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February 11th, 2023 at 5:53:53 AM permalink
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I have now won something (anywhere from a few grand to mid five figure grand) in EVERY SINGLE DRAWING I have participated in in Vegas. All free entry, although a couple did require some play over a period of time prior to the drawing. Most required to be present to win anything, although one did not.

These are drawing for the ultra elite where there are around fifty participants, and usually ten prizes, so the odds of getting something are actually pretty good.
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I was asked to visit here to talk about a recent claim that went unchallenged. The claim is this individual has never lost a casino drawing, which we all dream could be possible. The claim is these are elite drawings with 50 entires and 10 winners. Or a 20% chance of winning in any drawers if the odds of winning are balanced. If this is the case and the claimant has entered 5 drawings lifetime the odds of winning in all 5 are 1 in 3125. Possible in a rare occurrence but most will say not likely. If he has entered 10 drawings with the same odds of winning the odds go up to 1 in almost 10,000,000.

Next we examine if these drawings are biased toward certain individuals legally or in the case of the Venetian situation years ago, illegally. This can be done by giving certain individuals far more entries to give desired customers better odds of winning. In this case you have a claim of 50 of the casinos Elite highest rollers in a drawing. Even in this situation some players are more importantly financially to the casino and drawings could used as an incentive to return losses to a player or encourage them to return.

In what case can anyone see a casino rewarding a player in this manner who claims to win on every trip? A player who claims to win hundreds of thousands during each trip which add up to annual 7 figure wins? Or would it make more sense to return some losses to a high roller in these drawings? Why would a casino provide incentives to a player who claims to win consistency and says the casinos even tell him he never loses? Any why is a casino allowing a player to spread 20-1 or more on DDBJ at high counts?

As we are not contesting the players claims in which case either he is beating the odds on these drawings or we have a situation where APís in Vegas need to be looking at these drawings closer for potential. And everything we based our play on considering sweat was a misgiving nightmare in our minds.

I am a first time member here who lives in Vegas and knows how things work in this town. Many here know me or know of me including Shack. I was directed to these claims over drinks recently and after first laughing saying everyone was in on it, I was told itís be going on for years. I was told to make sure this post follows the stated rules of this forum under the basis of debating the claim and not the individual. My IP will prove I am local and not hiding behind any hanky panky
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Welcome to the forum.

MDawgÖ. How many of these drawings would you say youíve participated in that you have never lost one? Do you think that everyone wins something on some of them?
AxelWolf
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February 11th, 2023 at 6:22:05 AM permalink
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I have now won something (anywhere from a few grand to mid five figure grand) in EVERY SINGLE DRAWING I have participated in in Vegas. All free entry, although a couple did require some play over a period of time prior to the drawing. Most required to be present to win anything, although one did not.

These are drawing for the ultra elite where there are around fifty participants, and usually ten prizes, so the odds of getting something are actually pretty good.
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I was asked to visit here to talk about a recent claim that went unchallenged. The claim is this individual has never lost a casino drawing, which we all dream could be possible. The claim is these are elite drawings with 50 entires and 10 winners. Or a 20% chance of winning in any drawers if the odds of winning are balanced. If this is the case and the claimant has entered 5 drawings lifetime the odds of winning in all 5 are 1 in 3125. Possible in a rare occurrence but most will say not likely. If he has entered 10 drawings with the same odds of winning the odds go up to 1 in almost 10,000,000.

Next we examine if these drawings are biased toward certain individuals legally or in the case of the Venetian situation years ago, illegally. This can be done by giving certain individuals far more entries to give desired customers better odds of winning. In this case you have a claim of 50 of the casinos Elite highest rollers in a drawing. Even in this situation some players are more importantly financially to the casino and drawings could used as an incentive to return losses to a player or encourage them to return.

In what case can anyone see a casino rewarding a player in this manner who claims to win on every trip? A player who claims to win hundreds of thousands during each trip which add up to annual 7 figure wins? Or would it make more sense to return some losses to a high roller in these drawings? Why would a casino provide incentives to a player who claims to win consistency and says the casinos even tell him he never loses? Any why is a casino allowing a player to spread 20-1 or more on DDBJ at high counts?

As we are not contesting the players claims in which case either he is beating the odds on these drawings or we have a situation where APís in Vegas need to be looking at these drawings closer for potential. And everything we based our play on considering sweat was a misgiving nightmare in our minds.

I am a first time member here who lives in Vegas and knows how things work in this town. Many here know me or know of me including Shack. I was directed to these claims over drinks recently and after first laughing saying everyone was in on it, I was told itís be going on for years. I was told to make sure this post follows the stated rules of this forum under the basis of debating the claim and not the individual. My IP will prove I am local and not hiding behind any hanky panky
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NEW BLOOD!!!!!!

Yeah, it was really needed since it's getting really stale up in here.

If you think this claim is unbelievable/highly unlikely, you haven't seen anything yet. The "I won in every drawing" claim is actually one of the more believable claims compared to the many others. You would have to go back to the beginning and view multiple forums to get the big picture.

You can start here https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/big-wins/36485-60-winning-hands-in-a-row/
While that isn't even close to the beginning, I would like to give you some continued laughs.

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When I used to play hand shuffled doubledeck Blackjack I'd feel as though the cards were "stuck" for a while after the decks were changed. By stuck I mean, not contributing to much wins for me no matter what the count.
Also, one night when I was beating the h out of the house at single deck, won sixty some hands in a row, they kept changing decks (although this had zero effect, I just kept winning every single hand anyway, that night), but it goes to show that even the house thinks that changing the deck lends to eliminating a player win streak.

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After the math was done(as if we needed any math to realize the absurdity of such a claim)Mike let him off the hook since he used the word SOME (won sixty some). Of course, whenever most people use that term in the way he did, it actually means more than 60. I.E. you lost count after 60 so it could have been 62, 65, 66, 61.... etc. And let us not miss what he titled the thread "60 WINNING HANDS IN A ROW"


Even if we were to lower it to 40-50 or if we added in a few losses during the 60 it's still an astonishingly outrageous claim. Perhaps he only won money in SOME 5 drawings.
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The Venetian, don't get me started. The ticket palming was just the thing that got exposed(not at the Venetian, but I have caught employees palming drawing tickets), but much more was going on at the Venetian.
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MDawg
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February 11th, 2023 at 9:20:03 AM permalink
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I was asked to visit here to talk


By whom?
I tell you itís wonderful to be here, man. I donít give a damn who wins or loses. Itís just wonderful to be here with you people. https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
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February 11th, 2023 at 9:30:18 AM permalink
It's really not that hard to jack the bet up and win more often than not on Advantage hands whatever the table game. Just a question of whether you are willing to do it, and have the bankroll to maintain the play long enough to reap the inevitable benefit.

Everyone knows MDawg wins. Just that a few are bothered by it, others are not.

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MDawgÖ. How many of these drawings would you say youíve participated in that you have never lost one? Do you think that everyone wins something on some of them?
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If I mentioned the exact number, anyone who is truly a Vegas resident and truly participates in any kind of high level Vegas casino action reading this forum could figure out exactly who I am, because this streak has been the topic of some discussion among a number of people.

Which gets back to that I don't believe that AxelWolf (or this new guy who claims that he is new anyway) have much to do with the high end Vegas casinos, because if they did, they would know something about what is going on, and has been going on. They obviously don't.
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February 11th, 2023 at 9:31:13 AM permalink
If there's 10 bingo games on a casino tour bus amongst 40 passengers, what is the likelihood of one passenger winning a bingo game on 5 bus trips in a row? I'm gonna say it's very lucky but not impossible.
MDawg
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February 11th, 2023 at 9:32:59 AM permalink
Well that's a 1/40 per game. What if there were only 5 passengers each trip.
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February 11th, 2023 at 9:35:24 AM permalink
It was a 90 minute bus ride, we keep playing bingo for $5 be back prizes.
If there were only 5 passengers, the bus tour would no longer be. The bus tours must be near capacity to be booked, 2/3rds full a likely minimum because somebody has to pay for the bus.
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February 11th, 2023 at 11:17:50 AM permalink
Quote: MDawg

It's really not that hard to jack the bet up and win more often than not on Advantage hands whatever the table game. Just a question of whether you are willing to do it, and have the bankroll to maintain the play long enough to reap the inevitable benefit.

Everyone knows MDawg wins. Just that a few are bothered by it, others are not.

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MDawgÖ. How many of these drawings would you say youíve participated in that you have never lost one? Do you think that everyone wins something on some of them?
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If I mentioned the exact number, anyone who is truly a Vegas resident and truly participates in any kind of high level Vegas casino action reading this forum could figure out exactly who I am, because this streak has been the topic of some discussion among a number of people.

Which gets back to that I don't believe that AxelWolf (or this new guy who claims that he is new anyway) have much to do with the high end Vegas casinos, because if they did, they would know something about what is going on, and has been going on. They obviously don't.
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I have no clue who the new guy is, or maybe I do, I don't F'n know.

If he knows The Wizard and he has been in Vegas Advantage Playing for a long time, there's a good chance I know him. Heck, there's a chance I had drinks with someome and WOV/WOO/The Wizard came up and I mentioned there's some ____________ making outrageous claims on WOV. I just can't imagine any AP I know would take the time to make an account just to post here on this type of nonsense. I have a feeling it might be someone that KJ knows.

Anyways, I do know that casinos are not rolling out the red carpet for players who have been beating them up year after year at just a few locations using advanced Advantage Play methods such as you claim, especially if what you are saying is true and the pit bosses know you and they know you are consistently winning.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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February 11th, 2023 at 11:23:46 AM permalink
Starve a troll and feed a fever, or is it the other way around?
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
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February 11th, 2023 at 11:30:50 AM permalink
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I just can't imagine any AP I know would take the time
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Which gets back to that I don't believe that this new guy who claims that he is new anyway has much to do with the high end Vegas casinos, because if he did, he would know something about what is going on, and has been going on. He obviously doesn't.


Aren't we saying the same thing?
I tell you itís wonderful to be here, man. I donít give a damn who wins or loses. Itís just wonderful to be here with you people. https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/

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