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dudestupid
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February 25th, 2011 at 7:54:54 PM permalink
When explaining the appeal of VP to people, I often say it's like playing Free Cell with free drinks.
Playing online with fake money isn't nearly as fun, but is mildly enjoyable. I play craps on my phone during boring meetings a lot. Blackjack on my phone seems less fun for some reason.

There's some nice video slots on roxypalace.com that are free.

But they aren't competing with Vegas in my mind, they are competing with Free Cell or Angry Birds.
Nareed
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February 25th, 2011 at 8:16:43 PM permalink
Quote: Mosca

Oh, I play free cell, spider, and hearts incessantly, and sometimes minesweeper.



Geez, no one implies anything anymore...

I've never gotten minesweeper.

Anyway, I don't reset the stats in free cell, but I don't pay them any attention. My brother wanted to transfer his when he first upgraded Windows :)
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JimMorrison
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February 25th, 2011 at 9:13:51 PM permalink
Playing with fake money doesn't pay the bills. I've never played freecell and haven't played minesweeper in years but I've been known to enjoy Angry Birds. Haven't figured out how to make money on it yet though...
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odiousgambit
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February 26th, 2011 at 4:22:09 AM permalink
As far as gaming goes, gambling with fake money is pretty lame. But I do it a lot anyway and do get some amount of enjoyment out of it from a pure gaming angle.
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February 26th, 2011 at 8:08:04 AM permalink
I only get a little satisfaction from fake-money gambling. The practice games at Bodog & other sites keep me amused for a little while, but then I get bored.

I do like the Wizard's VP trainer. i found it a few months back, and realized that my version of JOB basic strategy wasn't that close to real basic strategy. Since then I've had much better success. More winning sessions and lower loss amounts for losing sessions. So I've gotten value out of that fake money game.

I also enjoy playing fake money Texas Hold'Em via Zynga's game on Facebook. It's been a decent way to learn the game at no cost. But there is something missing as I know that even if I'm betting $500,000, it doesn't really matter if I win or lose. But if I'm in a live game and win a $50 pot, that excites me more since I can translate that into a tank of gas or dinner with the wife!
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P90
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February 27th, 2011 at 5:32:46 AM permalink
Depends on the game. If it's slots, I'll much better satisfy my curiosity with a fake-money game. I know all too well that slots are only there to suck your money to seriously contemplate winning. Most players hope to give Lady Luck a chance to bestow what's due upon them, but I know that if Lady Luck decided to smile on me, it would give me a bad beat jackpot, or an extra-hot shoe in blackjack with no heat.

Playing poker for imaginary money is only good for training. Blackjack, I know I can beat it, so real money adds that extra anticipation of win. Carnival games, variants, or as mentioned slots, fake money all the way.
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RonC
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February 27th, 2011 at 6:17:36 AM permalink
I do try out a few new being "ideas" when I do the "fake money" gambling but it really doesn't do much for me...

I did learn it to know the payouts a little better on the craps layout. The dealers at my local casino always seem confused about "off and on" payouts when I have most (or all) numbers covered with come/odds bets. I dissected the last trip and I am pretty sure even the box was telling the dealer the wrong payout on one of my numbers. I can only be "pretty sure" because it only happened on one roll, it wasn't obvious (off by a dollar or two) and I had been enjoying the cocktails for a few hours.

I've also used it to work my basic strategy for blackjack. I am not really good at memorizing those tables so I have switched to the Wizard's simple strategy for the most part. I have printed it out in a size my age-challenged eyes can see easily so that I don't have to hold the darned card two inches from my face and hold up the whole table.

Using fake money does not give me any more or less confidence in the results...it just helps me think out how I want to play in certain situations. If I hit the craps table with $100 and turn it into $200 pretty quick, I will be aggressive with the $100 I am ahead. If I am down, it shows me how being aggressive to catch up can really screw things up...

Fake is fake...not the same excitement. I'd rather have $1 in real action than a $1,000,000 in fake action. I know because I had $7,500,000 on the iPhone "Aw Craps" app and it just didn't do much for me...
SOOPOO
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February 27th, 2011 at 6:18:12 AM permalink
Quote: P90



Playing poker for imaginary money is only good for training.



I could not disagree more. When your opponents do not fear losing money, bluffing is different compared to a real game, and calling is different, too. I do play no money games for mindless entertainment. I was recently called by a player who missed his straight draw but just wanted to see my cards. He was just playing the board. This did not simulate a real money game. I would also surmise the frequency of 'all ins' is substantially higher in no money games than real games.
P90
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February 27th, 2011 at 6:41:07 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

I could not disagree more. When your opponents do not fear losing money, bluffing is different compared to a real game, and calling is different, too.


Oh, yes. This is one of the reasons it's good for some forms of training. LAG players can be some of the most annoying in real games.
You only have to avoid "booster" games, where noobs go all-in on any hand, reset the bankroll, and come back. Freerolls are a better venue. You still see tons of LAGs, but learn how to grab money from them without sweating, and that translates into the times you see one IRL.
Another good thing to practice with game money is multitabling. It's not as much about deep strategy as just developing reliable multiple table tracking.

But otherwise note I said "only good", not "good".
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