Nathan
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January 16th, 2018 at 2:02:18 AM permalink
Quote: Romes

I have a friend I just talked to the night before this happen send me a screenshot of the text they got. Apparently all the radio stations also played a message saying something similar. It must have been pure chaos. In situations like these, ESPECIALLY with the hind sight of knowing it was a false alarm, I always have two responses:

1) Put yourself in the situation and think about what that would have been like. That would have been pretty crazy and I can't fully imagine it, but in the light after knowing it was a false alarm, I hope some good still came out of it. I hope it forced people to look at their lives and reflect upon them if they're the type of lives they wanted to lead... if they were happy with their life where it was at. I think something like this, while I'd never advocate for it, can be pretty beneficial to helping people realize things about themselves. Perhaps some regretted not doing this or that, perhaps others realizes how important it is to tell their family they love them each and every single day, or perhaps it will literally change the course of some peoples lives to push towards their passions regardless of economic situation because they now realize that extra dollar or two don't matter as much as their happiness. We can't changed what happened, so in the wake of it I hope everyone that experienced it in any form (directly or by having friends/family/etc there) learned something about themselves/life.

2) Comedy. In any situation you must be able to look at it and laugh, and if I offend someone then I'm sorry but that's how I choose to look at life. You know there were people who told their bosses off and left work. You know there were people who started boning their neighbor or someone they've always thought was cute but never worked up the nerve to talk to. In situations like these hero's show their true colors, but really crappy idiot people always also do ridiculously stupid things, which in the aftermath of knowing it was a false alarm, probably looks pretty damn hilarious.

Employee: "Since we're all gonna die, I just wanna say I hate all of you and you're all going to die and f*#& this place!!!!!!!!!!"
(40 minutes later false alarm)
Employee: "Yeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaah, I was just kidding?"

...next job interview
Potential Employer: "So, why did you leave your last job?"
Employee: "... I'll see myself out."



Reminds me of the "Joke," that Family Guy Quahog news anchors did where they said an asteroid or nuclear missile was going to wipe out Quahog in about a day.

The next day they did a solemn countdown, saying something like,"We await our imminent demise." Peter's intended last words to his kids weren't something heartwarming like,"I love you guys," it was something horrifying and heartbreaking. Something like,"I really resent you guys!" And then there was the horror when it was revealed that the news anchor were just JOKING, causing the kids to celebrate for about 5 seconds that they weren't going to die until it was processed that Peter just told them he resented them and they were understandably hurt and gave him the cold shoulder and he tried hard to make it up to them.

There was also an episode of American Dad where the Smiths thought they were going to be hit with a nuclear missile or something like that but it was a false alarm not unlike what happened IRL a couple of days ago. The family were HAPPY , all except Francine who looked sad. Stan says something like"What's the matter, Francine? We're not going to die imminently! You should be happy!" Francine replies something like,"I'm glad we're not going to die imminently, but when I thought we were going to be killed by the nuclear missile, it made me realize I haven't really lived a fulfilling and meaningful life and haven't really done anything spectacular! " Stan tries to help her get a fulfilling job.
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FleaStiff
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January 16th, 2018 at 5:06:54 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

. SDI was space-based defense system under Reagan. Nobody is saying just what is currently circling to protect us.

SDI was largely a battle of press releases designed to lure the Russians into spending more than they could afford to spend. It appears to have worked. All those phases in the contracts kept real expenditures being deferred but huge numbers being quoted.
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January 16th, 2018 at 6:54:34 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

SDI was largely a battle of press releases designed to lure the Russians into spending more than they could afford to spend. It appears to have worked. All those phases in the contracts kept real expenditures being deferred but huge numbers being quoted.



Agreed. It was smoke and mirrors.

But it was also more than 30 years ago. Huge technological advances since.Trillions in black money. Dozens of launches of classified objects.

Who knows what's up there unless and until they're forced to use it?
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January 16th, 2018 at 7:24:44 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

But it was also more than 30 years ago. Huge technological advances since.Trillions in black money. Dozens of launches of classified objects.
Who knows what's up there unless and until they're forced to use it?

That is true and no one knows how subtle the use can be. An overt massive loss of satellites would be obvious but a subtle redirection or capture could be undetectable. All this rail gun stuff is beyond me.
Think what those Chinese gambling sites did with "live" game transmissions and microsecond delays, the UK cops needed counseling after visiting one crime scene. Now multiply the opportunities and shift it to antiquated military systems...boggles the mind. Think of a war being over before half the troops even know it has started.

Think of military phoning reports to headquarters with phone operators disconnecting the calls for non payment. It can be hard for changes to be made quickly.
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January 16th, 2018 at 7:36:38 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Who knows what's up there unless and until they're forced to use it?

Mass confusion. The more information, the harder to devise any good strategy.
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ncfatcat
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January 16th, 2018 at 8:05:54 AM permalink
Wouldn't a high altitude nuclear explosion cause a large EMP?
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January 16th, 2018 at 9:18:36 AM permalink
Quote: ncfatcat

Wouldn't a high altitude nuclear explosion cause a large EMP?

look upthread, you missed it. High altitude is what is wanted.

For it to be devastating, I'm sure it has to be a biggie, but NO-KO has hydrogen bombs now ...

you need an explosion that produces a lot of gamma radiation
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January 16th, 2018 at 9:52:17 AM permalink
North Korea's endgame is to build a significant nuclear force so that the decision of anyone to overtake them would result in destruction for their foe. For the US, their reticence to end the Il regime has been the massive conventional war it would spark with South Korea and bringing in China into a war. Once NK gets to a point where they are confident that the US can no longer bully it (which I think will happen when NK does a nuclear test on an ICBM) they will force trade sanctions lifted and become more prosperous through trade of weapons and whatever it is growing as well as receive humanitarian and medical aid from the West.

Ideally any positive regime change comes from within. NK is far from that. There are only two courses of actions - forced regime change (which is becoming very difficult). Sanctions when enforced do work, but the humanitarian cost to NK's citizens are extremely high.
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DRich
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January 16th, 2018 at 10:36:44 AM permalink
For those of you that didn't see it, 60 Minutes this week did a great segment on the N.K. nuclear program. I had no idea that N.K. was that far along.
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January 16th, 2018 at 10:47:53 AM permalink
Quote: DRich

For those of you that didn't see it, 60 Minutes this week did a great segment on the N.K. nuclear program. I had no idea that N.K. was that far along.



16 years of letting them do what they wanted under Bush and Obama allowed that to happen.

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