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Wellbush
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September 11th, 2021 at 3:52:01 PM permalink
Quote: billryan



That is not accurate. If you receive your third card before she does, your actions absolutely affect her cards.
In the long run, your actions will even out, but in the short term every decision you make directly changes her potential hand. I wouldn't change my decisions, but your choices absolutely effect the players that come after you.

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    no, i was on her left, which i presume would be the same as in the US. so she got dealt before I, which made her accusation even more ridiculous
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    Marcusclark66
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    September 11th, 2021 at 4:01:58 PM permalink
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    Had one the other night where a player got so upset with another he actually swatted his stack of chips and then slugged the guy for making the wrong decisions when to pull as well.

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    were you on duty or playing?
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    On duty at the property I was working at.
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    AxelWolf
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    September 11th, 2021 at 4:19:45 PM permalink
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    As usual, I had some bird sitting near me complain about my BJ play. trying to tell me I wasn't hitting when i should, and that it was effecting the cards she was getting, and making her lose. i tried telling her whatever i did had no effect on her, and that the continuous shuffle machine made sure of it. she wouldn't buy it. she was bleeding chips real fast, too. another at the table backed my case, too. that was more than enough for her and she up and left. meanwhile, i still had plenty of chips..the gall of her!

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    That is not accurate. If you receive your third card before she does, your actions absolutely affect her cards.
    In the long run, your actions will even out, but in the short term every decision you make directly changes her potential hand. I wouldn't change my decisions, but your choices absolutely effect the players that come after you.
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    I was going to say the same thing. Well said.
    ♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
    billryan
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    September 11th, 2021 at 4:26:06 PM permalink
    As your actions directly affect the dealer's hand, it also affects the players who went before you, as well.
    billryan
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    September 11th, 2021 at 4:28:39 PM permalink
    That could be the next Wellbrush Paradox. How can something that has zero long-term effect have a huge short-term one?
    FastEddie
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    September 11th, 2021 at 6:36:35 PM permalink
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    According to my wifi, there has been an FBI surveillance van parked down the block from me for the past few months. Maybe you could tap into their video feeds.
    I was most disappointed when I learned google earth wasn't going to be live. The possibilities were endless.

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    Bill my daughter always list her wifi as FBI Surveilance Van just to scare the tweakers in the neighborhood.
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    Wellbush
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    September 11th, 2021 at 7:36:01 PM permalink
    Quote: billryan

    As your actions directly affect the dealer's hand, it also affects the players who went before you, as well.

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    i'm not quite following you there. this is European bj in australia. there can be no effect on the dealer's hand. all hands are played from the right side of the table, to the left. there is no hole carding, no peeking, and no surrender. once the player's hands are dealt with, the dealer turns over his face down second card, and finishes his hand. payouts then ensue. no player on someone's left can effect players on their right, coz all players to someone's right have their hands completed first.
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    Wellbush
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    September 11th, 2021 at 7:38:42 PM permalink
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    Had one the other night where a player got so upset with another he actually swatted his stack of chips and then slugged the guy for making the wrong decisions when to pull as well.

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    were you on duty or playing?
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    On duty at the property I was working at.
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    the guy who slugged seems like a lunatic. does that happen often?
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    Wellbush
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    September 11th, 2021 at 7:41:45 PM permalink
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    That could be the next Wellbrush Paradox. How can something that has zero long-term effect have a huge short-term one?

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    i'm not saying there's any effect my friend. are you following what you yourself are posting?
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    September 11th, 2021 at 8:07:56 PM permalink
    Quote: Wellbush

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    As your actions directly affect the dealer's hand, it also affects the players who went before you, as well.

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    i'm not quite following you there. this is European bj in australia. there can be no effect on the dealer's hand. all hands are played from the right side of the table, to the left. there is no hole carding, no peeking, and no surrender. once the player's hands are dealt with, the dealer turns over his face down second card, and finishes his hand. payouts then ensue. no player on someone's left can effect players on their right, coz all players to someone's right have their hands completed first.
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    Players to the right can affect players to the left. You are right of dealer so your hits and stands affect dealer. What happens to dealer affects whole table.

    Easy example, you are the last player and have 12 vs dealer 3. You stand. Dealer turns over and 9 for 12 and draws a 9 for 21. Whole table loses. If you had hit your 12, as basic strategy advises, you would have had the 21 and dealer may have busted.
    The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong; but that is the way to bet.

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