Senate Races 2014

Quote: rxwine

Don Sterling had lots of blacks working for him. So, I suppose, that makes him not a racist.

No, he owned a team that has a lot of blacks
on it. Big difference.

Quote: rxwine

Don Sterling had lots of blacks working for him. So, I suppose, that makes him not a racist.

+1 great comeback, got a good chuckle

Quote: terapined

+1 great comeback, got a good chuckle

So all white republican team owners are racist?
That's insane. I see far more racists on the Left
than the Right. Look at Obama and Holder. Obama
had the cop who hassled the black professor tried
and hung as soon as it came out. Holder went
to Ferguson and acted like the white cop was totally
at fault, recounting stories to the crowd on how he
himself had been racially profiled as a teen. He even
sent 50 FBI agents and forensic specialists to Ferguson.
Now it's looking like all the evidence points to the
officer defending himself against a 300 pound raging
lunatic and there won't even be an arrest.

Ok, so let's get back to the senate races, which are 2 days away.

Let's say that the Repubs have the good night that the models are projecting and take control of the Senate. What kind of mandate is that. I mean, I don't see where they are running on any kind of idea or proposals. It is just a referendum on a currently unpopular president.

So the repubs control the house and senate. Just insures more of the same gridlock for the next 2 years, which is really assured either way. So not a whole lot gets done. Maybe they cast another 50 votes to repeal Obamacare, which will have no teeth and waste time and money. :) Or maybe they do something really stupid and try to impeach Obama, as the fartherst right crazies want. (I can only hope).

So we fast forward to 2016, a presidential year and now the repubs get to take a bigger share of the credit for the Washington gridlock. And what about Immigration reform. Now in control of both chambers of congress, if they fail to pass something along the lines of immigration reform, they have no chance of winning a presidential election, when the latinos (fastest growing group of voters) come out to vote. Even many pretty conservative republican strategist admit this. And if they do pass some sort of immigration reform, they risk a big fight within their own party.

So they bottom line, the repubs may end up with more power after Tuesday, BUT be careful what you wish for, Lol

Quote: kewlj

Ok, so let's get back to the senate races, which are 2 days away.

Let's say that the Repubs have the good night that the models are projecting and take control of the Senate. What kind of mandate is that. I mean, I don't see where they are running on any kind of idea or proposals. It is just a referendum on a currently unpopular president.

So the repubs control the house and senate. Just insures more of the same gridlock for the next 2 years, which is really assured either way. So not a whole lot gets done. Maybe they cast another 50 votes to repeal Obamacare, which will have no teeth and waste time and money. :) Or maybe they do something really stupid and try to impeach Obama, as the fartherst right crazies want. (I can only hope).

So we fast forward to 2016, a presidential year and now the repubs get to take a bigger share of the credit for the Washington gridlock. And what about Immigration reform. Now in control of both chambers of congress, if they fail to pass something along the lines of immigration reform, they have no chance of winning a presidential election, when the latinos (fastest growing group of voters) come out to vote. Even many pretty conservative republican strategist admit this. And if they do pass some sort of immigration reform, they risk a big fight within their own party.

So they bottom line, the repubs may end up with more power after Tuesday, BUT be careful what you wish for, Lol

In all honest numbers don't favor them in 2016 anyways. You will have the senators voted in in a wave in 2010 being up for election in a presidential year so most likely many of them will not succeed in securing reelection. It is fairly unlikely that the republicans will be able to hold onto senate in 2016 unless they get a massive win this year which is not looking like what is shaping up. Most likely Republicans will end up between 51-53 seats. The number of republican seats up for election in 2016 plus changing demographics are just not good.

Quote: kewlj

Let's say that the Repubs have the good night that the models are projecting and take control of the Senate. What kind of mandate is that.

All that stuff that's been on the backburner. Anti-abortion, school prayer, English as official language, Creationism as alternative science, Anti-gay marriage, anti environment, voting id laws, overturning civil right mandates, retooling history books,

etc.,

All that is coming.

Quote: Twirdman

In all honest numbers don't favor them in 2016 anyways. You will have the senators voted in in a wave in 2010 being up for election in a presidential year so most likely many of them will not succeed in securing reelection. It is fairly unlikely that the republicans will be able to hold onto senate in 2016 unless they get a massive win this year which is not looking like what is shaping up. Most likely Republicans will end up between 51-53 seats. The number of republican seats up for election in 2016 plus changing demographics are just not good.

Absolutely correct. Of the 33 senate seats up for election in 2016, the repubs are defending a very high 24, while the dems are defending 9. And a number of those 24 seats are seats that were won in the repub wave of 2010. Seats in blue states like Pat Toomey in Pennsylvania. Without even knowing who the democratic candidate is, that is a very hard seat to defend in a blue state in a presidential year. The repubs start 2016 up against it, just as the dems started 2014 up against it, defending seats that where won in 2008.

The stink pile that has been Obama's presidency
will be really ripe in another 2 years, even smellier
than it is now. They ran and hid from him in this election,
some even refused to admit they voted for him. He
will majorly hurt his party in 2016, the Right will be
hammering his connection to any returning Dems.
We can only hope Hillary gets the nod so she can
be thrown on the pile as well.

Quote: kewlj

Absolutely correct. Of the 33 senate seats up for election in 2016, the repubs are defending a very high 24, while the dems are defending 9. And a number of those 24 seats are seats that were won in the repub wave of 2010. Seats in blue states like Pat Toomey in Pennsylvania. Without even knowing who the democratic candidate is, that is a very hard seat to defend in a blue state in a presidential year. The repubs start 2016 up against it, just as the dems started 2014 up against it, defending seats that where won in 2008.

Yeah I figured if Republicans didn't have an overwhelming victory in this election they were definitely going to lose in 2016. I mean if they don't pick up enough seats there is a chance at a supermajority. Though figure that is probably unlikely now. Thought assuming no major events Democrats could pick up a supermajority if republicans failed to pick up a majority this year but looks like they will get that. As for presidential elections Republicans are not in a good position there with demographic shifts pushing some purple states blue and shifting red states purple. I mean it is likely that by 2020 states like Texas may shift purple and when that starts happening the GOP is going to be in a very bad place.

Both parties are genocidally anti-White and evil. The leftists overtly so and the controlled opposition repukes via cowardice and complicty. Elections in America are meaningless, just kabuki theater at its' most absurd and evil. There are no peaceful, non-violent, political solutions for America's problems, none; and it is that simple, hey hey.
http://nypost.com/2014/10/26/obamas-plans-for-a-secret-radical-agenda-after-the-elections/

Quote: EvenBob

The stink pile that has been Obama's presidency
will be really ripe in another 2 years, even smellier
than it is now. They ran and hid from him in this election,
some even refused to admit they voted for him. He
will majorly hurt his party in 2016, the Right will be
hammering his connection to any returning Dems.
We can only hope Hillary gets the nod so she can
be thrown on the pile as well.

Just have to ask is this from the same oracle who guaranteed a Romney win in 2012 you know because the stink pile wasn't quite ripe then but will totes be then.

Quote: EvenBob

48 hours before polls start to close:
Wash Post 94%
HuffPo 75%
NYT 68%
Silver 73%

New numbers:

Wash Post 96%
HuffPo 75%
NYT 70%
Silver 75%

I'm sticking with my same model:

Quote: kewlj

Ok, so let's get back to the senate races, which are 2 days away.

Let's say that the Repubs have the good night that the models are projecting and take control of the Senate. What kind of mandate is that. I mean, I don't see where they are running on any kind of idea or proposals. It is just a referendum on a currently unpopular president.

So the repubs control the house and senate. Just insures more of the same gridlock for the next 2 years, which is really assured either way. So not a whole lot gets done. Maybe they cast another 50 votes to repeal Obamacare, which will have no teeth and waste time and money. :) Or maybe they do something really stupid and try to impeach Obama, as the fartherst right crazies want. (I can only hope).

The thing is that what you describe is the exact same situation the Democrats were in back in 2006. They ran on no ideas except hating Bush. It was about the momentum. As to impeachment, no matter how much the guy has ignored the Constitution it is Democrats that have mostly brought it up.

Quote:

So we fast forward to 2016, a presidential year and now the repubs get to take a bigger share of the credit for the Washington gridlock. And what about Immigration reform. Now in control of both chambers of congress, if they fail to pass something along the lines of immigration reform, they have no chance of winning a presidential election, when the latinos (fastest growing group of voters) come out to vote. Even many pretty conservative republican strategist admit this. And if they do pass some sort of immigration reform, they risk a big fight within their own party.

Nonsense on immigration reform. Most voters just want current laws enforced. Don't listen to the lamestreams. All that is needed on immigration is to actually enforce current law. To say Latinos want nothing but immigration reform is silly.

Quote: rxwine

Something wrong with the Republican party or something wrong with races other than white

You select which Ron.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/160373/democrats-racially-diverse-republicans-mostly-white.aspx

The liberals are the real racists. Keeping minorities on handouts is all about keeping them in their place.

Quote: mickeycrimm

The liberals are the real racists. Keeping minorities on handouts is all about keeping them in their place.

And this is why I continue to object to Americans using 'Democrat' and 'liberal' as synonyms.

Quote: EvenBob

Rush Limbaugh's call screener for the 25 years
he's been on national radio has been James
Golden, a black guy. On any call-in radio show,
the screener sets the agenda by what calls he
lets get thru. I wonder if Rush knows he's supposed
to be a racist because he's on the Right.

A black man in a subservient position? Hmmm, not racist at all.

Maybe Rush doesn't believe in black people, like ghosts.

Quote: Sonuvabish

A black man in a subservient position? Hmmm, not racist at all. Maybe Rush doesn't believe in black people, like ghosts.

Sorry, Bish, but to me the real racists are the ones that are always talking about race, like you.

I've always been Independent and in the middle in this country. In the past I've voted for those in either party. I'll be voting Republican tomorrow because I see them as the lesser of two evils.

Quote: Sonuvabish

A black man in a subservient position? Hmmm, not racist at all.

That is the kind of statement that shows the ignorance of the rqce-baiters out there. A successful black man works for a successful white man. There is nothing racist at all about the relationship between Rush Limbaugh and his employees; present evidence of it if you think that there is. Al Sharpton, a black man, works for MSNBC which is part of NBCUniversal. The head of NBCUniversal:

http://corporate.comcast.com/news-information/leadership-overview/stephen-b-burke

Is it always racist for a black man to work for a white man or is it only when it involves Rush Limbaugh?

Quote: mickeycrimm

Sorry, Bish, but to me the real racists are the ones that are always talking about race, like you.

I've always been Independent and in the middle in this country. In the past I've voted for those in either party. I'll be voting Republican tomorrow because I see them as the lesser of two evils.

I like to talk about race but I dont believe I am racist.
Its a subject that facinates me because I am bi-racial.

I voted Democrat just this Saturday because I see them as the lesser of 2 evils.
Its great our gay members here have gotten married. I wish them all happiness. Thats one main reason I voted Demo day before yesterday.

Quote: RonC

That is the kind of statement that shows the ignorance of the rqce-baiters out there. A successful black man works for a successful white man. There is nothing racist at all about the relationship between Rush Limbaugh and his employees; present evidence of it if you think that there is. Al Sharpton, a black man, works for MSNBC which is part of NBCUniversal. The head of NBCUniversal: http://corporate.comcast.com/news-information/leadership-overview/stephen-b-burke

Is it always racist for a black man to work for a white man or is it only when it involves Rush Limbaugh?

I see no racism in a person who believes in low taxes and less government. It's just the left's way of demonizing those who carry those beliefs.

Quote: mickeycrimm

I've always been Independent and in the middle in this country. In the past I've voted for those in either party. I'll be voting Republican tomorrow because I see them as the lesser of two evils.

The "lesser" of two evils is,,,,,,,,still evil. I decided long ago that those would not be my only choices in this contrived paradigm. That's how Obama got elected, same as Bush. The public is so sick of a candidate by the time they are forced out of office they will elect the opposite, regardless of party affiliation. Then re elect the bastards from sheer apathy. Round and round and round we go, unless something changes, nothing changes. Alas.

Re: dems and repubs ARE synonyms, equally evil, flip sides of the same phony coin.

ps its getting colder here. It only hit 86 yesterday probably 81 including chill factor, we couldn't use the pool without turning on the heater, sheesh

Quote: terapined

Its great our gay members here have gotten married. I wish them all happiness.

Agreed.

Quote: terapined

Thats one main reason I voted Demo day before yesterday.

Oy.

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So much pain, so much death, so much waste. We're on the brink of a thousand individual disasters. And the biggest concern for millions of Americans... is where we can stuff our wieners.

Excellent post Face. With great links.

So true about the concerns of millions of Americans. I wish people would not rely on tv to let them know what is important or what the "issues" are.

I wish parents wouldn't use tv to "babysit" their kids. Or electronic war games.

Civilization will not turn around until we can shut off the tv, hear natural sounds, listen to the world, and be the influence in our kids lives we are supposed to be.

Quote: petroglyph

Civilization will not turn around until we can shut off the tv, hear natural sounds, listen to the world, and be the influence in our kids lives we are supposed to be.

I read a study that said we work fewer
hours now and have more leisure time
than we did in the 60's, yet are far less
happy. There's a real push now to always
be doing something; watching cable news,
being on your cell, checking FB and social
media every waking hour of the day. People
are frazzled.

Go hug a tree Bob. And you will feel better.

Quote: EvenBob

I read a study that said we work fewer
hours now and have more leisure time
than we did in the 60's, yet are far less
happy. There's a real push now to always
be doing something; watching cable news,
being on your cell, checking FB and social
media every waking hour of the day. People
are frazzled.

Bob, question the validity of the study you are referencing.

Does that make sense to you? If averaged and includes everyone that is not in the workforce, then maybe?

But, in the 60's we had a predominance of one parent working family's where one could be a provider and one could nurture, supposedly.

I'm just asking if that study makes sense to you? I know I averaged between 2500 and 2800 hours per year, on the books and did plenty on the side that seemed like work, wood heat etc. Nah, I can't go with that study. My dad worked hard as well,[in the 60's] but mom stayed with us brats and he got weekends off.

Quote: petroglyph

Bob, question the validity of the study you are referencing.
.

I'd much rather believe your opinion than a study
that involved thousands of personal diaries that
covered 1940 to 1980, and took a decade to
complete. What was I thinking.

Quote: terapined

I like to talk about race but I dont believe I am racist.
Its a subject that facinates me because I am bi-racial.

I voted Democrat just this Saturday because I see them as the lesser of 2 evils.
Its great our gay members here have gotten married. I wish them all happiness. Thats one main reason I voted Demo day before yesterday.

I'm not against gay marriage. Some of my straight friends on the right think that gay marriage somehow diminishes them. But two people of the same gender marrying doesn't diminish me in any shape, form, or fashion.

Quote: EvenBob

Quote:

What was I thinking.

A lot of people wonder that very same thing

Quote: mickeycrimm

The liberals are the real racists. Keeping minorities on handouts is all about keeping them in their place.

I favor means test. Republicans talk about stuff they don't seem to want to fund, and more likely cut programs than make them work.

Actually, I've noticed many Republicans favor charitable giving, much of which often doesn't means test. How many churches, or private charitable organizations means test the "needy" when they show up. And money is just thrown like pigeons getting free food in the park.

So, I don't take this accusation seriously because the other side has been destroying society in the same way conditioning people to take. And under even more weak oversight than what I favor as a liberal.

Quote: EvenBob

48 hours before polls start to close:
Wash Post 94%
HuffPo 75%
NYT 68%
Silver 73%

6 hours to go:

Wash Post 98%
HuffPo 79%
NYT 75%
Silver 77%
CNN 94%

Harry Reid has changed his Depends 3
times today.

Quote: EvenBob

I switched models
and it didn't help:

I don't know about that.

Quote: EvenBob

I read a study that said we work fewer
hours now and have more leisure time
than we did in the 60's, yet are far less
happy. There's a real push now to always
be doing something; watching cable news,
being on your cell, checking FB and social
media every waking hour of the day. People
are frazzled.

People are more unhappy now than 50 years ago because everything they see and hear tells them to be unhappy.

There is no such thing as enough, whether you're talking money, love, possessions, whatever measure. Advertisers make sure you will buy their product by making you feel insecure, inferior, ugly, ungenerous, or imperfect. And, as EB says, we are inundated by messaging from all sides.

The happiest people I know were raised without cable or the internet. They concentrated on family, friends, their animals, their schooling. They had no money to speak of, so they didn't waste a lot of energy wishing for "things", and they didn't have the constant pounding message that would create dissatisfaction with their lives. Now they're in their 20's, individuals and realists, and they're creative, happy, and productive. So I'm convinced by their example that the thing to do is turn off all the babble and hype, and enjoy what life has to offer.

Some last minute election thoughts: The repubs looked poised to take control of the Senate, although there are a couple wildcards in play like Georgia, Kansas, Alaska, that could save Democrats. But let's look at those states....we are talking republican strongholds and they are the states in play. That tells me a republican 'win' tomorrow isn't as much of a republican win as it is a vote against the incumbent president.

Now lets examine that particular situation. In my lifetime there have been 4, two term presidents, 2 republicans, Reagan and George W Bush and two Democrats, Clinton and now Obama, so it's an even split and fair sample to examine. You really don't want to go back any further than this because then you are getting into a different era as far as electronic instant news and 24/hr cable cycles. In each of these second term midterms, the presidents party took a beating only 2 years after he was re-elected, and each of these cases the president finished the last 2 years of his final term with the opposite party controlling both chambers of congress, just as is likely to happen here. So, this anti-president, second term, midterm, thing isn't anything new. As a matter of fact it is just the norm, for both parties. This says to me that even popular presidents make all these promises that they can't keep and after 6 years, the American public is ready to move on.

So this year isn't anything unusual...it's just business as usual. And really, with the map tilted strongly in the republicans favor on this particular cycle, you can argue that the fact that some of these races in deep red states are still close, isn't a glowing endorsement for the republicans either. They are nearly as unpopular as the democrats, just benefiting by trends (vote against incumbent president in the 6th year) and circumstances (so happens that majority the races occur in red states, giving them home field advantage).

So, the repubs are likely to register a win tomorrow or in the coming days and weeks depending on run-off scenarios in Georgia and Louisiana and my repub friends will celebrate, not go into hiding for a year, (lol) and talk about a mandate (which it really isn't), but the facts haven't changed. Repubs are on the wrong end of a changing electorate and unless they do something to be more inclusive to non-white men (their biggest demographic), their future doesn't look very bright for them.

Edit: In the name of accuracy, President Clinton's party did not lose big in the midterm elections of his second term. The republicans already held advantageous in both the house and senate and that remained the case for Clinton's final two years.

Quote: kewlj

Some last minute election thoughts: The repubs looked poised to take control of the Senate, although there are a couple wildcards in play like Georgia, Kansas, Alaska, that could save Democrats. But let's look at those states....we are talking republican strongholds and they are the states in play. That tells me a republican 'win' tomorrow isn't as much of a republican win as it is a vote against the incumbent president.

Now lets examine that particular situation. In my lifetime there have been 4, two term presidents, 2 republicans, Reagan and George W Bush and two Democrats, Clinton and now Obama, so it's an even split and fair sample to examine. You really don't want to go back any further than this because then you are getting into a different era as far as electronic instant news and 24/hr cable cycles. In each of these second term midterms, the presidents party took a beating only 2 years after he was re-elected, and each of these cases the president finished the last 2 years of his final term with the opposite party controlling both chambers of congress, just as is likely to happen here. So, this anti-president, second term, midterm, thing isn't anything new. As a matter of fact it is just the norm, for both parties. This says to me that even popular presidents make all these promises that they can't keep and after 6 years, the American public is ready to move on.

So this year isn't anything unusual...it's just business as usual. And really, with the map tilted strongly in the republicans favor on this particular cycle, you can argue that the fact that some of these races in deep red states are still close, isn't a glowing endorsement for the republicans either. They are nearly as unpopular as the democrats, just benefiting by trends (vote against incumbent president in the 6th year) and circumstances (so happens that majority the races occur in red states, giving them home field advantage).

So, the repubs are likely to register a win tomorrow or in the coming days and weeks depending on run-off scenarios in Georgia and Louisiana and my repub friends will celebrate, not go into hiding for a year, (lol) and talk about a mandate (which it really isn't), but the facts haven't changed. Repubs are on the wrong end of a changing electorate and unless they do something to be more inclusive to non-white men (their biggest demographic), their future doesn't look very bright for them.

Edit: In the name of accuracy, President Clinton's party did not lose big in the midterm elections of his second term. The republicans already held advantageous in both the house and senate and that remained the case for Clinton's final two years.

I like the way Bill Clinton worked with Republicans up to the end and got a lot of things done, including balancing the budget.

Quote: rxwine

Actually, I've noticed many Republicans favor charitable giving, much of which often doesn't means test. How many churches, or private charitable organizations means test the "needy" when they show up. And money is just thrown like pigeons getting free food in the park.

So, I don't take this accusation seriously because the other side has been destroying society in the same way conditioning people to take. And under even more weak oversight than what I favor as a liberal.

Not exactly. Conservative folks give to charities because they favor the way the charity is run. Liberals favor raising someone other than their own's taxes because they just think we "generally should help people."

A private charity will be structured to help people get back on their feet, government welfare, OTOH, is set up so that they want as many people on it for as long as possible as it means more money, jobs, and goodies for the department running, it. If you manage your welfare office and 1,000 clients are on it now but in five years there are 1,200 well you have "built your business" and have more people under you! You get told it is a good thing.

Sad reality but we have a large government poverty-industrial complex that will be next to impossible to kill.

Quote: petroglyph

The "lesser" of two evils is,,,,,,,,still evil. I decided long ago that those would not be my only choices in this contrived paradigm. That's how Obama got elected, same as Bush. The public is so sick of a candidate by the time they are forced out of office they will elect the opposite, regardless of party affiliation. Then re elect the bastards from sheer apathy. Round and round and round we go, unless something changes, nothing changes. Alas.

Re: dems and repubs ARE synonyms, equally evil, flip sides of the same phony coin.

ps its getting colder here. It only hit 86 yesterday probably 81 including chill factor, we couldn't use the pool without turning on the heater, sheesh

Couldn't agree with this post more. BOTH parties are equally responsible for the enormous financial mess this country is in. Both the democrats and republicans do nothing meaningful but kick the can down the road to the next generation. As a country we are losing our way as a superpower, soon to be crushed by the inevitable economic collapse of our national debt. Soon might not be next year, or even in 10 years, but it's coming. Each year we spend HUNDREDS of BILLIONS more than we take in, our national debt is approaching 18 TRILLION dollars. It's a looming disaster. But any politician that tries to cut spending in any meaningful way, is crushed in the media, and called an extremist by both sides. The established parties are only interested in maintaining power.

STOP voting for the same morons. The approval rating of congress is at an all-time low...yet today..election day. Well over 90% of them will be reelected...how is this possible. We need new blood and new ideas...not sniping over, abortion, or gay marriage. Frankly we can't afford to waste much time on those issues.

Can Mitch Mcconnell govern ?
OR
Will Ted Cruz run the senate and abolish the IRS, start impeachment hearings, roll back obamacare to take away peoples insurance, do another govt shutdown and make gay marraige illegal.

We shall see

Quote: terapined

Can Mitch Mcconnell govern ?
OR
Will Ted Cruz run the senate and abolish the IRS, start impeachment hearings, roll back obamacare to take away peoples insurance, do another govt shutdown and make gay marraige illegal.

We shall see

We can only hope for Obamacare to be repealed completely, it has increased the cost of Health Insurance for most people while giving less choice.

If Obama wants to shut down the government again let him. His actions last time showed a total incompetence of leadership. A real leader would have kept as much as possible open by any means necessary. Instead he tried to close as much as he could.

Quote: AZDuffman

We can only hope for Obamacare to be repealed completely, it has increased the cost of Health Insurance for most people while giving less choice.

If Obama wants to shut down the government again let him. His actions last time showed a total incompetence of leadership. A real leader would have kept as much as possible open by any means necessary. Instead he tried to close as much as he could.

The problem is the public didn't see it that way because they don't pay attention and the media spun it the other way. You and I both know too many people want their handouts so its easy for the media to spin it as the bad GOP trying to take away their stuff. Sad but true.

Quote: EvenBob

48 hours before polls start to close:
Wash Post 94%
HuffPo 75%
NYT 68%
Silver 73%

6 hours to go:

Wash Post 98%
HuffPo 79%
NYT 75%
Silver 77%
CNN 94%

Harry Reid has changed his Depends 3
times today.

Well, the GOP has taken over at least and looks like they will keep going. Some thoughts:

1. The "Democrat Brand" is clearly damaged. Eight years after they captured congress in a big fashion they lost in an even bigger one. Some things are clearly wrong.

2. The Democrat Party, a once noble party and the party of the great Andrew Jackson, has moved far left and is controlled by the fringe-left. This drives the regular voter away as the Democrat Party is just too far out of the mainstream and instead pursues draconian, mean-spirited policies in the form of higher taxes and taking away personal freedoms of Americans.

3. The Democrat Party needs to quit talking about social issues and start talking about the issues Americans care about.

4. Democrats have ignored and alienated the white vote, ignoring the fact that this is the largest demographic. Until they drop their hostility towards whites they will have more results like they did tonight.

Surely there is more, but it is well past my bedtime.

They just announced the Repubs control all
of congress. What this means is Obummer
cannot appoint any more totally Left leaning
SCOTUS judges and get them passed. Thank
god for the way this country is set up, the
founding fathers were geniuses.

This election showed how severely damaged
the Clinton brand is. Neither one of them
got the candidates they endorsed elected,
not even in Bill's home state. Pathetic.

Quote: terapined

Can Mitch Mcconnell govern ?

You are fixing to find out whether he can or not. Face it, brother, you got your ass kicked today.

I'm still in the middle. But this is some of the funny shit I see. Two days ago, on CNN commercial, Wolf Blitzer says "Follow us as we follow the Kentucky senator race. It's neck to neck. Follow us as the citizens so closely decide." Blitzer can kiss my ass. He's a lying, phony, fake, piece of shit, mother $$^&**(()).

Quote: mickeycrimm

You are fixing to find out whether he can or not. Face it, brother, you got your ass kicked today.

Congrats. Yes the blue team got an ass kicking :-)
It was a red night last nite.
So weird, Repubs red. I grew thinking red meant the left as in Red China, Maos's little red book, or Warren Beatty movie Reds about the Russian revolution.
How did the color red move from left to right. weird.

Good luck the next 2 years. This sets the table for President Clinton.
Think the public is all of the sudden gonna give congress a thumbs up after 2 years.
Congress with repubs in power, congress will remain hated, that's just the way it is, 2 years lots of repubs defending.

Looking forward to the Mitch/Cruz battles.
I expect impeachment proceedings that will go nowhere and will be a waste of time.

Quote: terapined

Congrats. Yes the blue team got an ass kicking :-)
It was a red night last nite.
So weird, Repubs red. I grew thinking red meant the left as in Red China, Maos's little red book, or Warren Beatty movie Reds about the Russian revolution.
How did the color red move from left to right. weird.

Watch some youtube videos from the 1980 election for weird. It is reversed, Red Dem, Blue GOP. I think before 2000 there was no standard but for some reason that election both the networks all picked the same scheme and we saw the colors for weeks as Gore tried to steal the election in the courts so the colors kind of locked in everyone's mind.

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Good luck the next 2 years. This sets the table for President Clinton.
Think the public is all of the sudden gonna give congress a thumbs up after 2 years.

And why would this be? History suggests the total opposite as 2006-2008 proves. A POTUS falling in popularity and his party with a damaged brand. Governing out of the mainstream. Massively thinned bench.

Looking at Obama's history and personality he will keep moving further and further left and picking more and more battles. The message will not sink in. We could even see another financial crisis. My prediction there is the Fed raises rates and the banks take huge losses as they have to mark their bond holdings to market. Time will tell on that.

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I expect impeachment proceedings that will go nowhere and will be a waste of time.

You need to get your news from somewhere besides MSNBC. Only Dems are talking impeachment.

Well, Election day has come and gone, so you know what that means. No Evenbob for the next 2-3 months. We'll miss you ole buddy.

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You need to get your news from somewhere besides MSNBC. Only Dems are talking impeachment.

Really? Both Joni Ernst and ted Cruz have mentioned impeachment being on the table, TODAY, November 5, the first day after the election.