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CrapsGenious
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February 9th, 2014 at 2:10:55 PM permalink
OK I just came from having lunch at the casino, walked by the craps table and noticed the same guy there from saturday night. Some regulars had mentioned that yes, he has been there since 1:am saturday morning till present. has approx. 4k in front of him (Blacks, greens and red chips) I started to watch his style of play and noticed he does the exact same thing for each shooter.

I'm gonna try a wincraps file on this type of play.

1) Starts with 30 on the field bet.
2) Field bet wins, he lets it ride for another win. (If field loses, he rebets 30/field)
3) After two wins on the field he has $120 in chips and then places the 6 & 8 for 60 each.
4) He then places 25/field and lets it ride for a second win.
5) He then places the 5 & 9 for 50 each.
6) repeats the field bet with 25 for two wins then places 4 & 10 for 50 each.

Obviously the guy has been doing quite well with this type of play since saturday night I noticed his chip stack only shy of $500 (3 blacks, 4 green and maybe a stack of reds)

Props to him for his success.
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GWAE
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February 9th, 2014 at 2:15:48 PM permalink
so when does he make money? He just keeps parlaying money.

I really think this system has potential.

Just as much as all other systems
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Beethoven9th
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February 9th, 2014 at 2:25:28 PM permalink
All those Field bets?!?! Sounds like a really lame system to me.
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CrapsGenious
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February 9th, 2014 at 2:32:26 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

so when does he make money? He just keeps parlaying money.

I really think this system has potential.



He utilises his profits from the field to fund his place bets and profits from the place bet winnings.

I myself am skeptical because the field is not really a good bet.

I ultimately believe that the firebet approach is the best way to play craps.

1) Bet 5/firebet each shooter.
2) After 3 points are made and puck is on the 4 number, lay the 4th number for 120.
3) If point is made, wait for 5th number and lay 600.
4) If point is made, wait for 6th number and lay up to 2000.

Best way to play craps for the squeamish players who hate risk.

But yeah, i'm gonna try that field2place approach in wincraps simulation to see if it actually holds water or the guy has just been lucky since last night.
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teddys
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February 9th, 2014 at 2:33:01 PM permalink
Absolutely terrible system.
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GWAE
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February 9th, 2014 at 2:37:18 PM permalink
Quote: CrapsGenious

He utilises his profits from the field to fund his place bets and profits from the place bet winnings.

I myself am skeptical because the field is not really a good bet.

I ultimately believe that the firebet approach is the best way to play craps.

1) Bet 5/firebet each shooter.
2) After 3 points are made and puck is on the 4 number, lay the 4th number for 120.
3) If point is made, wait for 5th number and lay 600.
4) If point is made, wait for 6th number and lay up to 2000.

Best way to play craps for the squeamish players who hate risk.

But yeah, i'm gonna try that field2place approach in wincraps simulation to see if it actually holds water or the guy has just been lucky since last night.



maybe the players around here aren't utilizing dice setting because I rarely see even a 4 number fire hit.
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skrbornevrymin
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February 9th, 2014 at 2:46:54 PM permalink
Apparently, it's a good system for the table conditions because it is working. It is probably not the optimal strategy for the same conditions, or for most conditions, but everyone gets lucky sometimes.

My favorite system is to find someone having a good streak of luck and playing with them. The real factor is usually long rolls, preferably repeating numbers. Under these conditions almost anyone can win with most any betting system because the lucky guy is the key. The only thing you don't want to do is play dark if he is playing the light or light if he is playing dark.
CrapsGenious
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February 9th, 2014 at 2:54:49 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

maybe the players around here aren't utilizing dice setting because I rarely see even a 4 number fire hit.



Wow! maybe the casino I attend must have really good shooters. Just the other night there was 7 fire bets rolled. But just the other morning I only caught 1x 5 number fire.

I see an opportunity to hedge about 2-3 firebets almost every visit.
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Beethoven9th
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February 9th, 2014 at 3:11:23 PM permalink
Quote: CrapsGenious

I ultimately believe that the firebet approach is the best way to play craps.

1) Bet 5/firebet each shooter.
2) After 3 points are made and puck is on the 4 number, lay the 4th number for 120.
3) If point is made, wait for 5th number and lay 600.
4) If point is made, wait for 6th number and lay up to 2000.

"Genious". Pure "genious". lol


Quote: CrapsGenious

But yeah, i'm gonna try that field2place approach in wincraps simulation to see if it actually holds water...

Why do you need to do a simulation to find out "if it actually holds water" when all the math has been done already?
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CrapsGenious
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February 9th, 2014 at 4:14:13 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

"Genious". Pure "genious". lol


Why do you need to do a simulation to find out "if it actually holds water" when all the math has been done already?



do you have the file on this?
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