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alexnuggets
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January 31st, 2015 at 1:01:46 AM permalink
What are some systems people use to make the most in craps from a $100, $5 or $10 table?

Goal:

Looking to lose all or win a decent amount ($400 plus)

Also looking to play for more than 5 minutes (Have some fun)

Looking for something different than pass line bet odds, press after a win, repeat.

I'm not looking for a guaranteed win or better odds.

Looking for a strategy where I lose all or get lucky with a decent win and play for a little while.

Thanks
RS
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January 31st, 2015 at 1:35:15 AM permalink
$5 table. Bet $22 inside including. If any number hits (5/6/8/9) drop $5 and press 6&8 to 12 each. After that, if either 6 or 8 hit, press them both $6 each ($2 change) OR press 5 and 9 $5 each ($4 change). If 5 or 9 hits (and are $5 each), you can drop $5 to press 6&8...or drop $3 to press 5&9. If they are $10 each, you can press the 6&8 $6 each ($2 change).

Or bet $10 on 5&9. When either hit, drop $1 and power-press to $25. When it hits again, you can either:

-Collect $35
-Press to $35 ($25 change)
-press to $50 ($10 change)
-press all the way to $60

If you're a badass, you press it to $50 with $10 change. Next time it hits, you drop $5 and power press to $125. If that hits, it pays $175. If that's good enough for you, you can take everything down and walk away. Or a total harass would full press to $300, then full press to $720, then the following roll collect $1008 OR press to $1000, drop a $28 toke/hand in for the dealers, and collect $700. Quick road to riches, my friend, if someone can roll enough 5's or 9's before a 7.

But of course, every system or whatever is -EV and you expect to lose in the long run, and you usually lose in the short run. But is definitely very fun if/when you're on a hot roll!
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January 31st, 2015 at 8:06:36 AM permalink
Also see your other thread - e.g. start with $6 one/both 6 and 8 then creating numbers or use $22 across as above. Technically just pushing the 6 and 8 is best as (I'm assume it's the same in the US) they have lower House Edge than the other numbers. Also if you're trying to get to a fixed target it's easier to add up how much you've got on the table and could quit as soon as you've got there. On the one side 6 and 8 might not come up that often on a hot roll, or of course they may just come popping out like peas.

PS If you're going to do $22 or $32 across, you might as well do a pass bet and then you can back the number with true odds.
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February 2nd, 2015 at 1:21:58 AM permalink
Find a table where the 2 in the field is paid triple and the 12 is double and play it.
From what I understand the EV is +/-0
wudged
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February 2nd, 2015 at 5:55:14 AM permalink
Quote: BoulderDamIt

Find a table where the 2 in the field is paid triple and the 12 is double and play it.
From what I understand the EV is +/-0



Both the 2 and 12 have to pay triple for a 0 edge bet.
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February 2nd, 2015 at 3:32:36 PM permalink
Quote: wudged

Both the 2 and 12 have to pay triple for a 0 edge bet.


Gotcha, thanks for the correction. I'm just learning the correct plays. I appreciate anyone who corrects misinformation.
I know there's a few tables in Vegas and on the Strip that have a Field like this. Does anyone know where they are located?
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February 2nd, 2015 at 4:17:47 PM permalink
Quote: BoulderDamIt

Gotcha, thanks for the correction. I'm just learning the correct plays. I appreciate anyone who corrects misinformation.
I know there's a few tables in Vegas and on the Strip that have a Field like this. Does anyone know where they are located?

I believe that is false. I think both pay triple at Santa Ana Star or one of the casinos near Albuquerque, and at a casino wizard visited in either panama, Dominican, Puerto Rico, or Costa Rica(I have no idea where, just remember the detail from one of his reports on gambling in X country)
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February 2nd, 2015 at 4:29:58 PM permalink
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I believe that is false. I think both pay triple at Santa Ana Star or one of the casinos near Albuquerque

How come all the DI's are not over there raking in make it rain money for the strip clubs?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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February 2nd, 2015 at 4:36:26 PM permalink
Probably the most fun I had playing craps was at jokers wild $1 table when they used quarters and I got to bet $5.50 inside and press my bets $1.25/$1.50 per hit.
BoulderDamIt
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February 2nd, 2015 at 4:55:04 PM permalink
Quote: mcallister3200

I believe that is false. I think both pay triple at Santa Ana Star or one of the casinos near Albuquerque, and at a casino wizard visited in either panama, Dominican, Puerto Rico, or Costa Rica(I have no idea where, just remember the detail from one of his reports on gambling in X country)


I've been reading the site since October, so it all runs together a bit. I could have sworn I read a casino review where there was one one the strip. I believe it was a Wizard review. It could have been the Bellagio. Possibly the High Roller room? I know some of those reviews are several years old.
Then again I could be completely wrong.
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February 3rd, 2015 at 10:17:33 AM permalink
Quote: alexnuggets

What are some systems people use to make the most in craps from a $100, $5 or $10 table?

there is only 1 system known to man and woman

pray to your God

(I hear God does not care about playing games for money)
Quote: alexnuggets

Goal:

Looking to lose all or win a decent amount ($400 plus)

really?

turn $100 into +$500
total greed I say
good luck

Quote: alexnuggets

Also looking to play for more than 5 minutes (Have some fun)

best chance to win a lot is to bet it all and most times
5 minutes is about the limit

you can not have both at the same time
the table is never HOT AND COLD

Quote: alexnuggets

Looking for something different than pass line bet odds, press after a win, repeat.

hahahahaha
why?

you want to be a lifetime loser playing craps, in me opinion

Quote: alexnuggets

I'm not looking for a guaranteed win or better odds.

yes you are
this IS a lie (in my opinion) as ALL gamblers are liars but not all liars are gamblers.

Quote: alexnuggets

Looking for a strategy where I lose all or get lucky with a decent win and play for a little while.

Thanks

go with a friend and have them bet the pass line and only single odds
you bet all the rest of the odds
variance and 0% house edge
what else do you want?


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alexnuggets
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February 7th, 2015 at 2:41:38 AM permalink
Thanks, very clear and easy to follow
alexnuggets
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February 7th, 2015 at 2:43:08 AM permalink
Thanks for the suggestions
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February 9th, 2015 at 11:51:21 AM permalink
Inside betting is your best chance of winning. Start with pass-odds, and minimum inside bets. Collect 3 hits, then full press each number as rolled, then same bet for remainder of hand. 10 shooter session bankroll. If get a PSO, then wait for an inside number after the point is established before betting on the next shooter, those point seven outs cluster together.
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February 9th, 2015 at 5:07:54 PM permalink
Quote: dwm

Inside betting is your best chance of winning.

of course that is just your opinion

That system of play you describe doubles bankrolls at a very very low rate - arounds 25% thanks to the 4% edge one fights on the 5 and 9
and the 4-point-Lay bet made (placing the inside #s)

I mean the pass line doubles bankrolls at a 49.3% rate
so that makes one think

I mean guys (not girls) have no clue when to increase, decrease or take down their place bets too, in my opinion
if they did, the casinos would stop offering craps

Quote: dwm

Start with pass-odds, and minimum inside bets.
Collect 3 hits, then full press each number as rolled, then same bet for remainder of hand. 10 shooter session bankroll. If get a PSO, then wait for an inside number after the point is established before betting on the next shooter, those point seven outs cluster together.

it does sound fun to play except for the playing scared part, the PSO and then wait
Ah, wait

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February 9th, 2015 at 5:43:18 PM permalink
Anything you do will make you loose, except one thing, and it's called, hot shooter. The only time you have fun is when you are winning. Avoid chicken feeders, look for people who try to throw dice in curtain way, these type of players is your only chance.
BoulderDamIt
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February 10th, 2015 at 12:40:18 AM permalink
Quote: Dicenor33

Anything you do will make you loose, except one thing, and it's called, hot shooter. The only time you have fun is when you are winning. Avoid chicken feeders, look for people who try to throw dice in curtain way, these type of players is your only chance.



Insert joke here about a "loose hot shooter". :)
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February 12th, 2015 at 6:14:14 AM permalink
Quote: mustangsally


go with a friend and have them bet the pass line and only single odds
you bet all the rest of the odds
variance and 0% house edge
what else do you want?


Sally says



I LOVE that! Nice way to throw your friend under the bus.
Made me laugh this morning.
Thanks
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February 12th, 2015 at 2:43:14 PM permalink
Quote: HornHighYo11

I LOVE that! Nice way to throw your friend under the bus.

yes, it does not always work that way but I have found, with my friends that is, they really only take 2X odds most times and with 345X or 10X odds offered, where I play the most,
I still have room to complete their max odds bet

just the way I like it
and they like it too except
when I lay a number, sometimes the point number
then the questions start to fly

of course I buy-in for more than $100
so this does not at all help out the op

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