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buzzpaff
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July 17th, 2011 at 2:52:55 PM permalink
Definition of the current tax code : How politicians reward their friends and punish their enemies !!
thecesspit
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July 17th, 2011 at 3:49:18 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Actually a base belief of most in the Tea Party is to repeal the right of congress to collect an income tax and replace that with a consumption tax. I'd be for this as long as the pols do not start handing out money to "make up" for the burden. Anything to get the bottom half of the country used to the idea they need to pay something and maybe then the next handout proposal we ask "how will this be paid for?"

The consumption tax could have an added benefit. The USA gets a lot of inflow of tourists, this would capture revenue from them. All the illegal aliens would start paying a fair share as well.



I assume sales taxes are state based, not federal?
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AZDuffman
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July 17th, 2011 at 4:04:33 PM permalink
Quote: thecesspit

I assume sales taxes are state based, not federal?



Correct. There are some federal "excise taxes" on gas and booze for example, but no federal "sales tax" or VAT.
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EvenBob
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July 17th, 2011 at 4:19:52 PM permalink
Quote: s2dbaker

I don't know why you're so hysterical.



My god, if Itscalledsoccer's well thought out and well delivered posts
sound like hysteria to you, what must real hysteria be like in your world?

This argument is as simple as explaining Santa Claus to a child. Up until
about the age of 5, you encourage them to believe in Santa, and when
they start school, you explain real life to them. Thats whats happening
with all the riots in Europe, they're being told Santa was a lie, they really
can't be provided for from cradle to grave, and they're reacting like typical
5 year olds. In the US, the Libs are in complete denial, Socialism doesn't
work, Big Sugar Daddy is broke. Its funny and scary to watch them, but
more scary than funny.
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buzzpaff
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July 17th, 2011 at 4:25:50 PM permalink
" It's impossible to have any discussion with someone who denies truth"

Is that an example of well thought out and delivered posts ??
EvenBob
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July 17th, 2011 at 4:34:16 PM permalink
Quote: buzzpaff

" It's impossible to have any discussion with someone who denies truth"

Is that an example of well thought out and delivered posts ??



Its certainly not hysteria. And it is impossible to talk to someone
who's in denial. The royalty in the Tuileries Palace in Paris continued
to party as their world crumbled around them, refusing to believe
France would ever revolt. Some of them were still in denial,
even as they heard the blade hurtling down towards their necks.
"It's not enough to succeed, your friends must fail." Gore Vidal
buzzpaff
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July 17th, 2011 at 4:36:13 PM permalink
Now who is being hysterical ? The sky is falling, the sky is falling !
ItsCalledSoccer
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July 17th, 2011 at 4:46:32 PM permalink
Quote: buzzpaff

" It's impossible to have any discussion with someone who denies truth"

Is that an example of well thought out and delivered posts ??



Well ... yeah. Truth is truth. If s2dbaker is denying truth, what's hysterical about saying he's denying truth?

If you think he's NOT denying truth, please share with us why you think that. Otherwise, don't fault me for speaking truth. If you think he's speaking un-truth and you say I'm "hysterical" for identifying it, aren't you, in reality, being hysterical (at best) and sinister (at worst)? Which am I to guess?
s2dbaker
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July 17th, 2011 at 4:46:56 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

My god, if Itscalledsoccer's well thought out and well delivered posts
sound like hysteria to you, what must real hysteria be like in your world?

I'm still trying to figure out which part of his post is well thought out. Is it the part where he denies that he's Kreskin? Perhaps the part where he invokes the US Constitution, conveniently omitting the part where the Executive Branch has veto power over the Legislative Branch? Perhaps it's the part where he states that he wants spending to stop but doesn't give any examples of what programs he wants eliminated and how much that would save?

Like I said before, I hope a Republican wins the White House in 2012 so that we can go back to ignoring the deficit.
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ItsCalledSoccer
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July 17th, 2011 at 4:49:17 PM permalink
Quote: s2dbaker

I don't know why you're so hysterical. I already stated that I want a Republican to win the White House in '12 so that Deficits go back to not mattering anymore. What more do you want?



Sticking with the theme that I've already anticipated such answers, and that I've already written the response to them, to wit ...

Quote: ItsCalledSoccer

People who won't answer a direct question will always obfuscate. Always.



That's a paraphrase because I couldn't find the quote. But it is an accurate paraphrase.

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