diggitydust
Posted by diggitydust
Aug 22, 2010

The 10 count in blackjack. Does it work?

I am a fairly new card counter and found a man online saying that the Hi Lo count is not accurate and that the 10 count is the way to go. In the 10 count you count the 10s as -2 and the aces separate and everything else (2-9) is a +1. He says this is the way the original author of beat the dealer released in 1962 says is the winning method. Apparantly another book was published after that stating the Hi Lo system (counting the 7,8,9s as 0 and so on) is the way to go. Then the new author admitted he made a mistake in that Hi Lo system in which there were too many 7,8,9s he didnt take into account which then goes back to the 10 count being the best. I hope Im not being too confusing here I just want to know if anyone has had luck using the 10 count. Thanks!

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benbakdoff
benbakdoff Aug 22, 2010

If you are referring to Ed Thorp's 10 count forget it. I'm not sure if you are however because the values are different than the ones you give.



I believe Thorp morphed his own 10 count into the Hi-Lo, so try that instead.

Wizard
Wizard Aug 23, 2010

First, this would be more appropriate as a forum post, not a blog entry.



Second, you're referring to what I call the "insurance count." You start a running count at -4*(number of decks), and it gets above zero, then insurance is a good bet. No need to do a true count conversion. At exactly zero, insurance is break even. I haven't studied it, but I have never heard of serious counters using it. The betting and playing efficiency I think would be low.



For card counting questions, I recommend blackjackincolor.com/.