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July 29th, 2021 at 12:10:13 PM permalink
the arguement isn't the number specified 10 to the x power of n over y of bankroll
no sir the arguement is can you or me or a machine guess wrong 1000 times in a row in this lifetime?
short answer is no. maybe in a trillion years when eevery atom had decayed to the last partical in a honest roulette table played through the ages.
so in theory if the casino said no limit and they honored my unlimited credit i could win 5$ until my lfiespan is over. i could see myself losing on the 50th bet or 80th bet
but 500th? 1000th? no again honest odds not in this lifetime
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July 29th, 2021 at 12:19:50 PM permalink
Quote: dawinnaatlozins

the arguement isn't the number specified 10 to the x power of n over y of bankroll
no sir the arguement is can you or me or a machine guess wrong 1000 times in a row in this lifetime?
short answer is no. maybe in a trillion years when eevery atom had decayed to the last partical in a honest roulette table played through the ages.
so in theory if the casino said no limit and they honored my unlimited credit i could win 5$ until my lfiespan is over. i could see myself losing on the 50th bet or 80th bet
but 500th? 1000th? no again honest odds not in this lifetime



I can think of a great many things that would be worse than death---and playing Roulette for eternity is pretty high on that list.

Playing Roulette for twelve hours is somewhere in the middle of the list.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
dawinnaatlozins
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July 29th, 2021 at 12:25:54 PM permalink
well people who say gambling for a living sucks are normally people with hi paying jobs, i think KJ said he would be a manager at a store like homedepot or something along those lines making 70k a year, and most people who say that never experienced a well-fare x mas =) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W05cPXpUHGI
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July 29th, 2021 at 12:28:48 PM permalink
The sentences the OP are using make this hard to read, and we all know the Martingale will not work because no one has infinite time and/or infinite money.

However, he does make a small point...

The point that even most casinos set their table min/max to where you can get 6 to maybe 8 on a stretch Martingales in a row, validates even they know that 10+ losses in a row, while it will occur, is unlikely. They may let you Martingale 6-7 times all day until you do get that big losing streak. Even the casinos don't want to chance a guy able to Martingale 10+ times. Let alone 1,000!
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July 29th, 2021 at 12:37:57 PM permalink
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I can think of a great many things that would be worse than death---and playing Roulette for eternity is pretty high on that list.

Playing Roulette for twelve hours is somewhere in the middle of the list.



I met a cab driver in Vegas who told he made $40-$60 every day playing roulette at the Wild Wild West. A week or so later, I was there playing what once was a good BJ game when I saw him come in. We talked and I asked if I could join him. We each bet a $1 on Red and won. He used an Oscars Grind , going between red-black and odd-even. If he bet red, he'd OG it until win and then switch to black. What followed was one of the most boring hours of my life. At the end, we were each up $7 and he was happy as a pig in bear shit. The dealer was as bored as we were, as we were the only players, and only smiled when I promised him I'd tip him half my winnings. I walked away with $3.
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July 29th, 2021 at 12:44:09 PM permalink
Quote: mwalz9

The sentences the OP are using make this hard to read, and we all know the Martingale will not work because no one has infinite time and/or infinite money.

However, he does make a small point...

The point that even most casinos set their table min/max to where you can get 6 to maybe 8 on a stretch Martingales in a row, validates even they know that 10+ losses in a row, while it will occur, is unlikely. They may let you Martingale 6-7 times all day until you do get that big losing streak. Even the casinos don't want to chance a guy able to Martingale 10+ times. Let alone 1,000!



If a guy martingales for ten times and wins on the tenth try, what has the casino lost? Or if he lost 999 times and won on the 1,000th? What did he win? I suppose it would be kool collecting the comps one might get from betting insane amounts of money, but in the end all you win is your original bet.
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July 29th, 2021 at 12:45:31 PM permalink
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If a guy martingales for ten times and wins on the tenth try, what has the casino lost



All the money they would have won had he been forced to stop at 6, 7 8 or 9!
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July 29th, 2021 at 1:18:29 PM permalink
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I'll have whatever you are on.

And then, have yourself some time off.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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July 29th, 2021 at 1:20:51 PM permalink
Thank ya Sir, Bob Dancer once said look onto the past for your future results! every game has its breaking point i whipped out frugal wolf video poker on pc and i can stumble upon the worst luck case scenario which was 300k hands results in a 38kish loss eventually i landed my RF like im suppose to. i dont have 8 to 10 bankrolls nor do i feel safe with a 10 MG bankroll id feel safer with 1000 step bankroll but the point is ebb and flow and the math of the game will work itself out, heck i read roulette forum a dozen can go missing in 40 turns might take 2-6 months to osberve that event but it happens, can it go missing 80 turns? 1000 turns? short answer no (assuming no cheating lol) alas you would be safe

every betting system fails and the reason why because if it can fail once it will fail again all guess programs fall apart but how many times can guessing wrong 1000 steps fail you? again we live in a world with tabls mins/max and limited bankrolls so it doesn't work (but it could )
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July 29th, 2021 at 1:24:22 PM permalink
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again we live in a world with tabls mins/max and limited bankrolls so it doesn't work (but it could )

NO IT CAN'T!!!!!
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪

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