Gialmere
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March 24th, 2019 at 2:34:04 AM permalink
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I live in Pittsburgh. If I want to eat at any of the options in the city I have to pay to park. There are no free options at all.


Quote: DRich

People seem to forget that it is normal to pay to park in most big cities. I paid $50 recently to park in Atlanta for dinner.


You guys make a good point. Most cities do charge for parking. (The prices to park in San Francisco are practically crimes against humanity.) But there's the rub; Vegas isn't most cities, nor is it the city that's doing the charging. As one of the locals in the story says, he can afford to pay but won't out of principle.

I suppose it's really a matter of perspective. If you grow up in a town that's been charging for parking since the invention of the automobile you tend to see it as a simple fact of life. If, on the other hand, you grow up in a place with free parking, no resort fees, inexpensive meals and so on, only to see the corporate suits suddenly show up and start raising prices with one hand while lowering pay tables with the other, you tend to be resentful. Native Hawaiians, for example, are pretty resentful about what happened to their islands.

Would you pay $50 dollars for parking to eat at a restaurant you know is overpriced and serves crappy food? How about at a casino that offers 6/5 blackjack, 7/5 job vp and 000 roulette? A tourist might, but a local?
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March 24th, 2019 at 6:28:28 AM permalink
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You guys make a good point. Most cities do charge for parking. (The prices to park in San Francisco are practically crimes against humanity.) But there's the rub; Vegas isn't most cities, nor is it the city that's doing the charging. As one of the locals in the story says, he can afford to pay but won't out of principle.

I suppose it's really a matter of perspective. If you grow up in a town that's been charging for parking since the invention of the automobile you tend to see it as a simple fact of life. If, on the other hand, you grow up in a place with free parking, no resort fees, inexpensive meals and so on, only to see the corporate suits suddenly show up and start raising prices with one hand while lowering pay tables with the other, you tend to be resentful. Native Hawaiians, for example, are pretty resentful about what happened to their islands.

Would you pay $50 dollars for parking to eat at a restaurant you know is overpriced and serves crappy food? How about at a casino that offers 6/5 blackjack, 7/5 job vp and 000 roulette? A tourist might, but a local?



Dont get me wrong I hate paying to park. Recently stayed at a hotel that I booked on hotels.com. i got there and had to pay $40 to valet. It was either that or park at a meter and feed it every 4 hours. Would have only cost $20 for 24 hours but would have had to keep going out.

And yes parking fees locally do prevent me from going to the downtown restaurants. For xmas I was going to take my employees to a place in the city but elected to go somewhere else because I wasnt going to pay $80 for everyone to park.

Btw, parking fee or not why would you want to go for overpriced food and bad gambling parking fee or not?
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March 24th, 2019 at 6:30:08 AM permalink
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People seem to forget that it is normal to pay to park in most big cities. I paid $50 recently to park in Atlanta for dinner.



50 I would never do. Whenever we go to a pirate or steeler game I park across town and take the subway in. $5 to park and $3 for the subway instead of $60 for close parking
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May 21st, 2019 at 5:43:59 PM permalink
Hotel booking sites on the internet such as booking.com do a lot of business booking Vegas hotels
These sites hate resort fees. They believe its a way for hotels to shortchange them on the commission
Booking.com is informing hotels they will now include resort fees in calculating their commission.

Some states, resort fees are illegal. That's the way it should be. Its false advertising regarding the cost of a room.
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July 26th, 2019 at 7:48:51 AM permalink
Based on the "gambling News" thread, I understand the Attorney General of Indiana intends to or has already filed against hotels that have resort fees".

I realize there are revenue issues as well as revenue sharing issues, prompt disclosure versus immediate disclosure, first page versus totally unlocatable, etc.I understand that some accounants realize taxes apply to room rental rates but not necessarily resort fee revenue. Some hotels feel forced by competitive pressures and some make a pont of resisting dishonest or misleading quotes.

I find its hard enough to find a hotel website amidst all the firms advertising discount rooms at that hotel.

It is high time we had standardized quotation rules.
Gialmere
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September 29th, 2019 at 2:15:53 AM permalink
A new bipartisan bill called the "Hotel Advertising Transparency Act of 2019" has been introduced in the House that will once again take on resort fees. Will it succeed where the 2016 legislation failed? There's certainly greater anger (and lawsuits) over the matter nowadays.

So someday it's gonna be a law, at least I hope and pray that it will, but today it is still, just a bill.

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September 29th, 2019 at 4:48:28 AM permalink
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A new bipartisan bill called the "Hotel Advertising Transparency Act of 2019" has been introduced in the House that will once again take on resort fees. Will it succeed where the 2016 legislation failed? There's certainly greater anger (and lawsuits) over the matter nowadays.

So someday it's gonna be a law, at least I hope and pray that it will, but today it is still, just a bill.

Full story at TPG



Without being too political I am certain that this bill will pass with the signature of the president.

After all, he has no vested interest in gouging fees collected by hotels. He doesnt own any!!!!!

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DRich
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September 29th, 2019 at 9:15:06 AM permalink
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It is high time we had standardized quotation rules.



Absolutely. We did it for airlines, why shouldn't hotels be next?
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September 29th, 2019 at 10:00:48 AM permalink
Itís just a bill. Itís just only a bill. And if they vote for it on Capitol Hillówell then itís off to the White House where it waits in a line with a lot of other bills for the President to sign. And if he signs it then itíll be a LAW! Oh how we hope and pray that he will, but today it is still just a bill.
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September 29th, 2019 at 10:52:25 AM permalink
Sadly resort fees seem to be in the rise in states where legal. Many hotels and motels charge resort fees or amenities fees or some such variation.

I don't have a huge problem with them as long as they are clearly stated up front and reasonable (10-15 dollars a night is reasonable if there are actually amenities that do not require additional charges). I do agree that hotels where the fee is higher than the room and they are clearly used to artificially lower the sticker price on booking sites is problematic (those examples where the room is only 30USD, but the fees are 30-50 USD a night).

I honestly think Booking sites will probably do more to fight fees than the goverment, because as they get cheated out of commission by major brands, they will more vigorously push back... Of course customers can push back to by writing letters to managers and their host to make their views heard, and by ultimately mot staying places with unreasonably disproportionate fees.
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