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January 3rd, 2014 at 6:49:57 PM permalink
I don't know what crapless means, actually; I thought it was some kind of in-joke. I would be up for a session of learning with people who enjoy craps; I suck at it, so if they don't let me pass the dice, I recommend the Don't if I'm throwing.
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January 3rd, 2014 at 7:10:47 PM permalink
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I recommend the Don't if I'm throwing.


I generally make the same suggestion to others at the tables when I play. Does your trip mean that you won't be in FL and on the Victory when I am sailing Mon. evening 1/13? (Maybe I misread/misremembered, but I thought that was now your home territory.)
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January 3rd, 2014 at 8:06:15 PM permalink
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I generally make the same suggestion to others at the tables when I play. Does your trip mean that you won't be in FL and on the Victory when I am sailing Mon. evening 1/13? (Maybe I misread/misremembered, but I thought that was now your home territory.)



It is my "territory", and I will be back by then. Would you like to meet up?
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January 3rd, 2014 at 8:52:45 PM permalink
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I don't know what crapless means, actually; I thought it was some kind of in-joke. I would be up for a session of learning with people who enjoy craps; I suck at it, so if they don't let me pass the dice, I recommend the Don't if I'm throwing.



Crapless Craps is a variant believed to have been invented by Bob Stupak of Stratosphere fame. I was drunk when I first encountered it. Normally on a Come Out Roll, 2, 3 and 12 are craps and are therefore losing results. In Crapless Craps, they are point numbers and the shooter keeps rolling until he makes his point again or he Sevens Out. Its a weird sensation to be at a Crapless Craps table and not realize it. Obviously the odds are all skewed by the 11 also being a point number.

I usually shoot "From the Don't, Hoping They Won't" despite some statements about You Are Betting Against Yourself, but this would be a Craps since I really don't enjoy Crapless Craps at all. Some feel the fire bet at Crapless Craps is different.

Note: You can ALWAYS pass the dice if you want to. For any reason or for no reason at all. They can't force you to toss them.
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January 4th, 2014 at 5:01:10 AM permalink
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It is my "territory", and I will be back by then. Would you like to meet up?


Of course! I'm almost always up for meeting a forum member.

My wife and I are making just a brief visit to Cocoa Beach, and we will be joining a friend for that Monday evening cruise. I'm the only one of the three willing to approach a craps table and actually put any chips down. My wife plays penny slots a little bit; don't know whether our friend (from Titusville) gambles at all.

I'm headed up to Harrah's Cherokee for the day today, but if you are interested in meeting, we should have plenty of time to work out any details, before or after your Biloxi trip.
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January 4th, 2014 at 6:48:27 AM permalink
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Some feel the fire bet at Crapless Craps is different.



That's the 2nd best part about playing crapless at the not so Grand: No fire bet! The best part is I naturally roll a lot of 3's and 11's. A waste at craps. Love the $75 payout on a $25 buy. ($1 vig up front)
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January 4th, 2014 at 6:54:50 AM permalink
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Ah, you're right; I was playing QQ the day after, the one I'm talking about was HyperBonus Poker.



Now the confusion is cleared up. :)

I've played a decent amount of bonus deuces wild since that is the best deuces game available in St. Louis (99.45% quarters). Unfortunately, the best I have hit on any form of quarter deuces is 5 Aces.

This includes last night when I chased a 101.25% progressive in Tunica playing double deuces wild ($2210 royal). The guy next to me was playing bonus deuces, one of the worst choices at the bar...My game was 98.86% w/o the prog; his was 96.21%. But he did hit Quint 3s, so he probably did better than me, meh.

And hyper bonus poker is for amusement only! The machine literally is programmed to NOT offer 99%+ payback!
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January 4th, 2014 at 1:35:13 PM permalink
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That's the 2nd best part about playing crapless at the not so Grand: No fire bet! The best part is I naturally roll a lot of 3's and 11's. A waste at craps. Love the $75 payout on a $25 buy. ($1 vig up front)


Wow. I have played craps at the Grand at least 6 or 7 times, and did not even realize they had a crapless table. And that is pretty hard to do, since I think they only have 3 tables in total. No wonder I can't win in there. I must be brain dead when I walk in.
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January 6th, 2014 at 3:21:14 AM permalink
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Heading there next week for a few days



Good chance I'll show up a couple of weeks after you're gone. Please post about "how it goes" and which place you liked.
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January 15th, 2014 at 11:12:56 AM permalink
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Good chance I'll show up a couple of weeks after you're gone. Please post about "how it goes" and which place you liked.



Ok, Biloxi trip report.

Biloxi is almost 600 miles from home for me, so 1 long drive or 2 shorter days. Took my mother along (she's exclusively low-roller VP), and does not like to drive my SUV, so I'm chauffeur. After planning to get away around 8 am, and the normal snafu's, we depart about 9:45. She's a good sport about road tripping, so we only made 2 fuel stops and 6 rest stops on the way. Mobile was a bit of a disaster; I-10 runs east-west, and in winter, the sun is directly on the road for sunset-sunrise. So our lateness put us through Mobile during rush hour and sunset simultaneously. I had warned Mom, but she still was unprepared for how really, really bad it is. 45 minutes of bumper-to-bumper with everyone blind; probably would have been worth getting off the road.

Biloxi is very unchanged since 2008, the last time I was there, except a couple of debris fields have finally been removed near US-90. The recovery, plus the economy tanked since late 2008, plus the BP oil spill ruined, I mean ruined, them until recently. The only new construction in the interim has been the Hard Rock, and reportedly once they decided to come in, it was only 2 months from groundbreaking to opening a 250 room hotel. The state used this fact to light a fire under CET (again reportedly) and they are now starting renovations of the Grand, which will be renamed Harrah's Gulf Coast in the near future.

The renovations will include the old casino site, which will is currently iron-rusted girders and slab concrete. They will be rebuilding a 2-story casino there, and probably hotel rooms over on the beach side of US-90. They will also be doing a complete renovation of their present building, including wrapping reception/checkin around the pool, redoing the restaurants, and all the rooms.

We gained an hour crossing time zones, so pulled in about 5:30 pm. Valet parking is free, right next to checkin, so we used that. We also used the bell service, which turned out to be a good thing, because our room was not ready for another hour. At checkin (where I used the $20 upgrade to get us a top-floor minisuite for 4 nights), they told us 20 minutes, and invited us to enjoy the lobby bar and grill while we waited. The lobby was quite drafty, due to unseasonable cold in the 20's, but the service was exceptional and the food was ridiculously good. (We found out a couple days later that it was the same kitchen as LB's Steakhouse but bar pricing, which explains a lot.) TR card gets you 10% off all food items. Entrees were sandwiches, burgers, salads, several appetizers, full bar. Huge portions, and as I said, incredibly good quality food. The grill was so not-busy that we were the only ones in there until just before we left.

Mom got chilled to the point of illness and could not stop shaking. The wait for the room after dinner was excruciating, because I needed her to get into a hot bath and get her core temperature back up. She claimed she'd never gotten that cold before and it gave us both a lot of concern. We finally got her upstairs and into the tub, then the bell came and we sorted that. I put our things away, and got sent downstairs to play; mom came down a bit later. The room was exceedingly clean, fresh thick linens, coffeemaker with single-serve packets, china and glass, slightly less fancy toiletries than before (no shoeshine kit, shower cap, or mouthwash, but still gilcrest and soames products). Room had a round marble table with 2 chairs, 2 queen beds, strange 4 drawer dresser, LCD TV about 32", room safe, double closet with ironing board/iron, 3 sets of good quality towels. Beautiful view of the Gulf, but broken construction in the forefront alongside an abandoned building.

Went down to the casino, which is along a semi-long corridor and up a ramp at security. Breezeway immediately adjacent to the normal pit; pit was closed for too cold next to door, but usually open because of close location for hotel guests. 16' craps table had fire bet, 3CP, 2 BJ, Mississippi Stud, and THE Bonus. Never played in that pit, but the last 2 nights we were there, the craps table was very busy, the rest of the pit had light to no action whenever I passed it. I think the craps was 3-4-5x odds.

More later.
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