supernerd
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March 3rd, 2020 at 3:22:34 PM permalink
Hello

I've been trying a little gambling for a few weeks
Actually tried Martingale a few times on roulette, nearly lost money few times, and now hating it and aware it's not working.

Realizing you can't really beat the roulette wheel, can someone set me straight on following 'system' on roulette ?

Playing on 'partage' table only (online)
Betting 6/4 units on red/3rd column or black/2nd column and 1 unit on Zero (european table so only one Zero)
This actually seems to pay out 36 + 3 (partage on the colors) = 39 on the Zeroes, so that is 38 profit on a 1/37 chance right ?
the color bets are needed to make use of the 'partage' system, the columns are probably just window dressing.

What do you think ?
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March 3rd, 2020 at 5:49:10 PM permalink
Assume you make 37 bets, and all 37 numbers come up once
5, 14, 23, 32: +6 on red, +8 on column, -1 on zero = +13
2, 8, 11, 17, 20, 26, 29, 35: -6 on red, +8 on column, -1 on zero = +1
Any of the other 14 red numbers: +6 on red, -4 on column, -1 on zero = +1
Any of the other 10 black numbers: -6 on red, -4 on column, -1 on zero = -11
Zero: -3 on red, -4 on column, +35 on zero = +28

Sum = (4 x 13) + (8 x 1) + (14 x 1) - (10 x 11) + (1 x 28) = -8
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March 3rd, 2020 at 11:17:26 PM permalink
Quote: supernerd

Hello

I've been trying a little gambling for a few weeks
Actually tried Martingale a few times on roulette, nearly lost money few times, and now hating it and aware it's not working.

I'm just curious, what was your thought process in the first place thinking it would work? My first question would be to myself... If it did work, why aren't there scores of people out there beating the casinos using this type of method, especially since it's such a simple system that almost anyone with money can do 24/7 365 worldwide?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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March 4th, 2020 at 3:51:02 AM permalink
I have taught a few people roulette in my 12 years of casino party nights. They all think this or that will work.

Sometimes early, sometimes at the end of the night I ask if they want the dirty little secret.

IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT YOU BET.

All the odds are geared the same. Bet a single number. Bet black. Bet odd. Bet the middle row. It does not matter.

In the end, we get it all.
All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others
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March 4th, 2020 at 5:15:38 AM permalink
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Hello
...
What do you think ?

Welcome to the forum.
Congratulations on finding and sticking to a table offering 'Partage' . That cuts the house edge to 1.35% but only for the even money bets. Your column wagers are still subject to an immutable 2.7% house edge, so I'll analyse your own analysis without those bets.
Bet 6 units on red and 1 unit on green
Do that 37 times and have each number come up in turn.
So. Each spin, you place 7 units on the table. In total, you place 37*7 = 259 chips.
of those 37 spins,
1 time it came up green zero and you pick up 36+3 = 39 chips
18 times it comes up red and you pick up 18*12 = 216 chips
18 times it comes up black and you pick up 0 chips.
Total staked =259 chips
Total returned = 39+216 = 255 chips
Return to player =255/259 =98.45%
House edge = 100-98.45 = 1.55%

As I understand it, you'd be better off not even bothering to cover the zero as that only pays out like any other number and is subject to the full house advantage.

E&OE
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supernerd
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March 4th, 2020 at 7:21:32 AM permalink
Thank you

There was an oversight in my reasoning after all (forgot to add the stake on color )

I think I get it already :-)

Playing Partage does seem like a way to play without much risk in an offline casino though, and maybe have a little profit in short term on
some occasions.
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March 4th, 2020 at 4:43:40 PM permalink
My betting system works on the physical layout and direction of the ball
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March 4th, 2020 at 5:56:45 PM permalink
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Playing Partage does seem like a way to play without much risk in an offline casino though, and maybe have a little profit in short term on some occasions.


Every "system" maybe has a little profit in short term on some occasions:
1. Bet
2. If your first bet wins, stop betting
3. Short term profit

Seriously, if I understand partage correctly (you lose only half your bet on an even-money bet if 0 comes up), this makes the house edge on red/black on a single-zero wheel 1.351% - one of the better bets in the casino.

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