gordonm888
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July 17th, 2019 at 6:19:33 PM permalink
Quote: FCBLComish

Not true. I do not dislike anyone here, since I have only met a few of you. I am concerned.

Gordon, who said I did not report it also?



No one. I wasn't mad at you or criticizing you when I posted my reply to you. We just had had some (other) people on this thread saying the Administrators on this site were pathetic for not acting against ZK. You stated (very articulately) that you judged that ZK was a potential danger, so I was just trying to reinforce the point that people should report things themselves.
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Romes
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July 17th, 2019 at 8:05:05 PM permalink
Quote: FTB

As some of you are aware: we had, yet again, another ZQ rant recently ("OFFICIALLY HAD IT" posted July 6, 2019). And, yet again, just another slap on the wrist (suspension).

When is enough truly enough?

Why another suspension instead of the nuclear option after all the warnings and suspensions?

I have said it before and I will say it again: the moderation on this forum is an absolute joke. Except this time, no one should be laughing when threats are being made by someone who, based on their posts and by that someone's own accounts of their actions (or inaction, as it were) is either mentally disturbed, delusional, or has some other form of mental defect that can lead to a tragedy.

Seriously, how many times is ZQ going to be allowed to insult members, use profanity and now, the most worrisome of all, make terroristic threats against casinos ZQ's already said will be sued into oblivion by ZQ while stating the city itself will regret messing with ZQ?

Inexpicably, Michael Shackleford's reply on occasion has been something to the effect of, Don't do that again but hey, you have the digits, call me if you need to talk, buddy, I'm here for you! That's borderline ridiculous and is not the proper way to address this egregious behavior.

All we need is for ZQ's ongoing rhetoric and obvious anger issues to turn into another shooting in Vegas because someone on this message forum in a position to do so isn't nuking this narcissistic and possibly dangerous forum member instead of suspending for the upteenth time.

Kentra's Korner was finally closed down and that was long overdue (better late than never). And that former member did not post if s/he had an M16, s/he swears on their life s/he would light up every joint in Vegas! (Yes, that is what ZQ disturbingly posted.) Blowing off steam or trolling for attention is one thing; making threats is another.

Don't make the same mistake twice by delaying the inevitable nuke: ZQ should not be allowed to post anymore, period; report all the posts to the proper authorities accordingly; and be done with this nonsense once and for all. A 90 day suspension accomplishes nothing .

I disagree with almost everything in this post.

1) Regardless of how many times a person falls in to the hole, refusing to put your hand out and help them out makes you just as clumsy, if not worse. I think it's fairly obvious ZK has been in a very dark space and I commend Mike for being willing to be a TRUE FRIEND to someone he probably doesn't actually know "all that well." It should really be a testament to the type of person Mike is for STILL being willing to do this, and yet you're here trying to bash him like that's some kind of a joke? Helping someone with a mental issue is some kind of joke? Get off your high horse.

2) If you put it to a forum vote (which I'm not saying we should actually do, just making a point) I would bet the majority vote to reinstate ZK, over and over. Why? Because his "normal" rants can be entertaining to the masses of the forum. He drives clicks and site views. It's how I view Connor McGreggor. I don't think he's one of the best of all time by a LONG SHOT, but the guy put asses in seats and got the PPV buys. So then he got his microphone and audience and he did his thing. While I do agree a different type of line was crossed in this past rant, and I'm not stating one way or another what I think should happen, I think it's again pretty high horse of you to sit and judge the mods of this site that VOLUNTEER to put hours and hours of their lives in day in and out.

As many mods and others have said before... If you don't like the posting/content here, there's the door.
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michael99000
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July 17th, 2019 at 8:18:01 PM permalink
Quote: Romes

Quote: FTB

As some of you are aware: we had, yet again, another ZQ rant recently ("OFFICIALLY HAD IT" posted July 6, 2019). And, yet again, just another slap on the wrist (suspension).

When is enough truly enough?

Why another suspension instead of the nuclear option after all the warnings and suspensions?

I have said it before and I will say it again: the moderation on this forum is an absolute joke. Except this time, no one should be laughing when threats are being made by someone who, based on their posts and by that someone's own accounts of their actions (or inaction, as it were) is either mentally disturbed, delusional, or has some other form of mental defect that can lead to a tragedy.

Seriously, how many times is ZQ going to be allowed to insult members, use profanity and now, the most worrisome of all, make terroristic threats against casinos ZQ's already said will be sued into oblivion by ZQ while stating the city itself will regret messing with ZQ?

Inexpicably, Michael Shackleford's reply on occasion has been something to the effect of, Don't do that again but hey, you have the digits, call me if you need to talk, buddy, I'm here for you! That's borderline ridiculous and is not the proper way to address this egregious behavior.

All we need is for ZQ's ongoing rhetoric and obvious anger issues to turn into another shooting in Vegas because someone on this message forum in a position to do so isn't nuking this narcissistic and possibly dangerous forum member instead of suspending for the upteenth time.

Kentra's Korner was finally closed down and that was long overdue (better late than never). And that former member did not post if s/he had an M16, s/he swears on their life s/he would light up every joint in Vegas! (Yes, that is what ZQ disturbingly posted.) Blowing off steam or trolling for attention is one thing; making threats is another.

Don't make the same mistake twice by delaying the inevitable nuke: ZQ should not be allowed to post anymore, period; report all the posts to the proper authorities accordingly; and be done with this nonsense once and for all. A 90 day suspension accomplishes nothing .

I disagree with almost everything in this post.

1) Regardless of how many times a person falls in to the hole, refusing to put your hand out and help them out makes you just as clumsy, if not worse. I think it's fairly obvious ZK has been in a very dark space and I commend Mike for being willing to be a TRUE FRIEND to someone he probably doesn't actually know "all that well." It should really be a testament to the type of person Mike is for STILL being willing to do this, and yet you're here trying to bash him like that's some kind of a joke? Helping someone with a mental issue is some kind of joke? Get off your high horse.

2) If you put it to a forum vote (which I'm not saying we should actually do, just making a point) I would bet the majority vote to reinstate ZK, over and over. Why? Because his "normal" rants can be entertaining to the masses of the forum. He drives clicks and site views. It's how I view Connor McGreggor. I don't think he's one of the best of all time by a LONG SHOT, but the guy put asses in seats and got the PPV buys. So then he got his microphone and audience and he did his thing. While I do agree a different type of line was crossed in this past rant, and I'm not stating one way or another what I think should happen, I think it's again pretty high horse of you to sit and judge the mods of this site that VOLUNTEER to put hours and hours of their lives in day in and out.

As many mods and others have said before... If you don't like the posting/content here, there's the door.



Thatís interesting.

You claim that the tirades and rants are a cry for help and that people should reach out a hand to do so..

And then claim itís ok to leave him on the forum and use those cries for help as our own personal entertainment.

The bottom line is, weíve seen one after another rant post full of insults and foul language. Followed by a suspension. Followed by some lame b.s. apology. Followed eventually by the same exact cycle again. 6 or 7 times now. Why should this be allowed to continue ?

We all know the story. Heís losing at card counting, but heís proficient enough at Donkey Kong tournaments to stay afloat financially . Heís got a $7500 car, no debt, and does not use an alarm clock.. the barometers we all use to measure success in life.. Itís not entertaining at all. The only value it might all hold is to push potential card counters away from that career , as they may see that this sad state is what their future holds also.
AxelWolf
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July 17th, 2019 at 8:20:20 PM permalink
Edit..

While I'm here.

LS = Nathan and more proof has been reviled. So all you people who harassed me over it.. SaD!!
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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July 17th, 2019 at 8:23:22 PM permalink
Quote: Rigondeaux

You can tell who the real APs are. Max EV is clearly to stay on ZK's good side.

Now that's some funny $h*t.
I was actually going to say, at least I probably won't get shot. I didn't think it was kewl to say that at the time.
No doubt you relate to his character in Con Air.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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July 17th, 2019 at 8:34:09 PM permalink
Quote: michael99000

Quote: Romes

Quote: FTB

As some of you are aware: we had, yet again, another ZQ rant recently ("OFFICIALLY HAD IT" posted July 6, 2019). And, yet again, just another slap on the wrist (suspension).

When is enough truly enough?

Why another suspension instead of the nuclear option after all the warnings and suspensions?

I have said it before and I will say it again: the moderation on this forum is an absolute joke. Except this time, no one should be laughing when threats are being made by someone who, based on their posts and by that someone's own accounts of their actions (or inaction, as it were) is either mentally disturbed, delusional, or has some other form of mental defect that can lead to a tragedy.

Seriously, how many times is ZQ going to be allowed to insult members, use profanity and now, the most worrisome of all, make terroristic threats against casinos ZQ's already said will be sued into oblivion by ZQ while stating the city itself will regret messing with ZQ?

Inexpicably, Michael Shackleford's reply on occasion has been something to the effect of, Don't do that again but hey, you have the digits, call me if you need to talk, buddy, I'm here for you! That's borderline ridiculous and is not the proper way to address this egregious behavior.

All we need is for ZQ's ongoing rhetoric and obvious anger issues to turn into another shooting in Vegas because someone on this message forum in a position to do so isn't nuking this narcissistic and possibly dangerous forum member instead of suspending for the upteenth time.

Kentra's Korner was finally closed down and that was long overdue (better late than never). And that former member did not post if s/he had an M16, s/he swears on their life s/he would light up every joint in Vegas! (Yes, that is what ZQ disturbingly posted.) Blowing off steam or trolling for attention is one thing; making threats is another.

Don't make the same mistake twice by delaying the inevitable nuke: ZQ should not be allowed to post anymore, period; report all the posts to the proper authorities accordingly; and be done with this nonsense once and for all. A 90 day suspension accomplishes nothing .

I disagree with almost everything in this post.

1) Regardless of how many times a person falls in to the hole, refusing to put your hand out and help them out makes you just as clumsy, if not worse. I think it's fairly obvious ZK has been in a very dark space and I commend Mike for being willing to be a TRUE FRIEND to someone he probably doesn't actually know "all that well." It should really be a testament to the type of person Mike is for STILL being willing to do this, and yet you're here trying to bash him like that's some kind of a joke? Helping someone with a mental issue is some kind of joke? Get off your high horse.

2) If you put it to a forum vote (which I'm not saying we should actually do, just making a point) I would bet the majority vote to reinstate ZK, over and over. Why? Because his "normal" rants can be entertaining to the masses of the forum. He drives clicks and site views. It's how I view Connor McGreggor. I don't think he's one of the best of all time by a LONG SHOT, but the guy put asses in seats and got the PPV buys. So then he got his microphone and audience and he did his thing. While I do agree a different type of line was crossed in this past rant, and I'm not stating one way or another what I think should happen, I think it's again pretty high horse of you to sit and judge the mods of this site that VOLUNTEER to put hours and hours of their lives in day in and out.

As many mods and others have said before... If you don't like the posting/content here, there's the door.



Thatís interesting.

You claim that the tirades and rants are a cry for help and that people should reach out a hand to do so..

And then claim itís ok to leave him on the forum and use those cries for help as our own personal entertainment.

The bottom line is, weíve seen one after another rant post full of insults and foul language. Followed by a suspension. Followed by some lame b.s. apology. Followed eventually by the same exact cycle again. 6 or 7 times now. Why should this be allowed to continue ?

We all know the story. Heís losing at card counting, but heís proficient enough at Donkey Kong tournaments to stay afloat financially . Heís got a $7500 car, no debt, and does not use an alarm clock.. the barometers we all use to measure success in life.. Itís not entertaining at all. The only value it might all hold is to push potential card counters away from that career , as they may see that this sad state is what their future holds also.

TLDR.

ZK has my number and I talked to him soon after. He can call and vent anytime he wants to, night or day. If he just wants to go hang out or something that's cool with me.(no homo stuff obviously, I'll give him your number to handle that discussion (-; )

He seemed fine, and said he truly regretted his post.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
rxwine
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July 17th, 2019 at 8:58:10 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

ZK has my number and I talked to him soon after. He can call and vent anytime he wants to, night or day. If he just wants to go hang out or something that's cool with me.(no homo stuff obviously, I'll give him your number to handle that discussion (-; )

He seemed fine, and said he truly regretted his post.



Wait a minute, are one of you really ZK? Is he a real person? Now I'm starting to get suspicious.
Quasimodo? Does that name ring a bell?
rawtuff
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July 17th, 2019 at 10:31:36 PM permalink
Quote: kubikulann


Because in our civilized countries, no simple citizen owns or can acquire guns!



That's not quite true though. Simple citizens can and do acquire guns in Europe, just not fully automatic guns.
Yes, the procedures are far more strict than in the US, but what's most important for me is the mindset.
In Europe there is not nearly as much... pride and machosness to own/operate a gun. It's seen as a burden and a potential accident waiting to happen.
And yeah, someone threatens to blow up everyone cause he is frustrated about gambling? Shrug is even too big of a recognition in a European forum, it'll be mostly "ah, another kid acting tough keyboard warrior, we should demand ID proof for under aged members to be able to lock em in the kindergarten section".
Romes
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July 17th, 2019 at 10:44:52 PM permalink
Quote: michael99000

...You claim that the tirades and rants are a cry for help and that people should reach out a hand to do so..

And then claim itís ok to leave him on the forum and use those cries for help as our own personal entertainment...

Figures never lie, but liars sometimes figure. If you reread what I wrote I said "I'm not commenting on what should happen." Pretty sure that doesn't mean I'm saying anything either way, but thanks for the words in my mouth?

Quote: rxwine

Wait a minute, are one of you really ZK? Is he a real person? Now I'm starting to get suspicious.

A lot of us have actually met ZK irl though... so no more conspiracy theories today I'm afraid =D.
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July 18th, 2019 at 3:20:40 AM permalink
Quote: rxwine

Wait a minute, are one of you really ZK? Is he a real person? Now I'm starting to get suspicious.

I have no idea what you are talking about, if you haven't been paying attention I don't know what to say.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪

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