Phoenix14
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December 29th, 2014 at 3:10:46 PM permalink
So I've been using a system of betting on player, then banker, then player again etc. back and forth while doubling my bet every time I lose. I've made a couple grand because when it comes to variance, the table would have to hit player, then banker, then player again exactly opposite to me like 10 times for me to bust out.

It's been working out great. Try it out and let me know what you think.
falecf4
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December 29th, 2014 at 3:49:36 PM permalink
Only 10 times? What $ amount are you playing at and with what table limits? In the event of a tie do you stay on the same spot or switch?

10
20
40
80
160
320
640
1280
2560
5120 = $10,230

You have over $10,000 to play your system to "like" a 10th loss? I bet that you haven't even come close to that yet though have you? Sounds as good as any system I've come up with, actually it sounds better. I think this will fair like every other system brought before this forum, unfortunately.
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falecf4
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December 29th, 2014 at 3:53:13 PM permalink
Why don't you try this because it will make you that much more money. After each win you add a unit (up to like 5 units total) and anytime you have to martingale you just start back over at 1.
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strictlyAP
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December 29th, 2014 at 4:52:02 PM permalink
Let the flaming begin- I'm glad you won short term- long term no chance
The bet will not be paid- not now not ever
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January 3rd, 2015 at 8:25:18 AM permalink
*SIGH*
Dieter
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January 3rd, 2015 at 3:48:19 PM permalink
Quote: strictlyAP

I'm glad you won short term- long term no chance



That's inaccurate and you know it.

There is a small chance of the wins continuing, but it becomes increasingly improbable.
May the cards fall in your favor.
EvenBob
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January 3rd, 2015 at 4:15:27 PM permalink
If you have to play systems, switch between
3 or 4 while playing. It usually takes longer
to hit the brick wall that way. One system
in a shoe is always winning at one time. For
instance, the oldest systems are FTL (follow
the last) outcome and OTL (other than last)
outcome. One of these systems wins on every
hand. Add another and interchange the 3.
With a progression you could last a very long
time, especially if you have a win limit.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
Asswhoopermcdaddy
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January 3rd, 2015 at 4:30:34 PM permalink
Martingaling is like playing Russian roulette. At some point, you here the pin striking the bullet. I did a progression in blackjack and felt utterly sick.
OnceDear
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January 3rd, 2015 at 5:13:42 PM permalink
Yup, just like russian roulette. Win often, die once. Are you feeling lucky?
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January 3rd, 2015 at 5:16:44 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Add another and interchange the 3.
With a progression you could last a very long
time, especially if you have a win limit.



Oh c'mon Bob, don't encourage a martingale better.... Oh what the heck, let's encourage all these newbies to fill the casino coffers and to boast to their friends right up to where they take a bullet.
Psalm 25:16 Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted. Proverbs 18:2 A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
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January 3rd, 2015 at 6:03:49 PM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

Oh c'mon Bob, don't encourage a martingale better.....



I said a progression, Marty would not be my
first choice.
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Dicenor33
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January 3rd, 2015 at 6:40:23 PM permalink
Any system is good as long as you know when to quit.
EvenBob
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January 3rd, 2015 at 11:59:59 PM permalink
Quote: Dicenor33

Any system is good as long as you know when to quit.



Not really. There are some that lose
from the gitgo. They hit the wall
immediately. If you have brass balls,
a good system with a good progression
with a good BR, it can make money. Just
not forever. That's the downside.

Forever is what you want.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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January 4th, 2015 at 3:29:49 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

There are some that lose from the gitgo.



Those are the systems where the proper time to quit is before you place a bet.
May the cards fall in your favor.
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January 4th, 2015 at 4:27:40 AM permalink
Quote: Dieter

Those are the systems where the proper time to quit is before you place a bet.

The best system is to pretend you have a winning system.


In order to not have your system debunked you must allude to the facts(never show math). You have to try to convince people that somehow you know something others don't. Claim it's some super secret formula only developed though years of gambling experience, even if you know 99% of the people don't believe you.

You must come up with reasons why you can't revile your system, little sayings as to why you won't revile it help( Don't wize up a chump).

Always claim you dislike casinos or something like that. Perhaps just say you don't want to burn it out. this will help answer questions as to why you're not filthy rich.

Attack other dumb systems. Poo poo legitimate systems as being boring or not worthy. Never engage in conversations about good successful AP's or AP systems.

Privately talk with naive gamblers desperately seeking a system, convince them you have something.

Never admit you're wrong about anything.

Never meet anyone in person.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
odiousgambit
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January 4th, 2015 at 5:01:27 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

The best system is to pretend you have a winning system.



You don't suppose our boy is one of those guys who does that scam [heard of it in horse racing] where a guy makes sure he is observed winning race after race. His partner encourages the mark to talk to the big winner, and the mark gets talked into investing. The losing tickets are hidden or the winning tickets are bogus, a show put on by using another partner.

I could see doing this with Craps, where it often is not clear whether a player is winning or not due to the furious pace some bettors do.

Could it not be done with Roulette?
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January 4th, 2015 at 5:35:30 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

The best system is to pretend you have a winning system.


In order to not have your system debunked you must allude to the facts(never show math). You have to try to convince people that somehow you know something others don't. Claim it's some super secret formula only developed though years of gambling experience, even if you know 99% of the people don't believe you.



I know you hate casinos as much as I do. My friend, let me let you in on an amazing secret.

I have an unbeatable betting system.

In fact, I have never lost, playing this system. I've shared it with a handful of friends and family, and they've never lost, either.

Never. Not once, ever.

This winning system is a variation on the well known martingale system, but with one important difference.

Normally, in martingale, you start by betting 1 unit, and then double your bet every time you lose.

In this unbeatable system, we start with a 0 unit bet. After every round, we double our bet.

We've tried this extensively with slots and baccarat, and are beginning field trials with roulette.

Remember - with this system, you cannot lose - and not losing is the first part of winning. You can play all night, if the dealers aren't taking your chips away.
May the cards fall in your favor.
AxelWolf
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January 4th, 2015 at 7:15:05 AM permalink
Quote: Dieter

I know you hate casinos as much as I do. My friend, let me let you in on an amazing secret.

I have an unbeatable betting system.

In fact, I have never lost, playing this system. I've shared it with a handful of friends and family, and they've never lost, either.

Never. Not once, ever.

This winning system is a variation on the well known martingale system, but with one important difference.

Normally, in martingale, you start by betting 1 unit, and then double your bet every time you lose.

In this unbeatable system, we start with a 0 unit bet. After every round, we double our bet.

We've tried this extensively with slots and baccarat, and are beginning field trials with roulette.

Remember - with this system, you cannot lose - and not losing is the first part of winning. You can play all night, if the dealers aren't taking your chips away.

LOL. I didn't write that I swear.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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January 4th, 2015 at 8:20:03 AM permalink
Quote: Dieter

I know you hate casinos as much as I do. My friend, let me let you in on an amazing secret.

I have an unbeatable betting system.

In fact, I have never lost, playing this system. I've shared it with a handful of friends and family, and they've never lost, either.

Never. Not once, ever.

This winning system is a variation on the well known martingale system, but with one important difference.

Normally, in martingale, you start by betting 1 unit, and then double your bet every time you lose.

In this unbeatable system, we start with a 0 unit bet. After every round, we double our bet.

We've tried this extensively with slots and baccarat, and are beginning field trials with roulette.

Remember - with this system, you cannot lose - and not losing is the first part of winning. You can play all night, if the dealers aren't taking your chips away.


Works about as well as my 100% system.
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