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April 22nd, 2010 at 6:41:15 AM permalink
DJTeddyBear
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In my thread about the letter I intend to sent to ShuffleMaster, Harrah's and Showboat, I detailed a betting system I was using.
FYI: Here's that thread: http://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/1548-bad-rapidroulette-experience/

Discussions about that system can be addressed here.

In short, it's a two-pronged system.

1 - Bet the inside minimum on the five most recent numbers hit. This plays into the fact that when glancing at the recent results display, you often see multiples. I'm still on the fence about the optimal number of recent numbers to bet on.

2 - Bet the outside minimum on the most recent dozens, as well as the least recent dozens. This plays into the system that some people have that you're very likely to hit, and it pays double, etc. Of course, a a win is combined with a loss and a loss is TWO losses. But it also plays into the emotion of betting on a 'hot' section of numbers, as well as a section that is 'due'.


Pressing the bets if it actually works and I'm doing OK, etc.
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April 22nd, 2010 at 7:11:45 AM permalink
DJTeddyBear
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By the way, the system was actually not doing too badly, although my test was only about ten spins.

On most spins, one of the dozens would win, meaning an overall push.

I was planning on pressing the dozens bet by 50¢, but my problems were getting in my way.

Also, althogh on two spins NONE of my bets paid, on one spin, one of the inside numbers hit. And on the spin that my frustrations got the better of me where I hit the Cash Out button, another inside number hit, and one of the dozens would have hit.

I would have been ahead at that point if I played that last spin....
Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood?
April 22nd, 2010 at 9:48:25 AM permalink
FleaStiff
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Quote: DJTeddyBear

> - This plays into the fact that when glancing at the recent results display, you often see multiples.
I'm glad!! Its really good to hear that others see more than one annunciator. I always thought it was because I was drunk. Oh... by multiples you mean repeating numbers even if not immediately in succession. Well, I don't know if takes place often but I assume that it would. Don't know if that means anything for the next roll though.

>I'm still on the fence about the optimal number of recent numbers to bet on.
I thought the whole point was that each number has the same chance of winning so its only a question of how high your bankroll is.

>Bet the outside minimum on the most recent dozens, as well as the least recent dozens.
>It plays into the emotion of betting on a 'hot' section of numbers, as well as a section that is 'due'.
You said it: EMOTION.
April 22nd, 2010 at 10:21:15 AM permalink
DJTeddyBear
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For the record, I'm not normally a Roulette player.

But prior to my trip in February, a friend suggested the idea of betting on two dozens. And something in a post here got me thinking about hot / repeating numbers.

So I figured I'd try it on RapidRoulette, since that should have gotten me the maximum number of trials for the time I was going to allot to it, and the lower betting unit appealed to me.



Yeah, each number has the same chance of hitting. But as is so often shown on those annunciator displays, there are frequent repeaters. Or one or two gap repeaters.

Yeah, I realize that the entire concept goes against all the math, but I'm willing to throw a few bucks at it to satisy my emotional belief that there might actually be something to the theory. I welcome discussion and comments about the optimal number of prior numbers to bet on.



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Its really good to hear that others see more than one annunciator. I always thought it was because I was drunk.
Um.... Have a drink on me. You obviously need another. :)
Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood?
April 22nd, 2010 at 2:50:18 PM permalink
FleaStiff
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So what you are trying to do is capture the events wherein a number repeats. You are apparently willing to forgo an immediate repeat but want to capture a one or two gap repeat.
Simplest might be to do the most recent three numbers, but since in describing your impressions you focused on a one or two number gap that is what I would suggest you go for: Don't do a straight up bet on the most recent number, but do inside bets on the two previously spun numbers.

My first time at roulette I was doing Middle Dozen, Color and Middle Row ... for a long time it was working out great. And I didn't even really know what I was doing.
April 22nd, 2010 at 3:49:47 PM permalink
DJTeddyBear
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I'm not focusing on gapped repeats. I simply mentioned that because gapped repeats, as well as immediate repeats, are often seen on the display.

What I'm looking for is the optimal number of most recent hits to bet on.

For the record, when the interface allowed me to get my bets in, I was betting on the 5 most recent hits. The one time that one of those five hit, I left all five up.

Personally, I truly believe that, whatever the number, adding a gap to the mix is irrelevant and just makes it easier to screw up.


I.E. If this has any merit, and assuming that *5* is the optimum number of numbers to bet on, then betting on the 5 most recent hits, is just as good as betting on the 3rd thru 7th most recent hits.
Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood?
April 22nd, 2010 at 3:53:09 PM permalink
DJTeddyBear
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And let me repeat that although this system has my gears turning and emotions flowing, logically, I believe that it's just as good/bad as any other system.
Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood?
July 17th, 2010 at 6:17:43 AM permalink
RonC
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I know that "systems" won't work in the long run and they often don't even work in the short run...but I do enjoy doing something the same way for a number of rolls as opposed to just splashing chips. The math would say that splashing has the same chances as a "pattern" or "system"...

My favorites:

Ten $10 bets on "36"--I have done okay with this. Minimal losses (my limit is $100) and some nice wins, including a repeater at Sahara.

Bet two columns at the bottom of the layout. I've had some long sessions with this one...

$10 spread with $5 on 17 and each of the three number groups covered in the middle. The extra $1 goes on the 36, of course!! When I have an odd number of chips after a winner, $1 often goes on the zero.

I'd like to hear what others do. I know it doesn't change the math behind the game, but I still enjoy a little roulette every trip. I just don't play more than one or two sessions of $100...
August 11th, 2010 at 7:01:46 AM permalink
rdw4potus
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Quote: corvette888
No,no no.I am a professional roulette player for over 30 years.Its the ONLY game I play in the casino.
A much better system,better than yours?Sure!I'm not going to go into detail.But just pick up the 2 roulette tapes or DVD's from John Patrick.

Try the action number system!But NOT on a choppy table!Chart the tables first and make sure your "action numbers"are coming in on that table.And if you lose 3 times in a row,leave that table immediately!Thats another problem with amateur roulette players!


I can't tell if you ARE John Patrick, or if you actually think it's possible to play roulette profitably over the long run on a fair wheel. I'll assume the former, since the latter is pretty obviously impossible.
"So as the clock ticked and the day passed, opportunity met preparation, and luck happened." - Maurice Clarett
August 11th, 2010 at 9:24:48 AM permalink
ruascott
Member since: Mar 30, 2010
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Quote: corvette888
No,no no.I am a professional roulette player for over 30 years.Its the ONLY game I play in the casino.
A much better system,better than yours?Sure!



Ahahahahahaha.....Thanks, I was having a pretty crappy morning until I read this post and got a good laugh. Obviously you like your system because it mentally stimulates you by having to do constant calculations under the assumption you are actually accomplishing something. Either that, or like POTUS said, you are John Patrick.
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