My Roulette System

Actually, I'm probably not the only one who is bored to death with all the explanations of roulette and craps playing and betting styles. We don't care how exactly you lose your money.

Impossible?Its obvious you have no idea of real systems with money management,loss limits,win limits,combining sytems and more.When i say win,I mean many times coming ahead perhaps 20-50 dollars only and then quitting for that session.
Not hundreds of dollars,atleast not all the time ect ect.Impossible?What rock did you crawl out from under?You more than likely have no idea of what the action number system is...and I only described it here in a little detail.Its obvious that when you are playing 22 numbers out of 38 numbers for every spin,your chances are very good,but the pay off is small and a grind.Impossible?Wow,I never heard such ignorance.Proof?Sure!All you have to do is buy his tapes.They were shot in Alantic City on a real roulette table....Harrahs,Clariage Casino's.With no setups,live with the dealers and a pit boss overlooking the whole scene.No cheating,no camera tricks.Certainly there is no system that will pay money all the time...the casino's would go out of business.But Roulette not paying off in the long run?I care to differ!I average a modest 1000-2000 dollars profit every year by Dec 31st.I keep strict records of my wins and losses.My bankroll is not too high,else I would win more.
The casino's do not have to have an unfair wheel or have that misconception about dealers knowing how to land that ball on a certain spot on the wheel.Its players like you rdw4potus,that "give away"your money with no real type of purly good system,or good money management system that will reduce the vigor of over 5% the Casino has on roulette.

So,you can "gawk"or say whatever you want...I have met guys like you every year who say impossible,this ,that...yes....impossible TO YOU,since you think just plugging down chips(like you do)and hoping for the "best"without charting,without preparation,without anything but false hope will in the long run actually lose for you!
Sorry,rdw4potus.You talk in "cliches".I've heard it before.I've heard it right aside of me at the table.The guy next to me had a buy in of 500 dollars.I had 80 dollars.After 45 minutes the guy next to me went broke.I was up 125 dollars,quit and got some dinner and two drinks.Later went back made one double dozen bet for 50 dollars.Hit and quit for the evening.Went home with 150 dollars.Not a big win but thats the key...conservative betting and quitting.

Never say impossible rdw4potus.For you maybe yes!Without even attempting to buy John Patricks tapes,you automatically make a statement like that?No system is perfect,but he goes into systems that are also not good...like the martingale and others.Systems give you an approach to better gambling,once you have mastered the system that is best for you relative to your bankroll.You said it is impossible to pay a profit in the long run?Well,what length of time are you talking about?A long run could be a few weeks,months or a year or three.I might gamble only 5 months out of the year and only make 7 or 8 visits in 5 months.Are you saying that I can't come ahead after 8 visits covering the long run of 5 months?Stop talking silly!Its obvious you need some lessons on gambling.Well,I just gave you some advise above.Take it and stop trying to claim indirectly that others are lying!

If you consider a strategy that leads consistently to an average win of $50 on 4 out of 5 sessions and loses $300 on the fifth session to be a winning strategy, then I agree completely that you can have a long-term "winning" strategy at roulette. That just doesn't meet my definition of consistently winning, and I don't believe that any practical roulette strategy will consistently win you more and more money.

As I recently commented on this forum, for 2010 ytd, I am ahead at craps. I have had 18 winning sessions, 14 losing sessions, and 5 break-even sessions. My winning sessions have netted 34.8% more than I lost in the losing sessions. Does that suggest that I have a winning system? No way!

I plan on giving myself every chance to make it into the negative realm before the end of the year, and I am committed to having as much fun as possible along the way. Next week brings a trip through Tunica, Greenville, Vicksburg, Pearl River, and Biloxi (at least 7 casinos on the schedule). In September I will be heading northeast, hitting casinos in Connecticut, New Brunswick, and Nova Scotia, with the possibility of adding a few in Delaware on the trip home. Entertainment is the objective (and collecting souvenir chips). Money is just a way of keeping score.

same with you ruascott...it is "I"that laugh hysterically at YOU!Read my post that I just made with another player...it concerns you too!As to "calculations"..where do you get this crap?I make no calculations at all in my systems.You are another one who likes to say "impossible"!Why?I'll tell you why ruascott.Because you have lost many times in the past,whether it be roulette,blackjack or other games and consider yourself a fairly good player,so to you,this means that no one else could possibly outdo you,so you try and put down someone who can do something you cannot do!No,it is ME that has the "last laugh"with guys like you!

Proper systems with charting and money management will logically yield better results,than guys who gamble like you...blindly and hoping for the best,which will not come nearly as often as me,aleast on the roulette table.
The casino's will always make money off of guys like you who have no real clue of whats going on,but think you do.
Did you ever try the system(s)i'm speaking of?Of course you did not!But you want to laugh?Well,its a dumb laugh for sure.You aren't retarded are you?
There is no such thing as a get rich method in any gambling system,but definitely a better way to win with the proper system,charting,money management and more.These things its obvious you do not do.You have neither the patience or desire to do the things I do...like walking around for atleast a half hour or more charting the table for numbers that appear to match the numbers in the system,driving to the casino only when the minimums are DECREASED to 5 or 10 dollars which sometimes is only in the early morning hours at some casino's...this is part of the system to be able to drop down to the minimums when in a small losing streak ect.You have no clue Ruascott,it appears to me...so laugh on guy!You will probably be sitting down aside of me one day,acting big,wearing a suit and smoking a cuban cigar.You will proudly display 2000 in chips piled high in front of you with a few black ones.I'll be the guy sitting aside of you with a measely 150 dollars in chips.After about an hour,after playing your favorite roulette numbers,anniversary numbers,birthdate numbers and a few outside big color bets that you have been losing quickly over the hour,you will stand up,sigh,and cash out all but the 20 dollars you have left,claming the wheel is fixed or the dealer is some kind of cheat.
After my hour is up,i'll stretch,and say the words "cash out" with 280 dollars on the table for a profit of 130 dollars.Get a buffet for 10 dollars and a margarita for another 10 dollars and drive home to Allentown,Pa.

Yes,Ruscott,you remind me of the guy that laughs(at guys like me) and plunks down the money with no real true game plan and goes away a loser.Hell,you say to yourself...if i can't win with a big bankroll like 2000 dollars,there is no way someone can beat ME in profit starting with only 150 dollars in chips!!!!

Ha,ha,the ignorance of some of you guys!

Doc,I never said that any system will "consistantly yield more and more money."I have wins and losses to,but with "control"and over only a few months.I severly limit my "win limits"even when i'm on a streak.If I start with 100 dollars and win 100,I quit for the evening.I speak the truth that I generally come ahead by approx a 1000 dollars by the end of the year.No more,no less.Have i done this every single year for the last 10 years?Almost,but not quite.2 years in a row I lost about 600 dollars(I keep precise records)but the other 8 years yielded me between 1000-2000 average.I have no reason to "lie".John Patricks systems are indeed very good,but control and money management is just as important.He has about 4 or 5 tapes just on Craps alone.So 5 tapes and some of you guys think this is hogwash?Please,don't make ME laugh!
Doc,do not misunderstand me,I am not claming some kind of constant winning get rich system,but a system that will edge out players most of the time that simply plug down chips on their birthdate numbers!Its not hard to understand what I am saying here about profits and playing action # systems,hitting,then leaving the casino with small profits and no greed.

Maybe I should start making and selling tapes about my system for craps. Probably a money making venture, if I could just find enough suckers to buy them. Of course, at some point early on, I probably should try to figure out just what my "system" actually is.

Congratulations, corvette, on your positive outcomes over the past decade. I hope you do not take offense if I attribute the results more to positive variance in your sample set rather than inherent advantages for whatever system you use. That's certainly how I view my own money-winning experience, in spite of the various "techniques" of rolling, wagering, and bankroll management that I might employ. In 2009, I was in the positive until a very negative period on a cruise ship in November. (That's negative in terms of net winnings; the entertainment was still great.) I did not keep detailed records before 2009, just assuming that I have to be a long-term losing bettor because of the games I choose to play.

I could make 5 tapes on brain surgery. Doesn't mean I'd be any good at it.

I've read John Patrick Craps and used it. I've also read some of his Roulette "tips".

It's noise. Entertaining noise, and you write just like him. I have no doubt that some people following his method can churn a small profit. It'll just be a small percentage of people who try it. I also like the way that Mr Patrick always always blames the personality and temperament of the player for losing. it reminds of reading The Gambler by Dostoevsky.

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Its obvious that when you are playing 22 numbers out of 38 numbers for every spin,your chances are very good,but the pay off is small and a grind.Impossible?Wow,I never heard such ignorance.

The house edge in double 0 roulette is 5.26%. It doesn't matter if you play 1 number, 22 numbers, or 37 numbers. There are 38 numbers on the board, and the house pays wins at 35:1.

Your 22 number system will win on 57.9% of spins. On those spins, you'll win 35 on the winning number and lose 21 on the numbers that didn't win. Your net win will be 14. You'll lose 42.1% of the time. When you lose, you'll lose 22 units. .421*22>.579*14. So your expected loss is greater than your expected win. How do you expect this to make you money over time?

Do I really have to go buy your book in order to "discover the secret of this winning system?"

Ahhh...I see then you agree with me cesspit?Right?Obviously you read John Patricks books as well as you read my posts...like a blind man!I SAID that my profits are small and churn or make small profits.And over months that small profit adds up!See blind man?I never said anything about a great system that can make me rich.So don't try to downplay my words or put words in my mouth.You do poorly at that just like your gambling,i'm sure.
And John Patrick is correct..you have already shown that players will not try things they refuse to believe in and you admitted it...only a small percentage try these things.Thats because roulette is an intimidating game for many and players like you with the personality that you possess will never succeed like me,and obviously no "discipline and patience"in charting tables and money management and probably play with no system at all....winning big at times on a straight up number and losing the next 5 times over the course of a year,bringing you down in the red.You have no patience for one.Did you purchase the tapes rather than the book?No,of course not!You can see live,how some of these systems can churn out a small profit..or larger depending upon your bankroll.Mine is small,but if I had 1000 dollar session money instead of 100 to 200 dollars,i'm sure I would be churning out alot more.
Casino's love players like you cesspit,keep up the good work and help pay their taxes.

"I could make 5 tapes on brain surgery.Dosen't mean i'd be good at it"

But it could also mean that John IS GOOD at it,right?

So,enough of YOUR nonsence cesspit!I met John many times at Harrahs in Alantic City and watched him play.More than once,they closed the table down on him after he was up 40-50 grand.I watched him play his systems not only in Roulette,but Craps and other games.His house in NJ was paid for with gambling wins.So all entertaining noise you say cesspit?
Oh,with a name like cesspit,i'm sure you know for sure... what I and Patrick says is all hot air and noise!?Right?
It is guys/players like you that Patrick is talking about.Don't make me laugh!

Again your math is wrong.I never got into the detail of Johns system.There is no number that I am playing that pays more than 8:1(except the safety bet of either 0 or 00).In addition,I am playing on a single zero green table,not a double green 00 table!There is no net of 14 dollars..where did you go to school?I'm playing 6 number line bets and a square with an occassional 1 chip safety bet on green zero.
For example: if I place 3 one dollar chips on the line between 1/4,i'm playing 6 numbers at a payoff of 5:1.I repeat this with 3 chips on 10/13 line playing all 6 numbers and 3 chips on the line of 28/31.Then 2 chips on the square 17,18,20,21 which pays 8:1.Safety bet on zero,straight up,but not all the time.On a double zero table the single chip would go as a split between 0-00.This is all done for EACH spin of the ball,I repeat,each spin.After a few wins I add a chip or two to either all the chips or the line bets(double streets,sometimes skipping 1/5 line.)

So,NOW do the math!
3+3+3 chips on the 3 line bets =9 dollars+ 2 chips on the square bet=11 dollars total bet on that spin.
Say #2 came in.That will pay me 3x5 or 15 dollars.Subtract the losses....-8 dollars for a small profit of 7 dollars,or 6 dollars if I made a safety bet on that spin.
Not much,but that is just the beginning.If 17 came in that would pay 8:1,so then the profit would be:
2 chips x 8=16 dollars.Then minus the other chips....9 dollars for a profit of 7 dollars.
If zero comes in(on my safety bet) its 35:1 so its 35 dollars won minus 11 dollars on the 3 streets and square with 2 chips.....
or a profit of 24 dollars.If it is a double 00 table and 00 came in with my safety bet the profit would be:17 dollars minus 11 dollars on the other bets or 6 dollars profit.
After 3 wins,i'll add a chip to the streets and maybe the square,but only when i'm on a roll.
A few of those and i'm up 100-150 in no time..then its time to quit,atleast for that session.
And playing 22 numbers(23 numbers with the safety bet) out of 38 possibilities with the way the chips are spread across the wheel makes it one of the best system bets (for small but more consistant profits) on the roulette table!

That house edge you speak of is true(its called the vigor),but the house edge is reduced with this system substancially,especially since the edge is NOT 5.26 on the table at Harrahs in Alantic City which has a single zero green....its about one half that.But even on 00 tables this system is fairly good.On a roll if you combine the action number system with a double dozen bet,you can rack up some profit pretty quickly,as long as you quit after 9 or 10 spins!So not only is your math all screwed up rdw4...its obvious you need roulette/systems training...but i'm expensive...you couldn't afford it!