Quote: redietz
I would argue that from a legal perspective, his cumulative behaviors over the previous two years are a recipe for being doxed and identified.
My feedback is that this use of the word “legal” doesn’t make any sense.
Quote: redietz"I am shocked, shocked, that anyone would want to know who I am."
Thanks for requesting feedback.
Members who choose anonymity on these forums do not invite identification.
In the spirit of these forums there is, of course, a presumption of anonymity.
Examine the motives of fellow forum members who seek to identify their brethren
in violation of their membership agreement, with full knowledge that their doxing
endeavors are certainly in bad form, and possibly illegal.
Why would you (they) do that?
Quote: coachbellyWhy would you (they) do that?
Curiosity?
Quote: MrVCuriosity?
I'm not sure that you understand what doxing means...
verb INFORMAL
gerund or present participle: doxing
search for and publish private or identifying information about
(a particular individual) on the internet, typically with malicious intent.
Curiosity wouldn't justify doxing...what's the real motive?
Quote: coachbellyIt's not that nobody believes you...it's that nobody cares.
Wise up.
Quote: coachbellyExamine the motives of fellow forum members who seek to identify their brethren
in violation of their membership agreement
This is NOT doxing.
There is no prohibition or rule against someone doing whatever they want in order to unmask a WoV poster in order to determine their actual identity.
The rule only prohibits DISCLOSING the information on this board.
So you can kiss, but don't tell.
Quote: SOOPOOI am assuming that is a tongue in cheek comment. I will respect his and anyone’s privacy. You can watch me crush a Tiles game for $100…. If I get lucky….
Of course it is tongue in cheek. I am very lazy and I limit my stalking to computer based searches.
Quote: MrVThis is NOT doxing.
Yes it is...I replied to this....
Quote: redietza recipe for being doxed and identified.
You seem to have missed the point.
Not Doxing... Fair enough. Nor is it respecting privaxy. And that's the heading of rule 4Quote: MrVThis is NOT doxing.
There is no prohibition or rule against someone doing whatever they want in order to unmask a WoV poster in order to determine their actual identity.
The rule only prohibits DISCLOSING the information on this board.
So you can kiss, but don't tell.
4 Respect privacy
You could skulk around vegas and locate MDawg. You could tap him on the shoulder and introduce yourself. You could follow him to the cage and onwards up to his suite. That would not be doxxing. It would not be respecting privacy. If it were decided that you had used this forum to facilitate your mischief, that would most likely have been a rule 4 infringement..... But then if all your info came from a forum at true passage, that would have been incidental to this forum and outside of it's moderators jurisdiction :o)
WoW! That's all I have to say about that mess.
Quote: OnceDearSome, well ME: I regard most of your posts as trolling and insulting.
I'm satisfied to let you post your absurd observations on we naysayers in this thread, where facts and immutable truths are not to be expected.
You insult anyone who respects centuries of greater mathematicians than would ever visit here.
You insult truth and reality. Fortunately they are not members here, but I see your veiled insults to subtly un-named members.
You insult some highly successful winners, some highly intelligent and qualified members when they try to help you.
You try to 'report' others for trolling, presumably with the intent of getting someone, anyone, suspended. To me, that is a definition of trolling.
I admit, and apologise, for over-stepping my mark. The mark being that I previously stated I would restrict my posts to side comments. I previously gathered WOV is not happy with my comments, and I basically forgot not to be the central focus of threads.
That being said, I am only posting about facts and immutable truths! So who's insulting who?
I accept all help. Does that mean I should accept the views of everyone helping me? According to your logic OD, are you and many others here insulting me and my help?
Quote: mwalz9Wellbush...
I only half read your post, but if you are asking how an -EV game and progressive strategies can co-exist, and want a mathematical reason why...
The only way a progressive strategy would work, is if a player had an infinite bankroll, with infinite time to play an infinite amount of rolls.
Infinite is impossible.
Again, I want to thankyou for your reply, mw9. As I am restricted to side comments on the WOV site, I can only say that I think there are probably numerous ways a gambler does not need to entertain the infinity scenario. If you're wanting more details, you're gonna have to PM me.
Quote: OnceDearNot Doxing... Fair enough. Nor is it respecting privaxy. And that's the heading of rule 4
4 Respect privacy
You could skulk around vegas and locate MDawg. You could tap him on the shoulder and introduce yourself. You could follow him to the cage and onwards up to his suite. That would not be doxxing. It would not be respecting privacy. If it were decided that you had used this forum to facilitate your mischief, that would most likely have been a rule 4 infringement..... But then if all your info came from a forum at true passage, that would have been incidental to this forum and outside of it's moderators jurisdiction :o)
LOL. Aye, and there's the rub.
If you're going to inject the minutia of "The Rules" into the equation, may I point out that someone posting as the MDawg poster has done, identifying suites and precise play history and photos of his accessories along with dates is, drum roll please,
NOT RESPECTING HIS OWN PRIVACY.
I mean, that's pretty obvious. If someone goes out of his way to throw breadcrumbs in every direction, is it a legitimate use of "The Rules" to penalize other posters who are not respecting the MDawg poster's privacy when he himself is not respecting it?
That's the rub. There's no rules or logic or law of nature that dictates that a person can't self-sabotage his own privacy, which is exactly what the MDawg poster has done over and over again. So while the MDawg poster continually lays out bread crumbs, anyone who starts nibbling at them is hamstrung or penalized by "The Rules" while the MDawg poster keeps tossing out the breadcrumbs.
If the rule is that privacy should be respected, then a moderator or site owner should not take the simple parochial view that a poster can't sabotage his own privacy. That's what the MDawg poster has repeatedly done.
You can try the following thought experiment. If somebody had been hanging out with MDawg, and had posted everything MDawg has posted without MDawg's permission, would that person be considered to have breached MDawg's privacy? What about if it was his wife? What about if it was a PI following him?
"The Rules" in this case are, as usual, subjective, imprecise, and almost worthless as they would not be applied, and have not been applied, in any consistent fashion.
The question is... Who would care to?
LoL
see the humour in it too.Quote: redietzLOL. Aye, and there's the rub.
ayyyyy another excuse for suspending him $:o)Quote:
If you're going to inject the minutia of "The Rules" into the equation, may I point out that someone posting as the MDawg poster has done, identifying suites and precise play history and photos of his accessories along with dates is, drum roll please,
NOT RESPECTING HIS OWN PRIVACY.
Well, some forums have no rules. Others have more moderators.Quote:"The Rules" in this case are, as usual, subjective, imprecise, and almost worthless as they would not be applied, and have not been applied, in any consistent fashion.
So, yes they are subjective. I/we try to be predictable and consistent. Even open to constructive criticism. Moderate a forum before judging us too harshly.
Quote: OnceDearWell, some forums have no rules. Others have more moderators.
So, yes they are subjective.
Do you mean that the rules are subjective, or the moderators are subjective?
What's imprecise about Rule 4?
"Do not post any personal information about someone else that is intended to be private"
ToucheQuote: coachbellyDo you mean that the rules are subjective, or the moderators are subjective?
Quote:
What's imprecise about Rule 4?
"Do not post any personal information about someone else that is intended to be private"
Not the bit you bolded.
I did toy with suspending you for a day for trolling me $:o)
Maybe next time.
I am asking a question of you. Would you consider bringing MDawg back a little bit early and let's get this thread back on track and get some discussions and reports going?
Thanks for your Consideration!
Marcus Clark
Real Person; AKA MarcusClark66
Professional Casino Security Expert
Certified Company Firearms Instructor
Tic-Tac-Toe Expert & Mastering Chess
Honorary & Official #1 Fan of the MDawg Adventures Club
Quote: Marcusclark66To OnceDear,
I am asking a question of you. Would you consider bringing MDawg back a little bit early and let's get this thread back on track and get some discussions and reports going?
Thanks for your Consideration!
Sure.
Considered.
Declined.
Quote: OnceDearSure.
Considered.
Declined.
To Oncedear,
Can you (totally by accident of course) forget to restore MDawg priveleges an extra few days here so an extra few days of sanity is afforded?
(I know I have served extra time a few instances)
Wicked, WICKED DarkOz! $:o)Quote: darkozTo Oncedear,
Can you (totally by accident of course) forget to restore MDawg priveleges an extra few days here so an extra few days of sanity is afforded?
(I know I have served extra time a few instances)
I'm (not) wracked with guilt for every time I've failed to unsuspend members on time. But I do try to do the right thing.
In my defence, they were usually members suspended by wizard another moderator. I didn't suspend MDawg on this occasion, So I guess I'll have to remind myself of when he's due out.
Since his adoring fans and disciples seem so fretful, I'll point out that he is apparently happy and well and over $100,000 to the good SINCE his suspension here.... That's from his baccarat session reports over on another forum. Bless his cotton socks, he still just cannot lose. I don't recall seeing him reporting on how many $millions he lost on Bitcoin over that time though... But that's a different budget and only transient, of course.
Go seek out his own little corner of the internet ( clues were a few posts back ). I'm sure we can afford to send him some traffic.
Give him my regards.
Quote: OnceDearSure.
Considered.
Declined.
Thank you for your time! :)
Marcus Clark
Real Person; AKA MarcusClark66
Professional Casino Security Expert
Certified Company Firearms Instructor
Tic-Tac-Toe Expert & Mastering Chess
Honorary & Official #1 Fan of the MDawg Adventures Club
Quote: darkozTo Oncedear,
Can you (totally by accident of course) forget to restore MDawg priveleges an extra few days here so an extra few days of sanity is afforded?
(I know I have served extra time a few instances)
To Oncedear,
Remember when you told me you were sorry my suspension went a few extra days and you felt bad about it and it wasn't intentional?
Could you make it up to me by showing me that it wasn't just me that it happened to and that it does indeed happen to others.
That would help me sleep a little better. This gambling for fun thing and losing on average about the house edge over my lifetime has me facing high anxiety knowing that I must be doing it wrong. There has to be a betting system or something I could utilize to beat the math!
Things just aren't going my way! Please help a brother out!
mwalz9
"Believer in Math"
"Believer in House Edge"
"Non Believer in Betting Systems"
"Founding Member of Nothing"
You're a mischievous lot $:o)Quote: mwalz9To Oncedear,
Remember when you told me you were sorry my suspension went a few extra days and you felt bad about it and it wasn't intentional?
Could you make it up to me by showing me that it wasn't just me that it happened to and that it does indeed happy to others.
That would help me sleep a little better. This gambling for fun thing and losing on average about the house edge over my lifetime has me facing high anxiety knowing that I must be doing it wrong. There has to be a betting system or something I could utilize to beat the math!
Things just aren't going my way! Please help a brother out!
mwalz9
"Believer in Math"
"Believer in House Edge"
"Non Believer in Betting Systems"
"Founding Member of Nothing"
Maybe I could add up all the overstays that I owe to members and gift them to MDawg.
Only kidding.
You guys do realise that we are bumping his thread and perpetuating his legend.
Quote: OnceDearYou guys do realise that we are bumping his thread and perpetuating his legend.
If we don't, a "real person" will.
;o)
Quote: OnceDearYou're a mischievous lot $:o)
Maybe I could add up all the overstays that I owe to members and gift them to MDawg.
Only kidding.
You guys do realise that we are bumping his thread and perpetuating his legend.
If mocking and derision add to his legend, I'd suggest his legend was pretty weak, to begin with.
It's twenty years since William Hung captured America's imagination. Is it hard to fantom that the equally talented and good-looking MDawg has bottled that lightning?
The WOV, like America itself, needs a hero.
Would Mandela be the legend he became without putting in his time on Robbens Island? MLK got inspiration from his time in a Birmingham jail. Who can say what heights mdawg will soar to after his return from exile?
Hero? anti-Hero? The jury is out.Quote: billryanIf mocking and derision add to his legend, I'd suggest his legend was pretty weak, to begin with.
It's twenty years since William Hung captured America's imagination. Is it hard to fantom that the equally talented and good-looking MDawg has bottled that lightning?
The WOV, like America itself, needs a hero.
Would Mandela be the legend he became without putting in his time on Robbens Island? MLK got inspiration from his time in a Birmingham jail. Who can say what heights mdawg will soar to after his return from exile?
Anyhow, He's not getting the full benefit of his imprisonment, since he has a tunnel: A True Passage to some high limit tables dedicated to enriching him. Odd how few of his fan base bother to post there. No No#1 one fan over there? Not even a fan club.... And no hecklers either. It's almost as though nobody cares.
Off to check alexa rankings now $:o)
Quote: OnceDearHero? anti-Hero? The jury is out.
Anyhow, He's not getting the full benefit of his imprisonment, since he has a tunnel: A True Passage to some high limit tables dedicated to enriching him. Odd how few of his fan base bother to post there. No No#1 one fan over there? Not even a fan club.... And no hecklers either. It's almost as though nobody cares.
Off to check alexa rankings now $:o)
This is the whole point and nothing but the point.
A supposed number one member of a founding fan club of MDawg has no compulsion to post on MDawg's advertised every post forum True Passage.
But supposed number one member of a founding fan club asks for his early release because they miss his adventures so much.
Prosecution rests!
Quote: darkozThis is the whole point and nothing but the point.
A supposed number one member of a founding fan club of MDawg has no compulsion to post on MDawg's advertised every post forum True Passage.
But supposed number one member of a founding fan club asks for his early release because they miss his adventures so much.
Prosecution rests!
1) May i respectfully ask why are you trolling me?
2) Also why are you bringing up business from another forum?
Marcus Clark
Real Person; AKA MarcusClark66
Professional Casino Security Expert
Certified Company Firearms Instructor
Tic-Tac-Toe Expert & Mastering Chess
Honorary & Official #1 Fan of the MDawg Adventures Club
Quote: Marcusclark661) May i respectfully ask why are you trolling me?
2) Also why are you bringing up business from another forum?
Marcus Clark
Real Person; AKA MarcusClark66
Professional Casino Security Expert
Certified Company Firearms Instructor
Tic-Tac-Toe Expert & Mastering Chess
Honorary & Official #1 Fan of the MDawg Adventures Club
I'm not trolling you. I am pointing out discrepancies that place in question your motives.
A true fan would follow his hero everywhere. True Passage is notable as being a forum of one. You could make it a forum of two but prefer to bump threads with requests for your supposed hero to be released early.
Something smells funky in Denmark AND Ireland!
And you replying that I am trolling you tells me even you can't answer the questions I am posing as to your motivation
Yes. I reckon that's it. Darkoz and others have done you the favour of helping you keep in touch with your hero.Quote: sabreBecause it doesn't seem you're aware that you can read about your hero's exploits elsewhere.
We are not bringing drama here from another forum. We are just pointing out that other forums are available, with similar content.
As to trolling MC..... Expressing an interest in the content in his sig line is surely on-topic.
MC has asked me questions, so I'll ask, out of curiosity...
MarcusClark66, Why do you SEEM to be so dedicated to just this one forum, when it's common knowledge that your hero is actively posting on at least two other forums. Is it maybe that you enjoy something specific about this forum. Maybe you'll tell us what it is that you like here and we'll see if we can deliver more of it for the enjoyment of all of us.
All of the active attorneys I know go to the office and to court in order to practice law, but not this guy; who it seems never works and rarely misses a day of gambling.
Sort of makes me wonder if what we have here is "life imitating art:" could this be "Owning Mahoney" redux?
Quote: OnceDearYes. I reckon that's it. Darkoz and others have done you the favour of helping you keep in touch with your hero.
We are not bringing drama here from another forum. We are just pointing out that other forums are available, with similar content.
As to trolling MC..... Expressing an interest in the content in his sig line is surely on-topic.
MC has asked me questions, so I'll ask, out of curiosity...
MarcusClark66, Why do you SEEM to be so dedicated to just this one forum, when it's common knowledge that your hero is actively posting on at least two other forums. Is it maybe that you enjoy something specific about this forum. Maybe you'll tell us what it is that you like here and we'll see if we can deliver more of it for the enjoyment of all of us.
So now suddenly there is going to be crickets In response to this post from Marcus.
Hmmmm!
Quote: darkozSo now suddenly there is going to be crickets In response to this post from Marcus. Hmmmm!
It's psychological warfare.
Given that the posts of Mr. Clark have a gravitas equivalent to cotton candy, ignoring him is appropriate and may actually encourage him to go roll in the mud with the dawg at his own private pig pen.
You know, the one with forthright walkways.
Quote: OnceDearYes. I reckon that's it. Darkoz and others have done you the favour of helping you keep in touch with your hero.
~~[I don't believe that was his purpose.]~~
We are not bringing drama here from another forum. We are just pointing out that other forums are available, with similar content.
~~[Not interested in other forums. Is that a crime? ]~~
MC has asked me questions, so I'll ask, out of curiosity...
MarcusClark66, Why do you SEEM to be so dedicated to just this one forum, when it's common knowledge that your hero is actively posting on at least two other forums. Is it maybe that you enjoy something specific about this forum. Maybe you'll tell us what it is that you like here and we'll see if we can deliver more of it for the enjoyment of all of us.
~~[I enjoy this forum for the little bit I am on it]~~
~~[Don't believe in jumping around from forum to forum and I'm working or with the family more than what I spend time on the forum by far. I picked this one and he's helped me make several thousand dollars and I thoroughly enjoy his openness and the discussions revolving around him to tell you the truth. I have years of experience in the casino industry and I will tell you I'm very acquainted without attitudes and personalities.~~
how do you know all about his travels, OD? i didn't know you (and others) were so infatuated with him!Quote: OnceDearHero? anti-Hero? The jury is out.
Anyhow, He's not getting the full benefit of his imprisonment, since he has a tunnel: A True Passage to some high limit tables dedicated to enriching him. Odd how few of his fan base bother to post there. No No#1 one fan over there? Not even a fan club.... And no hecklers either. It's almost as though nobody cares.
Off to check alexa rankings now $:o)
That's the thing...truth, as well as colourful stories. Maybe many don't realise they love him, even though they say they don't!Quote: Marcusclark66
~~[Don't believe in jumping around from forum to forum and I'm working or with the family more than what I spend time on the forum by far. I picked this one and he's helped me make several thousand dollars and I thoroughly enjoy his openness and the discussions revolving around him to tell you the truth. I have years of experience in the casino industry and I will tell you I'm very acquainted without attitudes and personalities.~~
Quote: Marcusclark66I picked this one and he's helped me make several thousand dollars
No he hasn't.
Quote: WellbushThat's the thing...truth, as well as colourful stories. Maybe many don't realise they love him, even though they say they don't!Quote: Marcusclark66
~~[Don't believe in jumping around from forum to forum and I'm working or with the family more than what I spend time on the forum by far. I picked this one and he's helped me make several thousand dollars and I thoroughly enjoy his openness and the discussions revolving around him to tell you the truth. I have years of experience in the casino industry and I will tell you I'm very acquainted without attitudes and personalities.~~
Perfecto! Absolute truth and admiration of the man!
Fuels huge inner desires.
Marcus Clark
Real Person; AKA MarcusClark66
Professional Casino Security Expert
Certified Company Firearms Instructor
Tic-Tac-Toe Expert & Mastering Chess
Honorary & Official #1 Fan of the MDawg Adventures Club
Quote: JohnzimboI picture Mdawg like Biff in Back to the Future, the "look at me I am cool" guy and he has a couple minions who are hangers-on.
I don't know the exact number and you do not either and actually nobody does because so many are seriously afraid to come forward.
But he has a lot more than a couple or a few minions or hanger-ons as you say. Or this thread would have died a heck of a long time ago! I have communication with dozens and dozens and I'm not going to say how many, if it's 4 dozen or 24 dozen fans of his, but I will tell you there are numerous members of this forum alone that are admirers of his.
And in my opinion there is not a damn thing wrong with being an admirer, the same as there's not a damn thing wrong with not being an admirer of his.
The only thing I do not understand is, if you are not an admirer and you don't side with him why the infatuation and why the energy of the repetitivenes and the attempt to hurt the gentleman?
Off the cuff I would say this movie scene kind of fits here:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=y7eZAFM4FLY
Believing Mr. Wizard himself and his Verification of MDawg
Marcus Clark
Real Person; AKA MarcusClark66
Professional Casino Security Expert
Certified Company Firearms Instructor
Tic-Tac-Toe Expert & Mastering Chess
Honorary & Official #1 Fan of the MDawg Adventures Club
Quote: JohnzimboI picture Mdawg like Biff in Back to the Future, the "look at me I am cool" guy and he has a couple minions who are hangers-on.
A complaint was filed on this one. Personal insult -- three-day suspension.
Quote: WizardA complaint was filed on this one. Personal insult -- three-day suspension.
You certainly are to be admired also Mr. Wizard.
Believing Mr. Wizard himself and his Verification of MDawg
Marcus Clark
Real Person; AKA MarcusClark66
Professional Casino Security Expert
Certified Company Firearms Instructor
Tic-Tac-Toe Expert & Mastering Chess
Honorary & Official #1 Fan of the MDawg Adventures Club
What do we have here, triplets separated at birth?
Interesting that MDawg is currently suspended, so I wonder to myself who complained.Quote: WizardA complaint was filed on this one. Personal insult -- three-day suspension.
I could only guess that it was someone who felt himself/herself to have been characterised as a 'minion' or 'hanger on'
https://www.wordnik.com/words/minion
From The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition.
noun An obsequious follower or dependent; a sycophant.
noun A subordinate official, especially a servile one.
noun One who is highly esteemed or favored; a darling.