roibread
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March 15th, 2014 at 12:13:42 PM permalink
"you can't lose if you don't play"

Max loss: $237 (approx.)
Suggested starting bankroll: $250
Odds of losing all bets in a row: 1:?


mustangsally
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March 15th, 2014 at 3:57:20 PM permalink
what is the deal with bet#5? Bet 12 but you show 60
it does not match the bets on the layout.

and bet#4 is only 8? a win is only 8
your loss to that point is only 9 losing 3 bets in a row
so I win but I still lose. Huh?

is there a text version of this?
and your odds of losing look way too high.
you show me yours and I show you mine

now dinner and dancing
Sally
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Boz
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March 15th, 2014 at 4:01:25 PM permalink
OK, I will bite...how does this help you beat the House Advantage over time and why are you giving this away if it is such a sure thing. I would hate to see Roulette tables be taken out of casinos because everyone is beating them with your system.
GWAE
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March 15th, 2014 at 4:34:09 PM permalink
Quote: mustangsally

what is the deal with bet#5? Bet 12 but you show 60
it does not match the bets on the layout.

and bet#4 is only 8? a win is only 8
your loss to that point is only 9 losing 3 bets in a row
so I win but I still lose. Huh?

is there a text version of this?
and your odds of losing look way too high.
you show me yours and I show you mine

now dinner and dancing
Sally



Sally your posts are the best. I enjoy reading all of them, Its like you troll them but are serious and correct. The previous comment was not meant to be an insult....
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AcesAndEights
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March 15th, 2014 at 5:13:42 PM permalink
Quote: Boz

OK, I will bite...how does this help you beat the House Advantage over time and why are you giving this away if it is such a sure thing. I would hate to see Roulette tables be taken out of casinos because everyone is beating them with your system.


He did say "lose in style"...
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roibread
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March 15th, 2014 at 6:55:37 PM permalink
To clear up a couple things:
#1
This is a balanced martingale system, which means it reduces your loses but does not eliminate them completely in exchange for better odds of not having the final bet fail. For this reason the suggested starting bankroll has a buffer of 13 units over the max loss.

#2
Bet #5 says "bet 12 units on 5 of the 6 6ths". You are betting 2 units on 30 of the 36 numbers on the wheel. This gives you a 5 out of 6 chance of winning this bet. Side note: betting 24 on a 3rd is same as betting 2 on each of the numbers in that 3rd but the payout is 72 instead of 70.

#3
"your odds of losing look way too high."
bet 1: 1:2 x 1 = 1:2
bet 2: 1:3 x 2 = 1:6
bet 3: 1:3 x 6 = 1:18
bet 4: 1:2 x 18 = 1:36
bet 5: 1:6 x 36 = 1:216
bet 6: 1:3 x 216 = 1:648

#4
"how does this help you beat the House Advantage over time"
I have a bridge to sell you, PM me for info.
GWAE
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March 15th, 2014 at 7:01:53 PM permalink
Quote: roibread

To clear up a couple things:
#1
This is a balanced martingale system, which means it reduces your loses but does not eliminate them completely in exchange for better odds of not having the final bet fail. For this reason the suggested starting bankroll has a buffer of 13 units over the max loss.

#2
Bet #5 says "bet 12 units on 5 of the 6 6ths". You are betting 2 units on 30 of the 36 numbers on the wheel. This gives you a 5 out of 6 chance of winning this bet. Side note: betting 24 on a 3rd is same as betting 2 on each of the numbers in that 3rd but the payout is 72 instead of 70.

#3
"your odds of losing look way too high."
bet 1: 1:2 x 1 = 1:2
bet 2: 1:3 x 2 = 1:6
bet 3: 1:3 x 6 = 1:18
bet 4: 1:2 x 18 = 1:36
bet 5: 1:6 x 36 = 1:216
bet 6: 1:3 x 216 = 1:648

#4
"how does this help you beat the House Advantage over time"
I have a bridge to sell you, PM me for info.



in your op you listed a $237 exposure but in your illustrations you are talking units. Where are you playing a $1 table?

This system makes no sense. If you win your 4th bet you are down 1 unit. At least with a martingale you are up 1 unit.
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roibread
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March 15th, 2014 at 7:15:32 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

in your op you listed a $237 exposure but in your illustrations you are talking units. Where are you playing a $1 table?


$1 or 1 unit means same thing here.

Quote: GWAE

This system makes no sense. If you win your 4th bet you are down 1 unit. At least with a martingale you are up 1 unit.


You either didn't read or don't understand my last post.

I posted this system because I had no problem grinding out 25 units with no heat on the final bet. If the systems to complex for you to understand, don't try it.
roibread
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March 15th, 2014 at 7:53:49 PM permalink
If you use a system that never loses, on this size bankroll, your odds of going bust are 1:256 instead of 1:648.

This is what it would look like:

1 1:2
2 1:4
4 1:8
8 1:16
16 1:32
32 1:64
64 1:128
128 1:256

total loss: 255 which is about the same as this system.
GWAE
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March 15th, 2014 at 7:54:51 PM permalink
Quote: roibread

$1 or 1 unit means same thing here.


You either didn't read or don't understand my last post.

I posted this system because I had no problem grinding out 25 units with no heat on the final bet. If the systems to complex for you to understand, don't try it.



boy I am glad this forum has a block thread button.

good bye
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