at 5.2%, and the smallest share is garbage hand, only 0.4%.
The probability of being dealt a garbage hand and then winning a royal flush is 58884/2598960*2.60767E-06+52080/2598960*1.95575E-06 which is 9.82721E-08, or 1 in 10,175,830! No extra prize for that, but that's a royal flush win to be extra excited about, right? :)
When betting 1 or 5 doesn't make a difference.
And when it does ☹
Quote: Mission146Damn!
My thoughts exactly. I saw the diamonds and hit the hold then draw buttons so fast I didn't realize it was a royal until the credits racked up fast.
Quote: IbeatyouracesMy thoughts exactly. I saw the diamonds and hit the hold then draw buttons so fast I didn't realize it was a royal until the credits racked up fast.
Probably shouldn't do that in the future. If that T was a 9, then you'd be holding a flush over a 4-to-royal, which obviously wouldn't be the proper play.
Quote: RSProbably shouldn't do that in the future. If that T was a 9, then you'd be holding a flush over a 4-to-royal, which obviously wouldn't be the proper play.
It wasn't quite that fast. I knew it was a royal because the auto hold beat my fingers. I just hit the draw button immediately.
Nice Flop by the way... you got out of that bad session from spin poker pretty quick!!!
I made a few slots jackpots on dollar denomination that I almost posted to show that I will play small ball as well. Heck I'll play anything if I'm at 100% or over. I find beating reels consistently the most satisfying the last 10 years or so but VP is still king at 90% of my play.
Some really good news is that I found another glitch so I'm working that angle till they fix it!
I thought almost all machines AUTO-hold dealt royals for you? When a player on my team got a dealt royal (on triple play - with mults) the machine auto-held the hand for her.Quote: IbeatyouracesMy thoughts exactly. I saw the diamonds and hit the hold then draw buttons so fast I didn't realize it was a royal until the credits racked up fast.
Quote: RomesI thought almost all machines AUTO-hold dealt royals for you? When a player on my team got a dealt royal (on triple play - with mults) the machine auto-held the hand for her.
The only one that didn't lock mine was a sequential royal progressive. It took a second to realize it was a Royal and not a flush... after carefully holding and locking up the 50 cent Royal I asked slots if they would pay if I missed a card? The guy dismissed my question three times so I just gave up asking and didn't tip.
Quote: RomesI thought almost all machines AUTO-hold dealt royals for you? When a player on my team got a dealt royal (on triple play - with mults) the machine auto-held the hand for her.
It did auto hold. I saw the diamonds a nanosecond before seeing it was a royal. Just natural instinct to hit the hold and draw buttons. That's why I snapped the picture after the credits did the quick rack up from hitting the draw button so fast. If you notice in my other royal pictures, I let them rack up naturally without hitting the draw button.
Other royals I hit this year:
congrats!
$1 vp is usually $4k Royal at 5coins ($8k at 10coins).
I am shocked the Royal was worth double the amount!
I would have thought people would camp out there 24/7 in teams till it hit?
are all these casinos near where you live?
or do you travel a lot?
Quote: 100xOddsNathanV,
congrats!
$1 vp is usually $4k Royal at 5coins ($8k at 10coins).
I am shocked the Royal was worth double the amount!
I would have thought people would camp out there 24/7 in teams till it hit?
are all these casinos near where you live?
or do you travel a lot?
Thank you.
Getting a seat was not easy as it seemed like everyone in the casino knew about the play, although I don't suspect many or even any of them were experts. And thankfully no professional teams/campers were there, or at least if they were, they were not aggressive enough. I arrived at the casino and sat nearby to watch, pretended to play on a slot, and waited for about six hours before the previous player left, and then I sat down within a few seconds before anyone else could and played until I hit it.
I'd rather not say.
