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dwm
dwm
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September 22nd, 2015 at 11:41:20 AM permalink
This is how I am now playing my pass-odds betting scheme with 20x odds available:
$5 pass and $10 odds to start initially on all points.
Then increase the odds bet in $10 increments as follows:
If point is 6 or 8, increase the odds bet as any INSIDE number is rolled.
If point is 5 or 9, increase the odds bets as ANY box number is rolled.
If point is 4 or 10, increase the odds bet as any OUTSIDE number is rolled.

Stop at max $100 odds and play with $1000 day bankroll. I am increasing the odds bet based on like or similar numbers rolling. If point is 5 or 9 this is both an inside and an outside number so increasing as any box rolled. The 6 or 8 point is an inside number so increasing it as every inside number is rolled. If point is 4 or 10, this is an outside number so increasing odds as every outside number is rolled.

You may be pleasantly surprised if you concentrate on the odds bet, that's my point!
mustangsally
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September 22nd, 2015 at 12:13:54 PM permalink
Quote: dwm

This is how I am now playing my pass-odds betting scheme with 20x odds available:

no craps betting system can beat the house edge
even with hard-to-find 20X odds

play long enough and any starting bankroll of $1 million or less will be gone
just a fact of life
Quote: dwm

If point is 5 or 9 this is both an inside and an outside number so increasing as any box rolled.

i disagree and so due the dice

only 6 and 8 are inside numbers where it is nice inside

4,5,9 and 10 are outside numbers - for sure they are outside both 6 & 8

the 5 & 9 can not be both
that is silly
(no matter who says they are, they are wrong, imo)

Quote: dwm

The 6 or 8 point is an inside number

i already agreed on that
the only numbers that are inside R the 6 and 8
Quote: dwm

You may be pleasantly surprised if you concentrate on the odds bet, that's my point!

what happens if i am NOT pleasantly surprised...

I simulated 100,000 players doing just that and every one busted out their $1000 bankroll, as expected...
la la la (some, not most, took longer to bust-out than others, the un-lucky ones)

not much fun there (Oh, yes, playing craps is so much fun)
where is the fun in that?
la la tea dot

i do not get that
or it
or Taylor

Lay bets rule!
all other bets are just other bets
Sally

thank you for sharing
no matter what I or other haters due say and think and all-that-stuff
hate, love, hate, love
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dwm
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September 22nd, 2015 at 12:45:21 PM permalink
Sally: The inside numbers are 5,6,8,9. The outside numbers are 4,5,9,10. The 5 and 9 appear in both, so not so silly as you say.
My pass-odds scheme is not a winning system, it is just a way of playing concentrating on the odds bet with its 0 house edge.
DeMango
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September 22nd, 2015 at 6:57:47 PM permalink
When is anybody gonna give some love to a man posting his what, 314th different system? I'll be in Biloxi, David, after Columbus day. Hope to meet you at a table, if we haven't met already!
When a rock is thrown into a pack of dogs, the one that yells the loudest is the one who got hit.
NokTang
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September 22nd, 2015 at 7:59:18 PM permalink
Quote: dwm


My pass-odds scheme is not a winning system, it is just a way of playing concentrating on the odds bet with its 0 house edge.



What's the point if it's not a winning system? I think losing system's are a dime a dozen or cheaper?
MrV
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September 22nd, 2015 at 8:06:48 PM permalink
Please, NokTang, that comment seems a bit harsh.

All craps players know that there is no system which will overcome the house edge.

That doesn't mean you shouldn't play craps for fun and recreation, and if you want to play you have to choose a method of play.

The OP is merely suggesting one method of playing the game.
"What, me worry?"
mustangsally
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September 22nd, 2015 at 9:56:17 PM permalink
Quote: dwm

My pass-odds scheme is not a winning system,

but it could be with a proper loss-rebate to offer the casino
of course you need a much higher bankroll to even B considered for that.
Quote: dwm

... it is just a way of playing concentrating on the odds bet with its 0 house edge.

way way too much concentrating i due say
and there is no correlation in
in-out numbers roll - increase-odds-increase-wins-thinking-stuff-s
it is a feel good system at best, imo

so that has some happy value...

just always taking the $100 odds your chance to double up to at least $2000 in a session = 48%
and easily happens too
making good money faster than the average bear...

your think-about-the-odds-every-roll-system
is at best a 44.5% winner
to at least $2000 and taking 5X as more rolls on average and not getting any more comps from it

why so many betting systems from you
without any YouTube videos to match? ($$$ in videos)
just thinking

Sally
thank you for sharing !

a system
that performs worse than just always taking 20X odds
Hmmm
what a rush!
20X odds that is

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odiousgambit
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September 23rd, 2015 at 3:23:34 AM permalink
well, dwm, I can dig it that you don't want to go max 20x odds right from the get-go

but that's because you really need a big bankroll to do it- and a great big ability to blow it off if you lose, because that becomes loosing, not just losing*

If your system works for you, it's good with me. You'd have a hard time convincing most of us it has any other value than keeping your action down though methinks.



I've said before we need to acknowledge that gamblers have coined a new word, we see its usage way too much here. Losing is, meh, losing. But loosing is really getting reamed!! I'm going to start using it!
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!” She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
dwm
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September 23rd, 2015 at 10:27:27 AM permalink
Most craps players are stuck on their same ole losing betting schemes and are afraid to change. There is NO winning betting scheme, just the hope that it will work in the present. The beauty of craps is all the different betting schemes available, this one is doing well for me thusfar over many sessions during the last several months.
mustangsally
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September 23rd, 2015 at 10:35:05 AM permalink
Quote: dwm

Most craps players are stuck on their same ole losing betting schemes and are afraid to change. There is NO winning betting scheme, just the hope that it will work in the present.

this is false
there are many winning betting systems in craps
the ones i have used the most and won the most was pass line only and always 345X odds with a loss-rebate

casinos love loss rebates
they offer and accept them all-the-time
it only takes cash
Quote: dwm

The beauty of craps is all the different betting schemes available, this one is doing well for me thusfar over many sessions during the last several months.

that is super and i have shown that by always taking 20X odds and not playing with up on this and that one WILL double a $1000 more often and in less time than the 9.22.2015-dwm-betting-system
here is the wincraps classic code i used
if you want to use it just make it in wincraps
one can not copy/paste this and have it work as in Pro (I do not use Pro)
 When . . .
Initializing Auto-Bet
then . . .
Set Auto-Take Full Odds to False
Bet $ 5 on Pass Line
Go to "end"
While . . .
Next roll is a come-out roll
Pass Line is equal to $ 0
then . . .
Bet $ 5 on Pass Line
Go to "status"
While . . .
A point is established on any number
Last roll was a come-out roll
then . . .
Bet $ 10 on Pass Line Odds
Go to "end"
While . . .
A point is established on the number 4 or 10
Number 4,5,9,or 10 has rolled each time
Pass Line Odds is less than $ 100
then . . .
Add $ 10 to Pass Line Odds
Go to "status"
While . . .
A point is established on the number 5 or 9
Number 4,5,6,8,9,or 10 has rolled each time
Pass Line Odds is less than $ 100
then . . .
Add $ 10 to Pass Line Odds
Go to "status"
While . . .
A point is established on the number 6 or 8
Number 5,6,8,or 9 has rolled each time
Pass Line Odds is less than $ 100
then . . .
Add $ 10 to Pass Line Odds
status
While . . .
Bankroll is equal to $ 0
or while . . .
Bankroll is not less than $ 2000
or while . . .
Pass Line is equal to $ 0
then . . .
Add $ 1 to Chip-Stack # 0
Reset table (preserve Chip-Stacks)
Bet $ 5 on Pass Line
When . . .
Chip-Stack # 0 is equal to $ 5000
then . . .
Stop Auto-Rolling / Hyper-Drive
end


what you are doing at the craps table IS a betting system
and having fun with it... Yahoo!
the word is a system and not a scheme

a Rose is a Rose even if you call it a rock

thank you for sharing!
I go with 20X odds always if it was offered in every casino

easy money and with a loss-rebate
the casino would lose big time to large bankrolled teams
and refuse to let you play by those rules (loss-rebate-rules)
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