The Adventures of MDawg
Quote: AxelWolfI'm not doing this s*** for just a hell of it(I don't need no glory). You've got to put up some decent money to make it worth it.
Quoted above
From page 128 of this thread
Quote: darkozPlease, identity what positive expectation table game is the casino offering?
I don't know of any positive expectation table game, but Axel may.
He wrote earlier of people he knew who played a table game with an advantage,
opposite bet each other, and got away with it.
But Axel doesn't have to play a table game, not to my understanding.
MDawg wrote that Axel would need to play a table game to match or beat his baccarat winnings, implying that machine play would not work for that purpose.
I could be reading that wrong, there's opportunity to clear up any misunderstandings.
But machine play could certainly work, if Axel knew in advance what number he needed to beat.
Quote: darkozQuoted above From page 128 of this thread
I hadn't considered that to be a stipulation that there must be a wager, I understood it to be more of an appearance fee.
But Axel can clarify that, it seems like he's willing to wager, but it's unclear to me that he requires a wager, especially considering his initial request to invite him & Mike.
Quote: coachbellyIt's not complicated to me...
The conditions are...
MDawg and the challenger each show up in Vegas with $50K
MDawg will play baccarat
The challenger may play his game of choice
At the end of 4 days MDawg's profit will be greater than the challenger's
If there are other conditions, I could have missed them.
I'm not sure there's a legitimate reason for any reader to discourage Axel from accepting the challenge, unless the reader has a financial interest in Axel's AP play, but to my understanding Axel has already accepted.
Yes that's all there is to it. I've made clear what the wager is from Day One, months ago, just Michael99000 never showed for it. Let's see if Axel will.
What anyone says means nothing. All talk. If Axel shows with fifty grand we may proceed. I know I will be there at some point after this coronavirus settles and it is safe to travel and be in LV, and Axel lives in LV, so why would he not show? It's just business as usual for him another day in his life he claims he plays in casinos every day. I have $50K lines at five major casinos on the Strip (I haven't played at the fifth line location yet, it was just opened, but any one of those five will do). If Axel wants to play at some casino where I do not have a line, I can bring $50K cash but it has to be a casino with a lot of midi-Bacc tables. I have not played as a cash player in Vegas ever, I am a line player, but for this contest if necessary, I could do it.
I play on a player card only, so it will be pretty easy actually to know what I won. At the end of the four days just ask my host he types into the computer it will be there. But, as far as Axel, who maybe plays under the radar, I suppose we need someone to watch him when he plays, and if someone wants to watch me that is fine too.
If someone asks me why I would do this - I just do this anyway, it would just be business as usual. From the way Axel describes himself, in a LV casino constantly, it would seem that it would be business as usual for him too. So why anyone would need to get paid to do what he does all the time anyway, I couldn't say.
Two years ago I might not have made this challenge, because I was returning after such a long absence and might not have been able to predict how it would go, but after winning so consistently for two years straight I am confident I will win.
No challenge has been accepted thus far I'm discussing the possibilities.(yeah I've seen your shenanigans claiming guys have backed out of bets when they've only done so because the conditions we're screwed) If the conditions are right and I have an advantage worthwhile I would be interested.Quote: coachbellyAxel plays whatever game he chooses...that's one of the conditions.
It doesn't have to be a negative expectation game, and it's almost certain that it will not be.
Assuming the amount is right I would be more than willing play a negative expectation game and lose money in order to gain Advantage from the side bet. My only goal would be make a profit from the bet.
I don't even know how this would work out, is somebody going to follow him around for 3 days while he makes his bets and keep track of everything? I certainly wouldn't be foolish enough to trust one's win loss statements. It sounds very convoluted
If I can play any game under any conditions, it certainly wouldn't be a fair bet since I could simply angle shoot the situation.
Is it safe?
so you have plenty of time to research the best (alleged) Advantage play for you. And then when the time comes, I assume you'd want to go and exploit that play anyway whether MDawg is there or not. Business as usual I'd think. So I don't see why you wouldn't accept the challenge.
Quote: AxelWolfAssuming the amount is right I would be more than willing play a negative expectation game and lose money in order to gain Advantage from the side bet.
That's the spirit.
If the wager is right, you can play baccarat alongside MDawg, copy his action, and you can't lose.
How much of a wager do you need?..I'm soliciting investors to bet on MDawg anyway.
Quote: MDawgWe have maybe quite some time until Vegas is safe
Is it safe?
so you have plenty of time to research the best (alleged) Advantage play for you. And then when the time comes, I assume you'd want to go and exploit that play anyway whether MDawg is there or not. Business as usual I'd think. So I don't see why you wouldn't accept the challenge.
So much talk about simplicity from guys who claim everyone is making this hard.
Simplicity:. Axel wants to know how much will MDawg pay him if he wins.
If the amount is zero, then Axel has no interest
That is pretty clear from Axel's posts
If MDawg is not confident he can win this (and therefore make even more profit by collecting from Axel when he loses) then it's pretty clear MDawg has no valid system
Axel has talked so much crap going back two years about me that he's the one who has something to prove - prove that all the crap he's been saying is true. I have nothing to prove. If he is so certain he can win at casinos and win more than MDawg, then he will show. If not, he won't. He isn't getting a penny for shooting off his mouth from me he'll have to win from the casinos the way he claims that he has been winning all his life, and if he's for real the casinos will line his pockets the way he claims they always have.
The bet has always been as such, so don't try to mix it up. You're not welcome in Vegas anyway unless...you maybe have fifty grand? More like...fifty Benjis, if that! 🤥
Quote: darkozAxel wants to know how much will MDawg pay him if he wins.
Axel wrote that he needs to be paid enough to make it worth his while.
Neither MDawg nor anyone else (besides Axel) knows how much that would be.
So instead of playing Deal or No Deal for several posts, it would be easiest if Axel would just name his number and move forward.
Quote: MDawgHe isn't getting a penny for shooting off his mouth from me he'll have to win from the casinos
Don't worry about all that, you just play your game.
I think Axel's action will be covered, it doesn't have to be by you.
But I can't be sure until we know what amount Axel needs to wager in order to make the challenge worth his while.
This part is not complicated at all.
Quote: coachbellyAxel wrote that he needs to be paid enough to make it worth his while.
Neither MDawg nor anyone else (besides Axel) knows how much that would be.
So instead of playing Deal or No Deal for several posts, it would be easiest if Axel would just name his number and move forward.
MDawg just said and repeatedly has said the amount will be zero.
Whatever amount Axel wants, it's gonna be more than zero.
This is again simplicity.
MDawg is too scared to risk additional money if he loses and not confident enough in his system to make a ton of extra money by winning
Sadly there are six year olds on school playground's willing to wager more on a side-bet than MDawg is willing.
No faith that he can make extra money by winning his bet, then his system is crapola
Quote: darkozWhatever amount Axel wants, it's gonna be more than zero.
You mean that Axel wants to wager more than zero....right?
How much does he want to wager?
You don't know, you have no idea other than "more than zero".
Does it matter to Axel whether MDawg has backers for the side bet?
You don't know that either...but take a guess anyway.
I'm like a professional sports player, I just play. The rest of you may bet on me. Or on Axel. I am sure it will turn out to be worth his while if he wins. In any case, let's see if he wants a chance to prove that all that crap he's been talking about me is true - that's at the core of all this as far as I am concerned. If he whiffs the same way Michael99000 whiffed then I hope he has the decency to put a sock in it from here on out.
Quote: coachbellyYou mean that Axel wants to wager more than zero....right?
How much does he want to wager?
You don't know, you have no idea other than "more than zero".
Does it matter to Axel whether MDawg has backers for the side bet?
You don't know that either...but take a guess anyway.
There are not going to be any backers of a side bet. That's my guess
MDawg has zero confidence in his system such that he is unwilling to wager extra, no one else is going to have confidence either
Not surprising.
Quote: MDawgThe bet is the same as it has always been.
I'm like a professional sports player, I just play. The rest of you may bet on me. Or on Axel. I am sure it will turn out to be worth his while if he wins. In any case, let's see if he wants a chance to prove that all that crap he's been talking about me is true - that's at the core of all this as far as I am concerned. If he whiffs the same way Michael99000 whiffed then I hope he has the decency to put a sock in it from here on out.
Nobody whiffed on you
There was no wager.
No one needs to waste time gambling for fun when they do it for money. If you want to make it valuable for an AP like Axel, put up or shut up
Quote: MDawgYou comments stem from a lack of understanding of what any of this is about.
Not surprising.
Deflection!
Make a wager. Put up or shutup
This involves principle and honor. Let's see if Axel is on the same page, or if at heart, he's just another guy who talks crap and then slinks away.
Do you want praise? Worship? Maybe you desire something a tad bit secretive from some of the members when your wife isn't around? I would like to close by saying you have to be the most demented person I have ever read about on a site like this. As everyone else is saying stay safe and stay inside and I see you've basically dropped everything you have been doing and you are dedicating yourself to The Forum now.
You might have maybe got away with the first sentence, but for the 'Demented' comment, you get 3 days suspension.
Stay safe.
Quote: OnceDearWelcome to the forum. If you've lurked for a while, I expect you know the rules.
You might have maybe got away with the first sentence, but for the 'Demented' comment, you get 3 days suspension.
Stay safe.
Quote: WizardI have removed a post by PokerGrinder that used to be here for reasons of protecting the privacy of forum members, much as a post by boz was removed from the forum for similar reasons.
We like to maintain evidence for the reason for a suspension/nuke, but we sometimes have to weigh that against civil decency and protecting privacy.
The post has been copied and preserved for discussion of sentencing.
Why did you sacrifice yourself?
Personal insults and f-bombs (with an asterisk at least) and political comments?
You should not be the casualty of this thread. You should not have let him provoke you (although I admit coming damn close a few times.)
I feel responsible in some ways. I was trying to expose him completely so dragged it out. Maybe they let me serve your 3 day sentence (um, if it's longer than that maybe not, this Coronavirus stay-at-home situation is killing me as it is)
(And no I don't have Coronavirus as of yet)
I mean, remember Richard Brodie's story? He was banned from all Caesars properties because he got lucky on video poker and won lots of money. He wasn't an AP; he just had a run of VP that was better than expectation. So, they banned him. They wouldn't even let him compete in the WSOP.
I think its clear that casinos do not like consistent winners, even if they only play -ev games, and will take steps to insure they can't continue playing. Are there any casinos out there that don't mind if the same player keeps taking them for large sums of money?
And, for the record...
It's a heck of a lot easier to send eagles into Mordor after Sauron is dead!Quote: billryanGandalf sent the eagles to rescue Frodo after the poor hobbit literally went through hell to destroy the ring.
Why didn't he just have the eagles fly over Mt Doom and drop the darn thing in the first place?
Quote: JoemanI have a question. If the MDawg wins every time, why would the casinos keep inviting him back, let alone give him such lavish comps?
I mean, remember Richard Brodie's story? He was banned from all Caesars properties because he got lucky on video poker and won lots of money. He wasn't an AP; he just had a run of VP that was better than expectation. So, they banned him. They wouldn't even let him compete in the WSOP.
I think its clear that casinos do not like consistent winners, even if they only play -ev games, and will take steps to insure they can't continue playing. Are there any casinos out there that don't mind if the same player keeps taking them for large sums of money?
And, for the record...
It's a heck of a lot easier to send eagles into Mordor after Sauron is dead!
I thought that guy was playing high limit FPDW at an advantage?
Casinos consider BlackJack a game of skill, versus Baccarat they view as a game of chance. Win too much at BlackJack, they will ban you (been there). Win too much at Baccarat (been there) they do nothing.
Yeah, he did hit that monster royal on FPDW, but it wasn't his fault Caesars set it for FPDW, and I don't think they left the paytables there for very long. I gather that most of his play was on -EV video poker. Plus his blog infers that several whales got 86'ed.Quote: unJonI thought that guy was playing high limit FPDW at an advantage?
No, I don't go to the casinos everyday nowadays. I've been doing this stuff since the early 90s and it's just not same anymore. I go when it's necessary or something really good comes up. I'm not into vulturing, thin edges and playing for comps and whatnot. There's no sense in even negotiating until the casinos open and you know you're planning on coming to Las Vegas. It's Just going to become a clusterF**k it's unnecessary back and forth and everything goes to sh*t. I've seen it before time and time again.Quote: MDawgAxel goes to casinos every day, right? When they are open anyway. So, show up for four days and play in the same casino as I do and let's see who wins more. That's about all there is to it don't make it complicated.
As I posted before, Vegas will need to be safe for me to go there with my wife. Let's hope that is by sometime in May, which is when the next trip is scheduled.
At some point I will be there again, and I will be playing, so it seems like we should be able to arrange something.
Quote: JoemanI have a question. If the MDawg wins every time, why would the casinos keep inviting him back, let alone give him such lavish comps?
I mean, remember Richard Brodie's story? He was banned from all Caesars properties because he got lucky on video poker and won lots of money. He wasn't an AP; he just had a run of VP that was better than expectation. So, they banned him. They wouldn't even let him compete in the WSOP.
I think its clear that casinos do not like consistent winners, even if they only play -ev games, and will take steps to insure they can't continue playing. Are there any casinos out there that don't mind if the same player keeps taking them for large sums of money?
And, for the record...
It's a heck of a lot easier to send eagles into Mordor after Sauron is dead!
Then he could have had them drop him off at the border.
Aragorn fought out four Nazgul at Weathertop, Gandalf scatters them covering Faramir's retreat, and unlike in the movie,Gandalf is able to keep the Lord of the Nazgul from entering the city when the gate is broken.
I'm a big wrestling fan and one of its time honored traditions is the "Loser leaves town " match. Seems like it fits this situation like a glove.
There are well-known scams going around, not terribly difficult to figure out, but I'm sure they'll be interested in it.
Remember other people including surveillance at most properties do read these forums.
Have fun and a good day.
Quote: WizardFull names redacted in the interests of protecting privacy. Warning issued to poster to me mindful of forum rules, especially respecting the privacy of not just forum members, but everybody.
This would create a tough spot for MDawg.
Now, one would have to have an MDawg spotter and an Axelwolf spotter, because any host worth his salt could massage statements to create a look for MDawg, and Axelwolf could have any number of tickets.
I'm surprised nobody has brought up the issue of trusting a host's or casino's statement regarding win/loss for a trip. What, you're dealing with angels sent from God? LOL. It's a pretty big hole. You have to have a spotter.
Quote: redietzI'm surprised nobody has brought up the issue of trusting a host's or casino's statement regarding win/loss for a trip. You have to have a spotter.
Quote: AxelWolfis somebody going to follow him around for 3 days while he makes his bets and keep track of everything? I certainly wouldn't be foolish enough to trust one's win loss statements.
Quote: MDawgI guess we would need two others to watch us. I'll pay for their meals with my comps.
It's one thing going back and forth with Mdawg, it's all fun and games, no harm is meant.Quote: Marcusclark66Redacted over at the Wynn will be interested as well as Redacted over at the Palms and Redacted at Treasure Island and might as well call Redacted or Redacted at the Cosmopolitan and let them have the knowledge about the marker and credit thing with the comps.
There are well-known scams going around, not terribly difficult to figure out, but I'm sure they'll be interested in it.
Remember other people including surveillance at most properties do read these forums.
Have fun and a good day.
However, this is kind of stuff is out of line in my opinion.
Quote: WizardNames redacted in quoted post to protect their privacy
Since then, PokerGrinder has tendered an apology for the part of it that violated privacy, but not the rest of it. That said, I am un-redacting most of the post, which I am copying and pasting below.
Quote: PokerGrinderThe poster just said exactly what 90% of this forum thinks of “the great mdawg”. Mdawg is nauseating at best and for the love of G-d could you just say “I” instead of referring to yourself as the Mdawg? For f*cks sake you have zero value when it comes to the real world so stop acting like you’re the G-d damn messiah. You have an ego the size of Trump and you talk out of your ass like him too! Your ego by the way is totally unfounded. You claim to beat a negative expectation game, great you’ve ran good or you’re lying, story over. You’re rich so you think you’re better than everyone else? Great except when we are all 6 feet under your wealth will mean sh*t. This part redacted.
I know people with $10 to their name that are worth 1000x you because they are good people who actually give a crap about other people and treat others with respect. You’ve come here from day 1 looking for a fight.
Mdawg go ahead and call for my suspension cause I honestly couldn’t give a crap! I really hope your internet persona isn’t who you are in real life because your internet persona is that of a arrogant disgusting human being.
Happy quarantine everyone!
All things considered, I am issuing a two-week suspension to PG. This is entirely on me. Happy quarantine, PG. Hope there are no hard feelings.
Certainly if anyone’s integrity is impugned that person is going to defend the truth to the nth degree, which is why I fight back when my veracity is questioned, but perhaps all of us should step back a little and accept that nothing anyone says (versus “sticks and stones”) should affect any of us enough to get so bent out of shape. I mean come on, when anyone posts something like this does it make the target look bad, or the person hurling the insult?
Why get so incensed over MDawg?
High level action at a gaming table – worth taking seriously! Anything that doesn’t affect you directly – not worth raising your blood pressure over!
Just out of curiosity, was there any actual proof that it wasn't you that actually posted as that sock puppet yourself? I know they let you off because they couldn't prove it 100%.Quote: MDawgGoing back to when MDawg started posted at this forum, but especially during the course of this particular Adventures thread there have been some rather odd attempts to derail my story – a sock puppet coming in pretending to be me, trying to get me suspended (which actually worked – for a few days), other obvious socks coming in and posting snubs that whoever posted was obviously afraid to post under his real forum username, and then of course this most recent incident.
Certainly if anyone’s integrity is impugned that person is going to defend the truth to the nth degree, which is why I fight back when my veracity is questioned, but perhaps all of us should step back a little and accept that nothing anyone says (versus “sticks and stones”) should affect any of us enough to get so bent out of shape. I mean come on, when anyone posts something like this does it make the target look bad, or the person hurling the insult?
Why get so incensed over MDawg?
High level action at a gaming table – worth taking seriously! Anything that doesn’t affect you directly – not worth raising your blood pressure over!
Didn't you accuse me and or MaxPen of going to The Cosmopolitan just to set you up? That was such an absurd insane claim. That would be pretty funny if somebody actually did that. I wish I would have thought of that, I would have admitted it and laughed my ass off. You must really have a high opinion of yourself if you think we care enough to do something like that just to get you nuked.
I think that's was around the same time that you or someone claimed I lived in North Las Vegas at a certain location, blah blah blah? They didn't even have the correct a zip code.
This is entertainment. If at any time it's no longer entertaining or something gets too serious, it's time to bail out. It really sucks that PG got himself suspended over this nonsense.
He attempted to dox you and divulge what he thought was a current address for you and started to give personal information about yourself that was overlooked.
Talk about privacy concrrns.
Oh yes I am sorry and I apologize for posting the names of those surveillance and investigation casino personnel, that are close professional acquaintances of mine. I should not have done that and I appreciate the wizard to delete those names. I was not familiar with the rules.
Keep the facts the facts. Thank you.
Quote: MDawgPlus you're not local and can't watch, so you're of no use to anyone here.
Im not local but if I truly believed this challenge were to happen I’d fly out to see it!
Let me see if I can summarize what the two combatants would be betting on?
Axel and MDawg will agree on a casino that this contest will take place at
Axel and MDawg will agree on a day or dates this challenge will take place on
Axel and MDawg will agree on a wager amount that will be held in escrow by (me, Wizard, lawyer, BBB) whoever Axel and MDawg agree on as an acceptable escrow holder. Given the $50k bankroll requirement, how about $25k bet between Axel and MDawg?
Axel and MDawg will have $50k that is their bankroll to start
Whoever is up more (or down less!) at the end of the time limit is the winner.
Axel and MDawg need to agree on what games are permitted. Is Axel allowed to bet on machines?
Axel and MDawg need to agree on how win/loss is verified. I think this would be the hardest part.
And lastly, are Axel and MDawg gambling separately, without information on how the other is doing? This is perhaps the most important detail. For example, if Axel is aware MDawg is up $10k with one minute to go, and Axel is presently down $5k, Axel would bet $16k on banker on the last hand played.
Anyway, during this coronavirus shutdown, I have a lot of time on my hands.
For those new or who don’t remember, I have arranged bets like this before on WoV. See Hot Blonde Challenge Also a DI challenge. The HBC resulted in over $6k changing hands.
From the aspects of the challenge you will get the same results by just flipping a quarter for four hours of time and making wagers
Axel your mind must be racing to have brought up something from over a month ago that was already settled. Some sock puppet, obviously hiding his real forum screenname, came in here and posted something or other to try to get me suspended. I didn’t see most of the posts as they were made while we were driving back to California from Vegas, and deleted before we arrived, but the one post that remained was a deliberate attempt to get me suspended. Why would I make a post to get myself suspended, especially when I was due back at WOV within a week? I mean, as one of AP detractors at another forum keeps saying, “you can’t make this stuff up,” how illogical some thinking processes are, to think otherwise – to think that I would post to get myself suspended (we leave such illogical suicidal actions to people like PokerGrinder). And this illogical thinking process goes too for some of the bizarre theories that have been concocted to attempt feebly to explain away MDawg’s posted proof of winning. “You will have to do better than that!” to disprove MDawg.
This “Marcus” character. These people to whom he alludes have a poor choice of friends if they choose to hang with an apparent sock puppet hiding whatever his true forum screen name is, who can’t grasp the concept of legitimate credit line play any better than our resident mixed metaphor and hackneyed cliché writer. If these two want to chase their tails all day long with bizarre theories that don’t fit the facts that doesn’t mean any who know their business would follow them. “You will have to do better than that!”
Which brings me to DarkOz, who has proven himself now again to not be a person of his word. So the person he claims as “friend” - PokerGrinder - falls on his sword and gets himself suspended and DarkO posts that he feels ”responsible” and is willing to do the time for him? Well then, WHY DIDN’T YOU
and what are you doing out of WOV jail?
After the Emperor Caligula nearly died while undergoing his supposed metaa-mor-phosis to transform to a god, he becomes aware that one of the Roman senators had prayed for his recovery, offering his own life to the gods in exchange for the emperor’s. Caligula tells him, matter of factly, that “we oughtn’t both be here” and that the gods (of which he now considers himself one) won’t wait too long for the senator to fulfill his vow. The senator waits a lonng time, hoping that Caligula will forget, but eventually takes his own life. So, Dark, when are you going to fulfill Your vow? Or was it just, like most of what you write here, just words that no one seems to believe, not even yourself?
Soopoo, as far as what the wager is, I posted it months ago, here
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/trip-reports/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/80/#post753072
and it has never changed, other than, the one concession I made for Axel after Michael99000 whiffed, is that I agree to play baccarat only. The only monies being risked are our respective bankrolls. If he is able to get some of you to bet on the outcome that is his affair, but unless he’s willing to risk his money with the only reward being what he claims he always wins whenever he plays, the same way I claim that I always win, then he’s not up to snuff to compete against MDawg. As I’ve said clearly more than once, I’m not giving him a penny (as I wrote months ago, "there is no side bet") all he’ll get out of this is ALLL that MONEY he CLAIMS he wins EVERY time he walks into a casino.
If you whisper something in someone’s ear and say, PASS IT ON, by the time it’s arrived at the fourth or fifth (let alone the tenth or twentieth) person the story is already something entirely different. Lest that happen here, I post the original wager, never modified. If Axel wants to create his own terms and conditions to get out of showing up, that’s on him. My experience has proven that it’s worth my time and money to show up at a casino and play. Has his experience demonstrated that it is worth his? if not, then he should leave the winning, to MDawg alone.
Quote: MDawgLooks like a couple of guys woke up at 4am like prizefighters at the bell to post something about MDawg! I was actually up at the same time but to scan the pre-market for any possible trades, not to post at WOV about someone other than myself.
Axel your mind must be racing to have brought up something from over a month ago that was already settled. Some sock puppet, obviously hiding his real forum screenname, came in here and posted something or other to try to get me suspended. I didn’t see most of the posts as they were made while we were driving back to California from Vegas, and deleted before we arrived, but the one post that remained was a deliberate attempt to get me suspended. Why would I make a post to get myself suspended, especially when I was due back at WOV within a week? I mean, as one of AP detractors at another forum keeps saying, “you can’t make this stuff up,” how illogical some thinking processes are, to think otherwise – to think that I would post to get myself suspended (we leave such illogical suicidal actions to people like PokerGrinder). And this illogical thinking process goes too for some of the bizarre theories that have been concocted to attempt feebly to explain away MDawg’s posted proof of winning. “You will have to do better than that!” to disprove MDawg.
This “Marcus” character. These people to whom he alludes have a poor choice of friends if they choose to hang with an apparent sock puppet hiding whatever his true forum screen name is, who can’t grasp the concept of legitimate credit line play any better than our resident mixed metaphor and hackneyed cliché writer. If these two want to chase their tails all day long with bizarre theories that don’t fit the facts that doesn’t mean any who knows their business would follow them. “You will have to do better than that!”
Which brings me to DarkOz, who has proven himself now again to not be a person of his word. So the person he claims as “friend” - PokerGrinder - falls on his sword and gets himself suspended and DarkO posts that he feels ”responsible” and is willing to do the time for him? Well then, WHY DIDN’T YOU
and what are you doing out of WOV jail?
After the Emperor Caligula nearly died while undergoing his supposed metaa-mor-phosis to transform to a god, he becomes aware that one of the Roman senators had prayed for his recovery, offering his own life to the gods in exchange for the emperor’s. Caligula tells him, matter of factly, that “we oughtn’t both be here” and that the gods (of which he now considers himself one) won’t wait too long for the senator to fulfill his vow. The senator waits a lonng time, hoping that Caligula will forget, but eventually takes his own life. So, Dark, when are you going to fulfill Your vow? Or was it just, like most of what you write here, just words that no one seems to believe, not even yourself?
Soopoo, as far as what the wager is, I posted it months ago, here
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/trip-reports/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/80/#post753072
and it has never changed, other than, the one concession I made for Axel after Michael99000 whiffed, is that I agree to play baccarat only. The only monies being risked are our respective bankrolls. If he is able to get some of you to bet on the outcome that is his affair, but unless he’s willing to risk his money with the only reward being what he claims he always wins whenever he plays, the same way I claim that I always win, then he’s not up to snuff to compete against MDawg. As I’ve said clearly more than once, I’m not giving him a penny (as I wrote months ago, "there is no side bet") all he’ll get out of this is ALLL that MONEY he CLAIMS he wins EVERY time he walks into a casino.
If you whisper something in someone’s ear and say, PASS IT ON, by the time it’s arrived at the fourth or fifth (let alone the tenth or twentieth) person the story is already something entirely different. Lest that happen here, I post the original wager, never modified. If Axel wants to create his own terms and conditions to get out of showing up, that’s on him. My experience has proven that it’s worth my time and money to show up at a casino and play. Has his experience demonstrated that it is worth his? if not, then he should leave the winning, to MDawg alone.
Your posts are starting to be longer than "War an Peace"
It wasn't my decision to ban myself. I offered it. The Mods declined. I don't have access to turning myself red. And I never said anything about me staying away if the suspension wasn't given to me. Just that I would take the suspension in PG place (and for 3 days. He ended up getting two weeks)
Nice but sad try.
Also, I was not up at 4am posting here like you wish to prove something. I am am on EST so it was seven am, my normal time to awake
The sad thing is you keep impugning the legitimacy of AP's like Axel and myself who have already proven our worth. Axel for instance is already known to most members here as an AP winner and he has worked with many here so your claims are making people laugh at you.
Right now, you are like saying you play golf better than Tiger Woods, want him to play mini-golf against you and if he beats you, then you pay him nothing and he should be fine with that because he plays golf a lot anyway. And when Tiger refuses such a waste of time, you claim victory
No one is buying that. I doubt even you are.
MDawg's original thought: "Or was it just, like most of what you write here, just words that no one seems to believe, not even yourself?"
You copy. 😁
DarkOz's copy: "No one is buying that. I doubt even you are."
"You will have to do better than that!" to sell any copies 🤡of your books or screenplay.
And there were two people up at 4am. As in "couple of guys." Couple means two - no matter how you butcher it with a mixed metaphor or cliche, it still means - just - two. You weren't one of them. Don't make yourself so important, you were just a passing reference in my "War and Peace" 😜 level post not a main character. If you want to make good on your Vow, I am sure you know how to fall on your sword as well as your friend did. Or, just keep talk talk talking until you're able to go back to making minimum wage pushing buttons while hiding from casino security. I made the calculation above and once you figure TIME researching, TIME traveling, BUS TICKETS, and having to stay, eat, and pay legal expenses when you get busted, all on your own nickel, I doubt you are even pulling minimum wage. Meantime I'll be doing everything above board, comfortably ensconced in our comp'ed suite, FAR removed from anything like your accusatory post about some kind of "marker fraud." You're the one who gets arrested for what he does in casinos, not me!
Quote: MDawgWhat I will give to you, is that you are a decent COPYwriter. I come up with an original thought.
MDawg's original thought: "Or was it just, like most of what you write here, just words that no one seems to believe, not even yourself?"
You copy. 😁
DarkOz's copy: "No one is buying that. I doubt even you are."
"You will have to do better than that!" to sell any copies 🤡of your books or screenplay.
And there were two people up at 4am. As in "couple of guys." Couple means two - no matter how you butcher it with a mixed metaphor or cliche, it still means - just - two. You weren't one of them. Don't make yourself so important, you were just a passing reference in my "War and Peace" 😜 level post not a main character. If you want to make good on your Vow, follow suit with a PokerGrinder-esque post now. Or, just keep talk talk talking until you're able to go back to making minimum wage pushing buttons while hiding from casino security. I made the calculation above and once you figure TIME researching, TIME traveling, BUS TICKETS, and having to stay, eat, and pay legal expenses when you get busted, all on your own nickel, I doubt you are even pulling minimum wage. Meantime I'll be doing everything above board, comfortably ensconced in our comp'ed suite, FAR removed from anything like your accusatory post about some kind of "marker fraud." You're the one who gets arrested for what he does in casinos, not me!
You need to walk back an accusation that I have ever been arrested PERIOD!
NOT ONCE EVER!
I am an AP who never breaks the law (in fact it's my true power. I take tens of thousands of dollars a week from the casino and they can't even arrest me for it)
You wish you could do that but your AP ability is negative expectation
