Tipping a new craps player.

My cousin and i open a new table, (3 dollor min,10x odds) he SO , me SL1. 10 minutes later a twentysomething couple aproach the hook and the girlfriend places 25 on the field. The boyfriend says "hey thats a green chip not a red chip!"to her. Bam! Midnight...tripple the field! The bet and winnings sit there as both dont know what to do. I tell her "your bet won pick it up." Then she bets 5 on the pass no odds EVER, and he 5 on the field every roll. I begin to sence their knowlege of the game is limited but dont try to educate them . When its the girlfriends time to shoot she ends up shooting 8 passes within 35 rolls over 45 minutes. My rail is full of all black and purple and so is my cousins but as i look at the girlfried and boyfriends rail and ONLY see the 3 green she won from her initial field bet and around 20 red! We all color in and leave for the cage. The couple is so excited to have 2 black in their hands thats its almost comical concidering how long she held the dice. As we wait in line to redeem our winnings she reveals its her 2nd time playing craps. I told her she did awesome starting with 1 green and leaving with 2 black but told her she could have made a few more dollars if she made a few different bets. She asks "like how much?". I said "like this much!" as i hand her 1 purple. The couple are speechless then both give me a huge hug and thanks. I didnt want to tip them at the table as i wanted to tip them on a more personal level. I also did it in this way because 25 years ago a craps player did this for me.

Quote: PayTheLine

I didnt want to tip them at the table as i wanted to tip them on a more personal level. I also did it in this way because 25 years ago a craps player did this for me.

That's cool!

Triple on the 12 is nice - what state was this?

Washington state.

Its hard to do things like that when the table is packed and its hard to "show up the guy" that he doesn't know how to play craps in front of his girlfriend.

You probably handled it well and far more tactfully than one crew I had just stiffed after a lengthy roll in which I finally sevened out my lousy little five dollar bet. But hearing Dealer say to Box 'He could have really hurt us if he had known what he was doing' was a wake up call.

Quote: FleaStiff

Its hard to do things like that when the table is packed and its hard to "show up the guy" that he doesn't know how to play craps in front of his girlfriend.

You probably handled it well and far more tactfully than one crew I had just stiffed after a lengthy roll in which I finally sevened out my lousy little five dollar bet. But hearing Dealer say to Box 'He could have really hurt us if he had known what he was doing' was a wake up call.

I have learned unsolicited craps advice is about the same as unsolicited golf advice. Last time I played I had a smile on my face as a loudmouth lout had $50 pass and no free-odds at a $5 table. I'll explain anything I know to anyone who asks, but it ends there. And I tip the crew, not players. The crew does all the work, you don't tip the person at the next table at a restaurant who you asked what that great-looking meal was, do you?

You're a class guy in my book, PaytheLine. It sounds like they were betting conservatively enough that they didn't turn around and lose the purple, either.

Quote: AZDuffman

And I tip the crew, not players. The crew does all the work, you don't tip the person at the next table at a restaurant who you asked what that great-looking meal was, do you?

"BAM! Midnight."

I'm going to start using that! That's great!

Whaat?! That's super-generous, man. God bless you. (I'm already going to hell :) )

I made several front line bets with FULL odds (5 with 50) which paid so the crew were was extra excited durring the action.....

The crew has NOTHING at risk...the PLAYER has ALL the risk....so when it comes to tipping someone who has made me a good amount of money for me i believe in showing some gratitute.One might not agree with this but it works for me as well as the reciever. Craps is a social game and i believe in bringing good kharma to the game.

I doubt I have ever directly tipped a player. I have and do tip my dealers, especially if they are keeping track of what i am doing and almost "running my bets" for me. They know me and my strategery, and will almost do it automatically.

I have on about 3 occasions made a 3way hard way bet. Me, shooter, and crew if the hards are hitting, 5-1-1. always interesting to watch a shooter get money they didnt bet.

I have been give a few bets this way, and when won, used a few of the proceeds to tip the crew. I have also received a few tips after an absolute monster roll. The roll happening about once every 3 months, the tip once a year.


On a different note i have have given up my "spot" on the rail to a shooter I know is fairly skilled. We both were making high tail for the same table, arriving about the same time to SR1. He asked if he could have the spot. I looked at him and recognized him from previous trips. He has had several phenomenal rolls, and is normally consistent at hitting inside numbers. I have made good money with him in the past. I said sure you can have it, and took a spot 2 from base.
With in a few minutes the current shooter had 7ed out, and the dice passed to the other guy. 5 passes, 30 minutes and 1100$ later I was out. As was he. On our way to the cage he said thanks, I said... hell thank you ! Great roll my friend, Ive seen you shoot before and had good luck. Figured you would do more than me from there, so it was all yours.
Craps, sometimes it is a team sport.

Quote: Beethoven9th

How do you know that he didn't tip the crew as well?

Looks like that was answered a few posts above. I was simply going to say he didn't say he did and I didn't say he didn't.

Pay the line, I think that is awesome, I imagine that the young couple went out for a night for fun with a few hundred that is thier entertainment money and you made thier year. I for one can relate to this. I have been poor and then not poor. BUT when I was poor, if someone did that for me, I would have kissed thier feet. Like you said the plaers have all the risk even in entertainment.

I think that is one of the nicest things I have heard at the casino

Quote: chefphydeaux

I have on about 3 occasions made a 3way hard way bet. Me, shooter, and crew if the hards are hitting, 5-1-1. always interesting to watch a shooter get money they didnt bet.

I have done that too. 1-1-1 for my cheap ass. I dont think it ever hit, but it adds to the camaraderie and excitement at the table. I dont know why, but 99% dealers always want the action.

I have never tipped a shooter or have been tipped, although in my limited play the best I have seen is a "good" roll, never anything great or verging on epic.

It's your money, do with it what you want. Just remember that that person didn't actually win you any money. Bets are bets and odds are odds. If you go on a $5k streak, you'll eventually lose it back unless you never play the game again (unlikely). So you're basically giving them money from your future bankroll.

I've seen people make $1 bets for the shooter, that's a nice thing to do but you'll never see me doing it. I've grown into just tipping dealers directly, it annoys me when I put tip money down and then lose.

" It's your money, do with it what you want. " Truer words were never spoken .

I had somebody tip me once after I pointed out a loose $25 chip that had fallen under the table near his feet.
He told me to put it on the field and keep it if it hit as a reward for my honesty.
Then he proceeded to roll a 2 for a triple field payout...

I've mentioned it before, but I feel like repeating the only time I was ever "tipped" as a shooter. This happened at the Flamingo earlier this year.

I walked up to a table and started betting dark side; the table was ice cold and I was winning while everyone else was losing. One guy was losing about 10x what I was winning, I remember at one point he had $600 each on the 6 and the 8 place bets. Anyway I get the dice and as is my wont, shoot from the don't saying I won't! The guy is super pissed about the "negative energy" I'm bringing to the table and during my roll (after I've established a point but before I've hit it/seven'd out) decides he wants to really inspire me to hit the point instead of sevening out, as if I'm more than just a human RNG. He puts a black chip on the pass line in front of me, essentially hoping I'll "try" to hit my point instead of sevening out (I'm pretty sure I had a $25 DP bet plus 2 or 3 $25 DC bets, all backed up with full odds).

Long story short, I seven'd out, lost my "tip", the guy lost all his money, and I'm happy he didn't try to beat me up in the elevator.

you should have immediately hedged it such that you were guaranteed to win some amount off sevening out. haha.

Quote: sodawater

you should have immediately hedged it such that you were guaranteed to win some amount off sevening out. haha.

I mean technically I was guaranteed a win no matter what. Seven out = win all of my bets. Hit the point = win his bet for me.