jobaba
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October 20th, 2019 at 6:33:55 PM permalink
So, I ended up at AC in 2 consecutive weekends which has not happened for a while.

I have been sporadically in the past several years.

From 2000 until about 2011 I was a fairly heavy gambler, often going to AC multiple times in a weekend.

I ended up at Ballys (Main not Wild West) and was shocked to see about 4-5 tables with a $5 minimum. I could not even find a table with a $25 min, until I looked in the high roller section and there is where it was. Only one guy was sitting and playing.

I used to come to Ballys 15 years ago and you had to wait in line for a seat just to sit $25 at a crowded table. And that's not even factoring inflation.

I understand part of that was probably Hard Rock & Oceans taking customers, but $5 tables at Bally's Main on a Saturday night?

Wow...
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October 20th, 2019 at 6:37:41 PM permalink
Im pretty sure they all came to sands in pennsylvania at bethlehem/wind creek, sugar house, or mt airy. we have great... eh rules, but the tables are usually never below 15, are on average 25, and at least in wind creek, they have just recently designated one section to usually play for 50. We also have 100 dollar tables, and the 200 dollar tables are usually reserved within the 50 dollar section oddly.

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oh yeah we have stadium blackjack as well which is our cheapest at 5
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October 20th, 2019 at 6:50:15 PM permalink
Quote: jobaba


I used to come to Ballys 15 years ago and you had to wait in line for a seat just to sit $25 at a crowded table. And that's not even factoring inflation.

I understand part of that was probably Hard Rock & Oceans taking customers, but $5 tables at Bally's Main on a Saturday night?

Wow...



Thank the expansion of Gaming to new jurisdictions. They no longer have the east coast monopoly.
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October 20th, 2019 at 10:04:11 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

Thank the expansion of Gaming to new jurisdictions. They no longer have the east coast monopoly.

Only a cruise ship has captive players. Everyone else competes on some basis.
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October 21st, 2019 at 4:18:18 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Only a cruise ship has captive players. Everyone else competes on some basis.

not close to being true. Without reasonable rules I'm a cruiser, not a player.
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October 21st, 2019 at 6:18:00 AM permalink
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not close to being true. Without reasonable rules I'm a cruiser, not a player.

You can take to a deck chair, play shuffleboard, watch dolphins, stuff yourself at the buffet, drink and dance, but you can't gamble elsewhere if the rules and table limits are not to your liking.
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October 21st, 2019 at 7:12:13 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

You can take to a deck chair, play shuffleboard, watch dolphins, stuff yourself at the buffet, drink and dance, but you can't gamble elsewhere if the rules and table limits are not to your liking.



Not on the shp, but plenty of cruise ports have gambling (ie. Nassau, St Maarten, Aruba, Puerto Rico, etc.)
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October 21st, 2019 at 7:58:48 AM permalink
I noticed the same thing but I don't think it's shocking, table minimums are generally lower in the offseason.
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October 21st, 2019 at 8:35:42 AM permalink
I haven't been on many cruises and it's been a long time. The cruise actually had fairly good rules and even some + EV video poker due to a progressive. I can't remember the exact pay table but it couldn't have been too bad since the Progressive wasn't abnormally High. They had a significant amount of accumulating bonus slot machines.
The casino was never that busy their just seem to be a few people sprinkled in here and there.

I remember the food was absolutely fantastic, especially during dinner.
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October 21st, 2019 at 9:04:12 AM permalink
One possible cause of casino low limits is on-line gambling. Casinos have low limits to get your feet back in the casino.
I used to go to the casino every week. Now I might go once a month.
With on-line gambling, you don't have to go to the casino. Instead of traveling 75 miles to the casino, I can gamble at my desk. I don't have to pay for tolls, parking and gas.
Many casinos have on-line live dealers on-line.
The monthly AC gambling reports show that on-line gambling is increasing.
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October 21st, 2019 at 9:06:58 AM permalink
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I remember the food was absolutely fantastic, especially during dinner.

It usually is, I'm sure. People go on cruises for many reasons and to casinos for many reasons. I go to a casino to Gamble, Eat and Drink. Therefore shows, artwork, room embellishments and famous named places are of little interest to me. Its craps, roulette, blackjack baccarat; the Buffet, the Booze.

Weather in Atlantic City may make it "the off season" but its hot in Florida that it still be attractive irrespective of table minimums,
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October 21st, 2019 at 3:02:40 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

It usually is, I'm sure. People go on cruises for many reasons and to casinos for many reasons. I go to a casino to Gamble, Eat and Drink. Therefore shows, artwork, room embellishments and famous named places are of little interest to me. Its craps, roulette, blackjack baccarat; the Buffet, the Booze.

Weather in Atlantic City may make it "the off season" but its hot in Florida that it still be attractive irrespective of table minimums,



I go on vacations for sun, beach, eyecandy, food, and booze and to get away from gambling. I am working on booking my next Caribbean adventure right now.
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October 21st, 2019 at 7:46:30 PM permalink
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December 1st, 2019 at 9:59:22 PM permalink
Ballys has always catered to the barely 21 yr. old crowd who can only afford $5 games. In fact, they were the ones who championed $1 Blackjack several years ago. Go to Borgata, Trop or Hard Rock if you desire high limit action with multiple tables buzzing.

Or just skip AC and go to Resorts World in Monticello NY if the drive is feasible.
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December 2nd, 2019 at 2:01:26 PM permalink
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Or just skip AC and go to Resorts World in Monticello NY if the drive is feasible.



UGH - Resorts World Catskills is awful. Yes you'll find $25 and $50 tables on the floor, but good luck getting a room or any comps. Beautiful facility but very poorly managed.

Any of the AC casinos are much better the RWC. Was just at Resorts, Hard Rock and Borgata. Had a great time with plenty of choices for tables.
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December 2nd, 2019 at 2:18:14 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I haven't been on many cruises and it's been a long time. The cruise actually had fairly good rules and even some + EV video poker due to a progressive. I can't remember the exact pay table but it couldn't have been too bad since the Progressive wasn't abnormally High. They had a significant amount of accumulating bonus slot machines.
The casino was never that busy their just seem to be a few people sprinkled in here and there.

I remember the food was absolutely fantastic, especially during dinner.



we should get a WOV cruise together
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December 2nd, 2019 at 2:19:08 PM permalink
went to AC twice this summer. Ballys did not have $5 tables when I was there other than WWW. However they did have $5 craps on a friday night.
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December 2nd, 2019 at 4:20:41 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

we should get a WOV cruise together



Why anyone finds enjoyment being trapped on a boat with a crowd of people is beyond me. How is that a vacation?
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December 2nd, 2019 at 4:25:02 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Only a cruise ship has captive players. Everyone else competes on some basis.

That’s only true if there are other casinos nearby, like in Vegas or AC, etc.

Go to most regional casinos and the next closest casino could be 50 miles or more. Once you get in the casino, what are you gonna do? Walk out and drive another hour?


On the subject of cruises, my last cruise was July 2018 on Royal Caribbean. They had $5 craps. They also had this sign on the wall next to the cage:
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December 2nd, 2019 at 6:04:52 PM permalink
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They also had this sign on the wall next to the cage



Oh man, if they reset the progressives on a slot machine between sailings...Doesn't that raise the house edge by a HUGE percentage? Considering that slots with progressive jackpots include them in their RTP over the life of the setting the jackpot between cruises? Oof.
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December 2nd, 2019 at 8:30:16 PM permalink
Quote: bj4fun

UGH - Resorts World Catskills is awful. Yes you'll find $25 and $50 tables on the floor, but good luck getting a room or any comps. Beautiful facility but very poorly managed.

Any of the AC casinos are much better the RWC. Was just at Resorts, Hard Rock and Borgata. Had a great time with plenty of choices for tables.



In 27 trips there this year, I've lost twice. They give me comp rooms Sun-Thurs. and 400 Reward points every month with $50 match play coupons every week.

Plus for Blackjack, they offer Surrender, which is better than AC at any casino they have!
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December 3rd, 2019 at 1:00:20 AM permalink
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we should get a WOV cruise together

How many times do I have to tell you I don't swing that way, and I'm married?

However, assuming you can contain yourself and live with a no touching rule, I'd love to do a cruise with you, especially if your paying.
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December 22nd, 2019 at 8:42:09 PM permalink
Quote: jobaba


I used to come to Ballys 15 years ago and you had to wait in line for a seat just to sit $25 at a crowded table. And that's not even factoring inflation.



I've noticed this too. I remember the days of $25 min every table. Shouldn't be a surprise. Atlantic City is a shell of what it was. And Bally's especially has suffered. Nothing has been updated in decades. It used to be packed. Now it's mostly empty and the people who are there are depressing to be around. I still go for the $5 craps 10x odds, but it's otherwise a dirty and miserable place to gamble.

A notable thing for me is the area up the escalator--that used to be really active with multiple restaurants, a gift shop and a poker room running at least 10 tables. The poker room has moved and maybe has 3-4 tables running at a time. Most of the restaurants are closed. There used to be a great diner, decent Chinese food place, and at least 2 higher end options. Now there's a Guy Fieri place I've never eaten at and a sad Italian restaurant.
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January 6th, 2020 at 6:13:14 PM permalink
I saw a guy urinating on a potted plant in the corner a few weeks ago at Ballys, so at least you know they're no longer catering to just high rollers!
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