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AZDuffman
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July 1st, 2013 at 9:29:25 AM permalink
Quote: rxwine

You could probably outlaw arranged marriages and that would do a lot to curb polygamy without actually outlawing polygamy. Since it would only leave the people who wanted to go into it of their own free will.

Outlawing arranged, would take care of 'forced" as well. Might rile some groups or cultures though.



If the marriage license or court officer asks or is required to ask "is this of your own free will?" they area already illegal. I don not know if this is the case but I can say even as a notary public I am required to not place my seal if it appears someone is being coerced or is not of free/right mind.
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rxwine
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July 1st, 2013 at 9:34:39 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

If the marriage license or court officer asks or is required to ask "is this of your own free will?" they area already illegal. I don not know if this is the case but I can say even as a notary public I am required to not place my seal if it appears someone is being coerced or is not of free/right mind.



Well, I don't know how it works in that Colorado area where polygamy is practiced. There's the law, then there's what they're really doing there I suppose.

But even the local lawmen there are part of the culture.
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AZDuffman
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July 1st, 2013 at 9:57:41 AM permalink
Quote: rxwine

Well, I don't know how it works in that Colorado area where polygamy is practiced. There's the law, then there's what they're really doing there I suppose.

But even the local lawmen there are part of the culture.



When I was in AZ there was some sect near the AZ/NV border where they had to send an army of state troopers up because they were untouchable by the locals. AZ/NV were fighting to prosecute first. I forget how it ended up.
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July 1st, 2013 at 2:28:47 PM permalink
Quote: boymimbo

Every country's government participates in social engineering in one way or another. It encourages marriage by giving tax breaks. It encourages child rearing by giving parents' two years of Employment benefits. It creates all-day kindegarten. It passes laws against and for gambling, and so on and so forth. Social Darwinism? Absolutely. A bad thing? Sometimes.

Social engineering should come far down the list of priorities that starts with security, both internal and external. Until those are under some reasonable control, along with other critical areas like a fair and vibrant economy and a workable education system, influencing or regulating personal lives should be limited to problems that injure the subjects themselves or those around them.
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July 1st, 2013 at 3:02:28 PM permalink
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July 1st, 2013 at 3:12:37 PM permalink
Quote: terapined

Nobody on this board has called me terrible names.



Then what are you complaining about? I think it's possible you don't "get" the distinction this board makes between a personal insult and stating an otherwise non-personal insulting opinion.

Insult:
Your breath smells like raw sewage.

Opinion:
When I smell your breath I am reminded of raw sewage.

perhaps not the best examples, but hopefully you get the gist.

Quote: terapined


I have not called anybody terrible names on this board. I am not part of any team. I simply believe what I believe. If you want to call me a hypocrit because I support gay marraige and agains incest and Polygamy, so be it.



I didn't call you a hypocrite, I said the behavior you're engaging in is hypocritical. Perhaps you're not a hypocrite at all, but simply lack the insight to identify hypocritical behavior.

See what I did there? I did NOT say you were stupid.

Quote: terapined

If somebody else on this board has called you a bigot, then that person is wrong as an individual.



I don't think anyone has called me a bigot, I'm sort of the super anti-bigot because as I've stated numerous times: I want the same rights for everyone. To call me a bigot would be ridiculous and I'd laugh it off.

Quote: terapined


I am an individual, why do you think I am part of some team that approves you being called a bigot?



Sorry, will not engage or be a party to a fantasy version of reality. Good luck though.

Quote: terapined

We are all individuals on this board. If 2 people have the same views and one of those people usues terrible name calling, it does not mean the other person approves the name calling.



Really? Thanks for letting me in on that secret. For my money though when I see a group of individuals that all hold the same opinion (in this case one that is hypocritical) I feel it's fair to use a shortcut term like 'team' as naming all the individuals would be cumbersome and would not extend to those that also hold the belief but are too... um, cowardly (had another word in mind but I don't use vulgarity in print) to express them.

Furthermore, using your "I believe what I believe so therefore I believe it," logic, I believe you to be on that team that is in favor or gay marriage and opposed to some others having the same rights. This was gleaned from your own words, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
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July 1st, 2013 at 3:15:12 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146


I agree with the rule in Indiana, because I think sporting an erection (even clothed) around a minor amounts to gross sexual imposition and lewd conduct.



What if he's in a bar where minors aren't allowed? Also, you seem to be assuming that sexual arousal is synonymous with having an erection... there's a whole industry built on that not always being true. ;)

Quote: Mission146


I agree with the Wisconsin law because adultery and pre-marital sex should both be illegal. However, it is possible to also rape one's wife, so I hope there is some sort of addendum to the law that covers that.



Well, you're no fun. If one can't engage in a little recreational sexual violence what's this country coming to?
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July 1st, 2013 at 3:33:55 PM permalink
Quote: MonkeyMonkey



Quote: Mission146


I agree with the rule in Indiana, because I think sporting an erection (even clothed) around a minor amounts to gross sexual imposition and lewd conduct.


What if he's in a bar where minors aren't allowed? Also, you seem to be assuming that sexual arousal is synonymous with having an erection... there's a whole industry built on that not always being true. ;)



Quote: terapined (for accuracy, terrapined knows nothing about wisc law so I did not write the below. really. But for some reason Monkeymonkey thinks I am a wisc law expert. weird)


I agree with the Wisconsin law because adultery and pre-marital sex should both be illegal. However, it is possible to also rape one's wife, so I hope there is some sort of addendum to the law that covers that.


Well, you're no fun. If one can't engage in a little recreational sexual violence what's this country coming to?



Wow Monkeymonkey. very picky. Boy , I need to have all my ducks in a row to argue with you. Now you are quoting me as posting"I agree with the Wisconsin law because adultery and pre-marital sex should both be illegal. However, it is possible to also rape one's wife, so I hope there is some sort of addendum to the law that covers that." Seriously, where does this come from??? I understand your valid criticism of my weak posts (I do bong hits while typing, so sorry for the previous weak posts) but at least get it right. Why put words in my mouth, sorry, why put typed words in my mouth that never were never typed by my fingers. If you want to criticize my posts, you have every right to. My posts are weak and not well thought out but hey, the bong hits are tasty. I live in Florida, don't have the foggiest idea what the laws are in Wisconsin, nor do I care. How in the world can I post about Wisc law if I don't know Wisc law. (admitting lack of knowledge but its true). I am an expert in Lemon Kush, but that's a whole another subject. LOL
Its either a typo or somebody is monkeying up your posts :-) or you purposely did this but I doubt it. Hmm, maybe not. Seems like a bong hit would help YOU. Or maybe you are doing hits that's why your post above is FALSE. The lemon kush is killer isn't it. If you are partaking in the kush, all is forgiven.
I believe I just scored 1 point due to Monkeymonkey doing a poor quality control job on his posts. Get it together dude. Consider yourself corrected. Check, you asked to be corrected.
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July 1st, 2013 at 4:12:23 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

I agree with the rule in Indiana, because I think sporting an erection (even clothed) around a minor amounts to gross sexual imposition and lewd conduct.



So much for mens rea.

Quote: Mission146

I agree with the Wisconsin law because adultery and pre-marital sex should both be illegal.



...yeah, good luck with that, Angelo.
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July 1st, 2013 at 4:48:23 PM permalink
Quote: Nareed

The US Supreme Court pretty much struck down DOMA (the full name of that law is so nonsensical I won't repeat it).

So the poll is: how do you feel about it?

Of course when the headlines die down we'll get the full details. But this is a really, really, really good thing.



Lets hope they strick down the bilski thingtoo. That would be good news too !!
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