EvenBob
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April 8th, 2012 at 4:25:33 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

The Constitution was sworn before Satan?



Hey, Satan means nothing to me, he's a Christian
invention. Or Jewish, and Jesus was Jewish.
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April 8th, 2012 at 4:35:16 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Hey, Satan means nothing to me, he's a Christian
invention. Or Jewish, and Jesus was Jewish.


I like the Jewish description of Satan: a good angel working for God who tempts people for the purpose of reporting back to God who succumbed to what temptation(s).

I know you're an atheist Bob, but as far as religions go, I'm sure even you would agree that the Jewish Satan is a little more down-to-earth sounding than some freaky-ass red-horned winged creature that plays records backwards and makes people vomit pea soup.
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April 8th, 2012 at 4:43:50 PM permalink
Quote: progrocker

I'm pretty sure more Christians than atheists believe in Satan. It can be argued that Satan is just as important as the Trinity components in comprising the Christian mythos, so to answer your question...yeah.



I'm fairly sure none of the founders were followers of Satan. I will concede that Judeo-Christianity seems to "personalize" evil with an individual more than any other religion I know of.

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In any case, the founding fathers tried to set up the government to allow both religions.



The founders were a Christian group. At the founding well over 90% of the nation was some form of protestant with a few % Catholics and about 1% Jewish.

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Also, I don't know if Easter really fits the definition of a national holiday...it's always on a Sunday so most government services and postal delivery are closed anyways. Good Friday is a bank holiday. http://www.opm.gov/operating_status_schedules/fedhol/2012.asp



I would agree it is no national holiday. Good Friday seems to vary. I have worked at exactly one place where it was a holiday, and that was a Jewish-owned business of all things. The banks were I worked were open (though the Federal Reserve might have been closed.) It is NOT a day of obligation for Catholics, the service then is purely optional. Before my time, many small shops closed between 12-3 that day and as a kid we were told we were not supposed to have the TV or radio on.
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April 8th, 2012 at 4:48:06 PM permalink
Quote: JB

I'm sure even you would agree that the Jewish Satan is a little more down-to-earth sounding



But not nearly as interesting in the movies.
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April 8th, 2012 at 4:50:01 PM permalink
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But not nearly as interesting in the movies.


True.
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April 8th, 2012 at 5:18:05 PM permalink
Thanks, Father. I appreciate your gesture. My easter was great. Keep doing this blessed job.
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April 8th, 2012 at 5:38:40 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

The founders were a Christian group. At the founding well over 90% of the nation was some form of protestant with a few % Catholics and about 1% Jewish.


Deism, which many founders subscribed to, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deism#Deism_in_the_United_States) may socially follow the Judeo-Christian ethos, but is more akin to Unitarian Universalism, which is definitely not Christianity and is denounced by many Christian groups today.

Even so, I'll grant that many founders were traditional protestant Christian...however they were still wise enough to know that religion should be left out of government, even making sure it was explicitly stated in the Bill of Rights as so...they had seen what the protestant/Catholic divide had done to Europe. That's why the Church of Satan has just as much right to be here as any other religion. The one Christian holiday that is a national holiday as well has secular connotations and pagan origins, so I'm fine with it.

I called Good Friday a bank holiday because the NYSE is traditionally closed, so that means I don't work on it. I did not know that some banks stay open...other than my bank which is open everyday except Thanksgiving and Christmas anyways.
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